question about salary in the US - page 3

i got an offer from an agency, they told me that should i decide to choose them to process my paper, iLL be earning with a rate of 24 dollars per hour, for 36hours per week duty. my question is will... Read More

  1. by   norhubez
    Quote from 777RNThatsMe
    5 and 6 12's is insane people! I do 3 12s and let me tell you I get tired enough that, I have nothing left in energy for my kids let alone any more! and sometimes my 3 12s are in a row; or, if they fall on a weekend it's 4 in a row - and it kills my family.

    DON'T do it. To your wife; or your child.

    yeah, even thinking about it really makes me tired, lol. but for some, they just have to sacrifice, i think ill be one of them someday, see im the only one earning, so i think it would be impossible for us to survive in the us with just the basic salary
  2. by   norhubez
    Quote from lots_of_luv
    that is a little low for california, you should be getting paid in the 30's. why not try to apply directly to hospitals? goodluck!

    yeah i heard about being hired directly but i dont know how, which one to contact,can you help me??, the only way i know to work in the us now is with the help of agencies. which we all know takes a deduction from our salary in the future as a form of payment for their services
  3. by   RGN1
    Just replied to your other post OP. Again this wage is low for the area. I think you should give your agency the boot as they are obviously offering the lowest wages possible!

    I have given you a few ideas for direct hire on your other post. Just go search the Internet!! Also check out posts by Suzanne4 etc. you can search within "Allnurses" for exactly what you want by using the search tab near the top of the page. I suggest you do that!
  4. by   PMFB-RN
    [quote=777RNThatsMe;1924828]5 and 6 12's is insane people!
    I do 3 12s and let me tell you I get tired enough that, I have nothing left in energy for my kids let alone any more! and sometimes my 3 12s are in a row; or, if they fall on a weekend it's 4 in a row - and it kills my family.
    DON'T do it. To your wife; or your child.

    *** YOu should learn that different things work for different people rather than calling people you don't know insane. I find it a little disterbing that anyone would find them selves worn out after working a few shifts.
    The issue to me is working tired rather than the pure number of hours worked. I get enough sleep, run every morning before work and finish my shift feeling well with energy to spare.
    Medical residents work a lot more hours than I do, soldiers deployed to Iraq including nurses and docs work more hours than I do. The people who produce the food you eat likely work far more hours than I do.
  5. by   TAB_RN
    Quote from norhubez
    thanks for the insight, so i should exclude san diego now, another agency also offered nursing job in florida for 17/hour, they told me that cost of living there is quite low,one reason why salary was also down. is it true? anyone here who has gone to florida before?

    by TX you mean Texas? right? really thanks for the info guys, i was really not concern about these taxes before i made these thread, hope i can get more info, these website is really informative.now i really dont have any plans of going to california, lol.
    I lived in South Florida for 10 years (Ft. Lauderdale) and the cost of living there is NOT low. I live in Massachusetts now where the cost of living is quite high. Pay is usually relative to cost of living. You are not going to find a place that pays high, and living costs are low. For a family of three, if you make $1700.00/week you can expect about $500.00 of that taken in taxes... so now you end up with about $1,200.00 per week. Can you live off of it? I don't know. You can most likely expect at least one week of pay per month to go to rent. You are asking questions that are almost impossible to answer. Heat/electric/utilities cost quite a bit. We do not know what your debt is, or your style of living. The only thing I can tell you is that where ever you live, the pay will be relative to the cost of living.
  6. by   Alexsys
    [quote=PMFB-RN;1924945]
    Quote from 777RNThatsMe
    5 and 6 12's is insane people!
    I do 3 12s and let me tell you I get tired enough that, I have nothing left in energy for my kids let alone any more! and sometimes my 3 12s are in a row; or, if they fall on a weekend it's 4 in a row - and it kills my family.
    DON'T do it. To your wife; or your child.

    *** YOu should learn that different things work for different people rather than calling people you don't know insane. I find it a little disterbing that anyone would find them selves worn out after working a few shifts.
    The issue to me is working tired rather than the pure number of hours worked. I get enough sleep, run every morning before work and finish my shift feeling well with energy to spare.
    Medical residents work a lot more hours than I do, soldiers deployed to Iraq including nurses and docs work more hours than I do. The people who produce the food you eat likely work far more hours than I do.
    That poster did not call any other poster insane. As you you can see in the quote, the poster stated that the idea of working six 12 hour shifts is insane. Three 12 hours shifts CAN wear someone out depending on what type of unit they work on and what real life is like when they leave work. Everyone is diferent. I work in ICU/MICU and for some nurses, that is tiring, but I can do it all week long. I can go up to five shifts in a week, but not more than that. I do have a life too.
    That was what the poster was trying to say
  7. by   sweety 2
    You got that right. MED ERRORS!!!
  8. by   Kyrshamarks
    $24.00 an hour in California is very low even for recruitment agency wage. $17 an hour is also too low for Florida. In Texas $24.00 an hour would work and allow you to have your wife stay at home an put money aside for education for your daughter. Also working 6 12's a week is not undoable nor is it dangerous if you are capable of doing it. To blatantly say it is dangerous for anyone to do it is quite wrong. I worked for many years doing that exact thing. Your body gets used to it and your mental accuity does not go down. Not all nurses are created equal in stamina.
  9. by   PMFB-RN
    [quote=Alexsys;1925050][quote=PMFB-RN;1924945]

    That poster did not call any other poster insane. As you you can see in the quote, the poster stated that the idea of working six 12 hour shifts is insane. Three 12 hours shifts CAN wear someone out depending on what type of unit they work on and what real life is like when they leave work. Everyone is diferent.

