Pot Smoking and Nursing - page 18

Im angry. I work for a small clinic in Northern CA. There are three RN's on staff at all time. Recently our Office Manager decided to start drug testing of all staff including Doctors. Well, one... Read More

  1. by   hotflashion
    Quote from carolmaccas66
    I completely disagree, despite what the research says.
    That is truly disturbing.
    Last edit by hotflashion on Oct 29, '11 : Reason: Correct spelling error.
  2. by   BunnySan27
    Long as this is a country where, we make billions of dollars in the drug business, drug cartels from other countries continue to funnel their drugs here they will always have drugs, and drug users, in all walks of life, is it right no....is it everyone no...is it me no....but this country loves money, and the potential for making bunches of it...don't believe turn on CNN on anygiven day. I'm just saying.
  3. by   belgarion
    I was walking out the door for work the other day when I saw an item on NBC news that talked about one of their polls showing that for the first time ever, 50% of Americans believe pot should be legalized. Now then, if this is correct, would it be because 50% of Americans do pot or because they are fed up with the "drug war"? Another story focused on drug lords using 12 year old kids as their runners. Seems the bosses consider children a renewable resource. One of my in-laws is a sheriff here in Texas and he was telling us that his department doesn't really concentrate on pot anymore unless they just happen to stumble across a big shipment or large scale grower. He did say they take down an average of 12-15 meth labs every month.

    Whether you use it or not, want it legalized or not, or have no opinion either way, you really have to admit that what we are doing tain't working. I'm fairly certain some people on this forum have the answer but I know I don't.
  4. by   Aurora77
    Quote from xtxrn
    OK.....add talking to a drunk to the list. I had a neighbor who was sloshed 4-5 days a week, peeing on himself in the front yard, etc. I didn't have much to do with him either

    For those who disagree with me, Okee dokee
    But there's a huge difference between someone who has a glass of wine at dinner and a drunk--the same way there's a difference between the casual pot user and an addict. It's basically the same thing in my mind, legalities aside.
  5. by   xtxrn
    Quote from Aurora77
    But there's a huge difference between someone who has a glass of wine at dinner and a drunk--the same way there's a difference between the casual pot user and an addict. It's basically the same thing in my mind, legalities aside.
    But A glass of wine with dinner doesn't impair someone Pot stays in the system a LOT longer than a single (or even 2 or more) drinks. ETOH metabolizes fast enough to measure the level in someone's system and see if there is a level of impairment. With pot, it takes days to weeks to months to clear depending on how much/how often it's used. If someone has an ETOH level that shows impairment, I agree with you- it causes immediate impairment.

    Look, you have our view- that's fine. I've got mine (and I'm also allowed that). I saw too many folks in drug/alcohol rehab going through detox for pot alone (confirmed by drug testing). It screws people up. I have a family member who smoked regularly (quit several years ago)... I'll just say that his pot use and life aren't something I'm aiming for in my own ... being stoned is being stoned... but pot stays longer.

    I had a former co-worker (late 80s) who would drag her cookie tin of pot and the papers/pipe out regularly. I'd leave. I wanted no part of it. I've had joints stuck in my hand at parties- couldn't get rid of it fast enough. I've never smoked the stuff. I have done stupid drinking (and that's exactly what it was - STUPID)....but the I grew up.
  6. by   xtxrn
    Quote from belgarion
    I was walking out the door for work the other day when I saw an item on NBC news that talked about one of their polls showing that for the first time ever, 50% of Americans believe pot should be legalized. Now then, if this is correct, would it be because 50% of Americans do pot or because they are fed up with the "drug war"? Another story focused on drug lords using 12 year old kids as their runners. Seems the bosses consider children a renewable resource. One of my in-laws is a sheriff here in Texas and he was telling us that his department doesn't really concentrate on pot anymore unless they just happen to stumble across a big shipment or large scale grower. He did say they take down an average of 12-15 meth labs every month.

    Whether you use it or not, want it legalized or not, or have no opinion either way, you really have to admit that what we are doing tain't working. I'm fairly certain some people on this forum have the answer but I know I don't.
    I wouldn't be surprised if more than %50 smoke pot, but answered no to not look like they do

    My biggest issue with pot is the safety aspect (medical people, transportation, factory work w/machines, etc).

    The situation in TX has been horrible, especially along the border, for decades. Even when I lived in the Hill Country (17 years), it was never something new to hear that some rancher had been killed by drug runners using his land for a drug highway.

