Putting on a condom catheter - page 3

I know a CNA who told me that she was allowed to put a condom catheter onto a patient. She said that the only way she could place it onto the patient was to masterbate him and that is what she did to... Read More

  1. Visit  RedhairedNurse profile page
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    Quote from kellrn4
    1. The CNA needs to be reported STAT.
    2. As a nurse you shouldn't of even of needed to post this to get feedback. It's your OBLIGATION to report her.
    The OP stated that she is not a nurse.
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  3. Visit  JDZ344 profile page
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    Quote from enchantmentdis
    Why is everyone so shocked by this CNAs stupid behavior? She is a CNA, for crying out loud. I hear stupid stuff like this from CNA's all the time, which is why I have to keep an eye on my patients even more closely when i do get a CNA.
    CNAs may not have the broader knowledge of nurses, but common sense should dictate not to masturbate a patient. It doesn't matter how much education you have or have not got, some things just should not need explaining.
    WANT2BANURSESOON likes this.
  4. Visit  RedhairedNurse profile page
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    Quote from enchantmentdis
    Why is everyone so shocked by this CNAs stupid behavior? She is a CNA, for crying out loud. I hear stupid stuff like this from CNA's all the time, which is why I have to keep an eye on my patients even more closely when i do get a CNA.
    Wow....I'm shocked by this post! Is it your overall generalization that all CNAs are stupid?
    Well, in defense of my CNAs, some of who are in nursing school, I think that this statement
    is unacceptable and wrong on all levels. I have some of the BEST CNAs that are very hard
    working and make my shift much easier.

    I agree with Leslie, 'me' also thinks you should take this up with your NM.
    havehope, greenfiremajick, JDZ344, and 1 other like this.
  5. Visit  DebblesRN profile page
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    Trick I learned from a male nurse when I was a CNA--roll the condom cath on and stick the adhesive to the penis, but to itself as well. Stays everytime. No masturbating your patient required. LOL

    I am just in shock that someone would do this, much less admit they do this.
  6. Visit  Vanillanut profile page
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    Quote from AddisonLawrence03
    I don't work with this CNA at all. This is someone I know who told me this information. I am just a student who is trying to get into nursing school and I don't know anything about condom catheters at all. So I googled it to find out if what she did was appropriate because it just didn't sound right to me.
    If you are honestly a nursing student/someone trying to get into nursing, then you need to report this. Get used to standing up for others who can't stand up for themselves.

    I mean, even if you weren't, and someone came along and told you they were sexually abusing someone else, what would you do? Because this is basically what it comes down to. One individual, confessing their abusive behaviour to another. Nurse or not, CNA or not. What they did/are doing is wrong, and you need to stop it- even if you have no legal obligation NOW, I think you have a moral obligation, as a human being.

    It's not your job to google whether masturbating a pt is wrong/right and then act/not act based on that (even if you couldn't figure that one out initially, based on "common sense". It is your responsibility to report things that seem "off" to the necessary authorities and let THEM decide if you are unsure.
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  7. Visit  pipay22 profile page
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    totally disgusting!
  8. Visit  merlee profile page
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    Okay, okay, enough outrage already. I actually laughed when I read this post; I remember thinking more than once in my young days "where is it and how will I get this thing on it?"

    The products have changed somewhat in 35 years, although elderly male anatomy has not. And if the man is obese, it may make placement even more difficult.

    And vaginal lubrication has nothing to do with the urethra, so female arousal will not help with foley placement.
  9. Visit  MECO28 profile page
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    Quote from enchantmentdis
    Why is everyone so shocked by this CNAs stupid behavior? She is a CNA, for crying out loud. I hear stupid stuff like this from CNA's all the time, which is why I have to keep an eye on my patients even more closely when i do get a CNA.
    Well, I take it you didn't work as a CNA before you became a nurse. I am a CNA who is currently in nursing school and I can always tell the nurses who have no idea what we do on a daily basis because they tend be condescending and rude-like you. CNAs haven't cornered the market on stupidity, pal, and I hope to God I never end up working with you.
    fuzzywuzzy, Fiona59, havehope, and 3 others like this.
  10. Visit  cjcsoon2brn profile page
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    Now wait a minute everybody... Doesn't everyone masturbate their patients in order to get a condom catheter on them? I thought that was standard practice lol

    Ok so perhaps not...

    Granted, putting on a condom catheter on a male patient is not an easy task (especially on the less endowed fellas) but if done correctly it does not require you to masturbate or arouse your patient. Just roll it on, no happy ending required. Oh and by the way I'm a CNA and I've managed to figure it out.

    !Chris
  11. Visit  greenfiremajick profile page
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    Quote from merlee
    Okay, okay, enough outrage already. I actually laughed when I read this post; I remember thinking more than once in my young days "where is it and how will I get this thing on it?"

    The products have changed somewhat in 35 years, although elderly male anatomy has not. And if the man is obese, it may make placement even more difficult.

    And vaginal lubrication has nothing to do with the urethra, so female arousal will not help with foley placement.

    I guess I should have been more literal....That was a tongue in cheek comment, meant to be rhetorical. Obviously, it wasn't conveyed as such...And it seems as if self lubricant from arousal would actually work, though not the same exact way but anyway, I digress.....................
    Last edit by greenfiremajick on Dec 10, '10
  12. Visit  GregoryRN profile page
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    I must give a shout out to all the women out there that don't know not to leave an uncircumcised man...uncovered. Clean under the foreskin then put it back. Even when putting on a condom catheter. If I am your pt you can go ahead and give me a shake though, hehe
    Fiona59 likes this.
  13. Visit  Ines Clark profile page
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    A CNA shouls not be allowed to put a condom catheter. Most of them have not been trained enough to do so. An erection is not necessary. If she or he cannot put the condom catheter should ask a nurse to help or replace him/her. Anyone who does anything different is because they have no brains and should not be a CNA. As far as I am concern CNA certification does not proof intelligence to care for anyone.
  14. Visit  K+MgSO4 profile page
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    Dead horse flogging
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