    *** Yes, exactly That's why it is wrong to tell others what hours they work is insane. To me the idea of working 6 12s for a while to reduce the amount of debt one will graduate from CRNA school with seems perfectly logical.

    I work in ICU/MICU and for some nurses, that is tiring, but I can do it all week long. I can go up to five shifts in a week, but not more than that. I do have a life too.
    That was what the poster was trying to say

    *** Lots of people do what they need to do. They should not be told what they are doing is insane. Think about navy nurses on ships or army nurse deployed to the middle east where they work 12 hour shifts every day. They do what they need to do. I have a friend who worked 90 hours a week for months (not a nurse) to pay family medical bills. When I was in the infantry we stayed awake for days at a time and were all carrying loaded guns and hand grenades!
  10. by   777RNThatsMe
    Quote from HARRN2b
    I would not want a nurse taking care of me that works 6 days 12 hours per day. NO WAY!!!!

    I second that!!!
  11. by   ibnathan
    I will be graduating in December and I live in Bakersfield Calif. which is approx. 2 hours away from LA. Starting wage for new grad RNs is $23-26 hr. If you work an extra day a week equals out to about $500 a day or 25,000 extra a yr. Cost of living is decent and it is cheaper than L.A. but is beginning to climb. The recruiter at the hospital that I will be working at said that they have numerous RNs that make 150,000-200,000 a year. Personally, after my orientation I will probably work 4 days one week and then 5 the next. Also I have a friend who got a job offer in the San Diego area as a new grad and they offered her $34 dollars, and in San Francisco the starting rate for new grad can go as high as $40 hr. Shoot! Travel RNs make a killing $40-$50 an hr plus double time the 4th shift or after 8 hrs depending on their contract. Plus living expenses paid, car payment paid for, cell phone, electric bill, it is sick, and that is why someday I will travel.Good Luck!
    Last edit by ibnathan on Nov 15, '06
  12. by   777RNThatsMe
    Quote from norhubez
    yeah, even thinking about it really makes me tired, lol. but for some, they just have to sacrifice, i think ill be one of them someday, see im the only one earning, so i think it would be impossible for us to survive in the us with just the basic salary
    Well if just thinking about it makes you tired...wait until you run your rear off nonstop for 12 hours straight....for 3 in a row and then rethink you idea of doing 5, 6 12's..... b/c it's tougher than you think -- and med error risks are high.

    I have seen very good nurses begin to make more mistakes after the end of 2 12's....let alone 3. We work very hard here...depending on ratios and you cant' forget that - alot of hospitals have very high ratios. Even specialty units. The work is hard. And the hours are long - and you loose time with your family that you CANNOT get back. Think it over. Your personal decison but I recommend you think it over.

    And basically, here is the thing ... you need to call different hospitals and ask what jobs they have; what shifts they have; how much if any OT is required or when weekends are required etc.... ask about benefits (health) and cost thereof....

    Then explore the cost of living by looking at the DATA not asking people...the net has tons of data (not all correct though

    Insofar as you being the only income...I have 2 kids and am a single parent......and I pay our way. And i drive a new car. yeah we dont have alot left over. And I work 3 12's a week. And it's ENOUGH. Especially when it's every other weekend and it turns into a situation where .....you can't go do things with your church group or your friends.... b/c your schedule changes weekly...etc. It's hard to make plans. Some people are on call...you have to consider that. etc...so research hospitals and jobs. Not jus t pay.

    But what it comes down to is.... depending on how you spend/live....you CAN make it on 3 12's....or 4. Or whatever. As the only earner. I do it. You can as well. Now if you want fancy vacations and lots of money then no, it's hard on single income.

    So....look the data bases but know that it CAN be done if one lives w/out alot of outside debt such as new car etc.

    Good luck. I'd rethink the six 12's if I were you. It's not a good thing for patients or family and that is my opinion - to which I have a right. I would never ever ever want any nurse taking care of me that had done even 5 in a row let alone 4....... 3 is pushing...especially depending on acuity of patients and ratios.....its too much. Those who say they are never affected by it ....... (by working too long in a row) are kidding themselves.

    Best of luck.
  13. by   aggieamy5
    Quote from HARRN2b
    I would not want a nurse taking care of me that works 6 days 12 hours per day. NO WAY!!!!
    Many doctors work such hours. My ER resident friend works 60 hours in a week, often working 5 12's in a row. I know of plastic surgeons who even more hours than this. When my father was in the ICU, many of his doctors including his PCP where often working 12 hr days. The PCP would not even get to my Dad until about 10pm at night. We asked him about his hours and he said he just puts in long days, getting to work still at 8 or 9am. He is an excellent doctor and my family loves him. For some people, I do not think that working these kinds of hours necessarily jeopordizes medical care. It seems like some posters have forgotten that countless doctors work these kinds of hours and I'm sure their jobs can be just as stressful and hard. I do agree that this is not for everyone. I could NEVER do this. I tire very easily!

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