    And, for the small time users, I'd have to agree that all of the legal rigamarole is taking away from more violent crimes. I'd rather see rehab for the folks not selling, up to some agreed upon weight of pot in their possession. Using a prison cell for someone who has not committed violent crimes is something that bugs me- again , not sure what the answer is

    If there was a way to get the stuff cleared out of the system at the same speed as booze, a lot of my concerns wouldn't exist Until then, I don't want potheads taking care of me or my family ..... my right

    For those who want to smoke- great..... just stay away from me, and we can both be happy Clear it out of your system? C'mon over and watch a movie with me (I don't believe that someone who smokes casually is 'bad' or skanky )
  7. by   whereslilly
    Years ago when I first started my Nursing career, I NEVER was asked to take a drug screen. The simple fact is today it is the NORM. You want to work stay away from all illegal subs period..no matter what soapbox you are standing on. Get real folks.(relax..just a legal smoke).
  8. by   That Guy
    2/3 of the people in this thread need to smoke a joint, relax a bit and down some cheetos. Good lord, lots of tension.
  9. by   latka6
    Just becase it is stored in your fat for longer doesn't mean it still effects you. Like I said, you have no idea what your talking about because you have never smoked pot. I have, I have also indulged in alcohol and
    no question, alcohol is much more dangerous in every way.
  10. by   xtxrn
    Quote from That Guy
    2/3 of the people in this thread need to smoke a joint, relax a bit and down some cheetos. Good lord, lots of tension.
    Nope- not tense- just have my opinion that disagrees with those who want to smoke pot


    Enjoy.
  11. by   MunoRN
    Quote from xtxrn
    But A glass of wine with dinner doesn't impair someone Pot stays in the system a LOT longer than a single (or even 2 or more) drinks. ETOH metabolizes fast enough to measure the level in someone's system and see if there is a level of impairment. With pot, it takes days to weeks to months to clear depending on how much/how often it's used. If someone has an ETOH level that shows impairment, I agree with you- it causes immediate impairment.

    Look, you have our view- that's fine. I've got mine (and I'm also allowed that). I saw too many folks in drug/alcohol rehab going through detox for pot alone (confirmed by drug testing). It screws people up. I have a family member who smoked regularly (quit several years ago)... I'll just say that his pot use and life aren't something I'm aiming for in my own ... being stoned is being stoned... but pot stays longer.

    I had a former co-worker (late 80s) who would drag her cookie tin of pot and the papers/pipe out regularly. I'd leave. I wanted no part of it. I've had joints stuck in my hand at parties- couldn't get rid of it fast enough. I've never smoked the stuff. I have done stupid drinking (and that's exactly what it was - STUPID)....but the I grew up.
    The metabolites of marijuana are detectable for long after marijuana is used, but this has nothing to do with how long a person is under the effects of marijuana. The metabolites of marijuana are fat soluble, which causes them to be stored in body fat and then released as fat is burned which causes a long, sustained released of metabolites into the urine. Opiates for instance are water soluble, and are therefore only detectable for a matter of hours, maybe a day or two.

    Alcohol goes through steady-state metabolism, which means that it's effects and duration of effect are directly related the amount consumed, the general rule is that one drink lasts approx 1 hour. Marijuana goes through a half-life metabolism, which means it lasts about the same amount of time regardless of amount ingested, the difference being the extent of effect. In terms of how lung someone is "high" on marijuana; it's generally considered to be about 2-4 hours (about the same amount of time someone is affected by a few drinks of alcohol).
  12. by   Lifeofanurse
    wow...I just read page one. Not all 15.

    Pot smoking nurses...WOW!
    Can someone fill me in where this is going down ....
    cause I don't want any of my loved ones treated by these yahoos!

    I don't want a nurse/dr who has had a few drinks working with me anymore than I want a pothead.

    Sorry...but to be honest.
    Unless you have a REAL and identifiable disease process that is helped by smoking pot...and live in a state that allows it for that purpose..(and I do btw support this movement for Cancer pts and other diseases).... I just can't say this is okay. It's not. It's against the law...whether I believe it to be right or wrong doesn't matter, fact is ..it is the law. I would expect as a professional nurse you would be required to uphold the laws of your state.
  13. by   xtxrn
    Quote from Lifeofanurse
    wow...I just read page one. Not all 15.

    Pot smoking nurses...WOW!
    Can someone fill me in where this is going down ....
    cause I don't want any of my loved ones treated by these yahoos!

    I don't want a nurse/dr who has had a few drinks working with me anymore than I want a pothead.

    Sorry...but to be honest.
    Unless you have a REAL and identifiable disease process that is helped by smoking pot...and live in a state that allows it for that purpose..(and I do btw support this movement for Cancer pts and other diseases).... I just can't say this is okay. It's not. It's against the law...whether I believe it to be right or wrong doesn't matter, fact is ..it is the law. I would expect as a professional nurse you would be required to uphold the laws of your state.
    All over, and since forever.

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