Quit or be fired? - page 5

I have been with the same company for 4 years and have NEVER called out b/c of snow/ice storms. This weekend my two kids ages 16 and 12 will have to be alone while I'm at work and its a pretty sure... Read More

  1. by   llg
    Quote from nursewendy2000
    I re-read your post. I'm sorry, I did misunderstand what you were saying and agree with your comments

    Thank you for being so gracious ... and so willing to go back and re-read my post. I know you are under terrible stress right now and that openness to reconsider what I had written once again demonstrates that you are a reasonable, responsible person willing to meet somebody half-way.

    I sincerely hope that this all works out in a way that is best for you and your family. You sound like a very conscientious employee and a great mother. The world needs more of both!

    Take care -- and let us know how it all works out.

    llg
  2. by   javanurse2000
    Just an update for you all...I called at 4am it had already started sleeting...its been going ever since. Anyway, when I called, the call-in nurse said whe was told not to accept any call-ins. I tol her I had already talked with the DON and Administrator the day before and just to write on the schedule that I am not coming in. The DON called me back and asked me what was going on and I told her I still wasn't able to find anyone for the kids...she said its not doing anything outside. I told her that it was at my house and they were still calling for the storm with potential for mass power outages and I was sorry but couldn't leave my kids with that. So, I was fired. I did remind her that I worked in every other ice/snowstorm in the past 4 years but I guess that didn't matter since she would be covering my shift...she said "don't plan on coming back". Thank you to everybody that shared your experiences an encouragement AND also to those with differing opinions for your honesty and sharing your perspective.
  3. by   tmiller027
    Quote from nursewendy2000
    Just an update for you all...I called at 4am it had already started sleeting...its been going ever since. Anyway, when I called, the call-in nurse said whe was told not to accept any call-ins. I tol her I had already talked with the DON and Administrator the day before and just to write on the schedule that I am not coming in. The DON called me back and asked me what was going on and I told her I still wasn't able to find anyone for the kids...she said its not doing anything outside. I told her that it was at my house and they were still calling for the storm with potential for mass power outages and I was sorry but couldn't leave my kids with that. So, I was fired. I did remind her that I worked in every other ice/snowstorm in the past 4 years but I guess that didn't matter since she would be covering my shift...she said "don't plan on coming back". Thank you to everybody that shared your experiences an encouragement AND also to those with differing opinions for your honesty and sharing your perspective.
    I"m sorry to hear about this Wendy. I still think you did the right thing.

    From some of your earlier posts about others getting fired so easily, it sounds like they're cleaning house, so it was probably a matter of time anyway. I've seen places do this before.

    To me, this choice was a no-brainer. You'll have several jobs in your life, but your family will always be there. They have to come first. If they don't understand that at your job, then too bad for them. Sounds like you were a great asset to them that they just tossed out like yesterdays garbage.

    Look at it this way, there's a nursing shortage! I doubt you'll have a hard time finding another job. I've seen nurses our LTC facility has fired for constant med errors, absences, lying on incident reports. ALL Of them end up getting another job within days. So don't worry about it. You'll probably be better off without this place anyway.
  4. by   Tweety
    I'm sorry to hear that you got fired.

    I understand both perspectives, they have to enforce their policies in order to assure that patients are safely to be taken care of. We had the same types of problems during the hurricanes.

    You have to do what you have to do for the safety of your family. You wouldn't have been able to live with yourself if something happened, or they needed you and you weren't there.

    Good luck finding someone to keep them in emergencies.
  5. by   cannoli
    Quote from nursewendy2000
    Just an update for you all...I called at 4am it had already started sleeting...its been going ever since. Anyway, when I called, the call-in nurse said whe was told not to accept any call-ins. I tol her I had already talked with the DON and Administrator the day before and just to write on the schedule that I am not coming in. The DON called me back and asked me what was going on and I told her I still wasn't able to find anyone for the kids...she said its not doing anything outside. I told her that it was at my house and they were still calling for the storm with potential for mass power outages and I was sorry but couldn't leave my kids with that. So, I was fired. I did remind her that I worked in every other ice/snowstorm in the past 4 years but I guess that didn't matter since she would be covering my shift...she said "don't plan on coming back". Thank you to everybody that shared your experiences an encouragement AND also to those with differing opinions for your honesty and sharing your perspective.

    How can they not "accept any call-ins"? Are they stupid or what? Hello, I'm having an MI, I won't be in this afternoon, .......oh, so sorry, we can't accept any call-ins. Hello, I'm calling in, I will not be in this afternoon, whether you accept it or not.

    Southern states are just wonderful.

    I'm sure you'll get plenty of work with the agency.

    I'm sure the driving conditions were appalling.

    Good luck.
  6. by   z's playa
    Did the power cut out yet?




