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:eek: I live in Oklahoma which cis supposed to be about number 49th in teacher salaries. I believe at my last recollection brand new teacher were starting out at about 29,000 a year. Now If Pattycakes and her husband are in fact teachers, and I do not mean of the Sunday School variety. Then they should be making at least 50,000 a year after 5 years in the profession. Teachers in our state do recieve yearly raises. They are not big ones but they are regular. Kind of like my annual 2% evaluation raise.

With the level of destitution that poor patty is complaining of I am thinking more like Teachers Aide.......

fergus51

6,620 Posts

Teachers here start at 30 000 a year and go up to 70 000 for principals, so I doubt a married teacher couple would qualify for welfare! (Nurses here go from 38- about 60 000)

Mkue

1,827 Posts

My Mom taught Kindergarten at a very small Catholic school, at that time she was only making between 17,000-20,000, mind you it was a very poor school. She had summers off and even used a lot of her own money for supplies for her class.

She loved her job and sure didn't do it for the money.

marie

pattycake92

4 Posts

I am not currently teaching because I just had a baby, and my other son is 4. I only made 1500 a month and felt that paying 900 to a daycare was stupid. Right now I tutor on the side. Yes we do quality for welfare on my husband's teaching salary. By the way my sister n law brought home 1500 every two weeks! After only 2 years in nursing school. In this area nurses do very well, and seem to really like their jobs! I really like the fact that nurses get paid for overtime. My husband works 3 nights out the week as a coach, and gets nothing for it. Any extra time or effort that is put into teaching is not rewarded (with money that is). I am not going into nursing for the money, if that was the case I would surely do something else. However, nurses do get paid for the time they put in. Whereas, I would be up till 2 or 3 at night grading papers and not see even a ham a christmas time! Just a christmas sticker on the outside of the envelope that my check was in:) I also like the fact that there are so many different areas in nursing. Whereas when you are teaching you are stuck in a classroom all day with out any adult conversation, and you can only teach your area etc.... With nursing, it seems like you can find an area that fits you. Anyway that is just my opinion.

pattycake92

4 Posts

This is a list from 98-99. These are averages so many make well below this. I live in MS. It takes about ten yrs. to get to 30 k per year.

47

Montana

31,536

48

Oklahoma

31,107

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49

Mississippi

29,550

50

North Dakota

29,002

51

South Dakota

28,386

Principals usually need their doctorate, and its not an easy job to handle or even find. Teaching can be rewarding, if you can take care of your family on that salary. My husband loves his job, I just did not think it was worth it, when you cry every time you see your paycheck.

nurs4kids

753 Posts

Specializes in Pediatric Rehabilitation.

patti suddenly became educated....notice how the grammar changed?? go figure

Patty,

$900/mo for daycare???? That's a bit steep for this area, isn't it?? What part of Mississippi are you in?? I may be interested in sliding a little west for that big of a pay increase.

babynurselsa, RN

1,129 Posts

Specializes in ER, NICU, NSY and some other stuff.

I looked at the Mississippi Dept of Education Web site and found that the average teacher salary there is 31,913. So are most of the teachers there I guess averaging > 10 years in the profession? You said earlier that you have taught for 5 years, yet you aare only makingg about 21,000 aa year? Well it soounds like if you just stick it out for 5 more years then you are in for a big pay jump.

nurs4kids

753 Posts

Specializes in Pediatric Rehabilitation.

" My aunt made $62,000 last year, working 2 days a week"

"I brought home $1500 a month as a teacher"

" I expect to get about a 15,000 dollar pay raise"

"My sister-in-law makes $29/hr"

The above were all things you've said over the past few days. Now it doesn't take an Algebra teacher to figure out that you're misled somewhere.

$1500/month = $18,000/yr or $8.65/hr =(your teacher pay)

$62,000/year = $5,167/month or $29.80/hr(for 40hrs/wk)

However, if it's figured on 2 days per week (assuming 12h/day), then it comes out to $49.68/hr. = (your aunt's pay as a nurse)

Nowwwwwwwww....where did your expectation of a 15k raise come from?? You are throwing numbers around that have absolutely no meaning or backing. No teacher with 5yrs experience is making less than $9/hr and no ASN bedside nurse is making $62k/yr working 2 days/week. Who are you trying to fool, us or yourself??? We're here, can't fool us..if you're trying to fool yourself then you'll just end up joining us whiners on this bb ;)

Another thing that's confusing. I really think you're just stirring the pot..spitting out info from your head. Do you think nursing is devoid of violence or abuse?? lol Do you think metal detectors are installed in ER's and in Main Entrances for the asthetics of the building?? Do you think parent's take their kids school business more serious than they do their kids life? If they're cussing you as a teacher, you just wait 'til you're their kid's nurse. Where do you think the gang-bangers end up when they've been shot? Where do you think the rival gang goes looking to "finish the job"?? Hint: it ain't at the local gameroom.

nurs4kids

753 Posts

Specializes in Pediatric Rehabilitation.
Originally posted by pattycake92

Whereas, I would be up till 2 or 3 at night grading papers and not see even a ham a christmas time! Just a christmas sticker on the outside of the envelope that my check was in:) I also like the fact that there are so many different areas in nursing. Whereas when you are teaching you are stuck in a classroom all day with out any adult conversation, and you can only teach your area etc.... With nursing, it seems like you can find an area that fits you. Anyway that is just my opinion.

Honey, in nursing, you won't have to worry about a Christmas ham either. You may get lucky enough to eat the left-overs off a patient's tray as you run from room to room. That's as close to Christmas ham as you'll come (unless your family is nice enough to bring you some left-overs after they're finished celebrating WITHOUT you). You don't have time for conversation, be it juvenile or adult. Quality conversation in nursing consist of, "could you get 339 off the bedpan, please?".."sure, just as soon as I finish collecting Mr Aroma's stool sample..".."thanks, don't forget universal precautions, she's got a history of...".

then again, that's just MY opinion ;) I still love nursing...but to love it, you must be realistic of your expectations.

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traumaRUs, MSN, APRN

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Come on guys, don't be too hard on Patti - my husband is a teacher and makes 50K/year but is partially funded by the govt (he teaches JROTC). I made $52K this year, working full-time in a busy ER with lots of OT.

In the ER where I work - I've been hit in the face (broke my glasses), spit on, pooped on, peed on, you name it. Fortunately, in Illinois it is now a felony to assault a health care provider - yeah.

We need more nurses, but just make sure you totally understand what you're getting into. What about a transition job as a unit clerk, secretary, CNA, tech, etc? That would give you some real-life experience and you would be able to accurately decide if this is what you want to do.

Good luck...judi

grouchy

238 Posts

I hate to continue the "whining", BUT... One of my disappointments with nursing is that I get far less in the way of intelligent adult interaction with my patients than I'd like. The vast majority of my patients are on the spectrum from early to late stages of dementia. Some of the alert ones are simply too sick to have much of a conversation. And I'm usually way too busy to do much chatting with my coworkers. I have met and enjoyed talking with some terrific patients and family members over the years. That has been one of the great pleasures of my job. (Although usually when I have these conversations I am simultaneously guiltily aware of how I can't afford to "waste" my time like this, because so many tasks are piling up undone). However, alot of my conversations with the confused elderly are not very rewarding. Just wanted to expose you to a little more reality.

fergus51

6,620 Posts

I like the idea that we get paid for all out overtime....I had to laugh a little.:rolleyes: AS IF!

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