    Good luck with everything

    Z
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    I think Tweety is right in that you have to have policies . . .however I do think that if you have a track record of not calling in sick, always showing up on time, and being a great employee . . . your place of business should be able to cut you a tad bit of slack.

    steph
  8. by   ProfRN4
    after being on both sides of the fence at the same time (staff and management), i too am torn. first off, i'm sorry you were fired. i can't beleive that they would do such a thing (i mean i can, as i'm sure you can, as you were expecting it). but fired??? that's a bit harsh. they were willing to lose an experienced nurse with a spotless record because of this??? (and now they have to pay you unemployment).

    i was supervising last weekend at one job (during the nyc blizzard), while hearing about my fellow staff nurses at my other job. the staff nurses at my other job (where i am staff) were told they needed to come in, no if's and's or butt's. well, my two friends (who live 45 min away) came in 6 hrs early, to ensure they would be there on time, before the snow got really bad. well, they were the only 2 (out of 5) to show up on the unit. there was no extra administration in house, and conveniently, none of them could be reached by phone. so what happened to the other 3 nurses? one did show up -after the staff called her to see if she was coming. she said it would take her too long to get there, the staff said "well leave now", so she made it in. the other two "couldn't make it in". their reward- a paid day (go figure). it made me very angry that they did not have a back up plan in place, or any plan for that matter.
    i do believe that calling out for the weather is generally unacceptable (the hospital or ltc can not close, and you can only mandate people for so many hours). but in your case it had little to do with the weather. you had a child care issue that you unfortunately couldn't resolve- weather or not. you gave them ample time/warning. true, you knew about this conflict early enough as well, but i assume you did your best to find alternative plans for your kids. couldn't they assist you in possibly switching with someone who lived closer. or letting your kids come in with you. we're not talking about my four year old, who needs to be tended to, your kids could occupy themselves (tv, books, computer, homework).

    if there's one thing i've learned from all this, it's nobody cares about you (not you, but all of us), and administration needs to plan for these things, and not just tell people to come in , and maybe offer incentives, and at the very least, a thank you.

    as far as your facility's management (or lackk of), their problem goes way beyond the weather. this is a blessing in disguise, i'm sure.
  9. by   flashpoint
    What would have happened if you had called in with diarrhea and vomiting? Would that have been acceptable? It seems pretty unfair that because you tried to give them ample notice and were honest you were fired, when you could have just lied and claimed you were sick at the last minute! Management knows that if they hire someone who lives out of town, they run the risk of that person not making it to work due to weather, car problems, etc. Even if a nurse has a backup plan, management knows that sometimes systems fail and things just go belly up. Even if you had appropriate care for your children, if the weather is really bad, it seems a bit unfair to ask you to rick your life driving when the roads are pure ice, visibility is nil, etc.
  10. by   live4today
    Quote from nursewendy2000
    just an update for you all...i called at 4am it had already started sleeting...its been going ever since. anyway, when i called, the call-in nurse said whe was told not to accept any call-ins. i tol her i had already talked with the don and administrator the day before and just to write on the schedule that i am not coming in. the don called me back and asked me what was going on and i told her i still wasn't able to find anyone for the kids...she said its not doing anything outside. i told her that it was at my house and they were still calling for the storm with potential for mass power outages and i was sorry but couldn't leave my kids with that. so, i was fired. i did remind her that i worked in every other ice/snowstorm in the past 4 years but i guess that didn't matter since she would be covering my shift...she said "don't plan on coming back". thank you to everybody that shared your experiences an encouragement and also to those with differing opinions for your honesty and sharing your perspective.
    as a former divorced mom who had to give up my full-time night job (years ago) to work for nursing agencies for the flexibility in hours to support my three children and be available to them more often, i completely understand your choice not to put your job before the care of your children. you can get another job, but your children are a once in a lifetime gift! i admire you for knowing where your priorities lie, and being courageous enough to choose your children over what sounds to me to be a crabby work environment managed by a crabby don anyway. being fired isn't the worse thing to have happen. you could have taken a greater risk in driving on ice, and being killed leaving your children with no mother at all.........or something could have happened to your children during your weekend at work.

    [color=#4b0082]we are alllllllll replaceable employees. no employer values us as employees to care one iota about our family life and family responsibilities that came loooooonnnnggg before them.
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    [color=#4b0082]by the way....why don't you sign up with local agencies and work a schedule that is more suitable for a single mom raising children. with four years of nursing experience, you won't have any problem working agency. actually, you only need one year of nursing experience to go agency. good luck to you!
    Last edit by live4today on Jan 29, '05
  11. by   DDRN4me
    Wendy, it is their loss. You made the right decision for your family.(see my signature line) You had the wisdom to do what you thought best. My guess is that the DON wanted to be home and now had to go in..too bad, thats what they get the big bucks for. (I was management once, too...hated it)I'm sure you will find something that will fit your lifestyle and family life too. I'll say a few extra prayers that something better comes along ! Mary
  12. by   jnette
    Quote from mgallant
    Wendy, it is their loss. You made the right decision for your family.(see my signature line) You had the wisdom to do what you thought best. My guess is that the DON wanted to be home and now had to go in..too bad, thats what they get the big bucks for. (I was management once, too...hated it)I'm sure you will find something that will fit your lifestyle and family life too. I'll say a few extra prayers that something better comes along ! Mary

    Ditto....

    I'm so sorry, yet relieved that you made the choice that YOU were comfortable with. I've been folowing the news/weather and SC was hit hard.. numerous wicked accidents ... solid ice on the roads.

    Regardless of my childrens' ages, if all other backup plans had fallen through.. my responsibility would have first been to THEM.
    In an icestorm like this, one never knows what might happen.. at home or on the roads. A whole weekend is too long a time to be gone under such severe conditions. Had something occurred you would never have forgiven yourself.

    Where one door shuts, a window is opened elsewhere. I have faith that you will be just fine.. better even than before.

    Hold your head high and know that your loved ones are safe..as are you.
  13. by   xmaxiex
    I admire you wendy ! Family is always first .

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