Posters that are not nurses - page 8

i'm going to keep this nice and polite i promise mods!:) i'm just hoping that one of the smart student/new nurse posters can answer this. i know that we have quite a few people on here that... Read More

  1. by   CiCigirl
    [quote=casbeezgirlrn;2043325]
    again, the issue is not of the posting in general, i and others i think have said that already. it's the rude, unsolicited remarks made. it's hard enough in real life to give constructive criticism, try and do it on a message board?


    oy vey...

    it's too bad that the above is true. but such is the world i suppose...

    i've included a direct quote from dutchgirlrn below in it's entireity. it's post no. 58 if anyone would like to look it up:

    it's a free country with freedom of speech and thank god for that! i don't have a problem with anyone posting no matter their profession i just find it odd that non-nurses and non-nursing students join. i am a nurse and thats why i'm here and not on a real estate forum.

    i was responding specifically to that post which just made my heart sink when i read it.

    i consider it a privlege to be able to visit and post at this website. i've been "out there" in the "real world" for several years. as many posters here are "out there" in the real nursing world. and i can't tell you how rare it is to be able to find free, valuable, insightful information from people who do it everyday. this type of website is not a common thing among other professions.

    for all the nurses who feel slighted by remarks, insults, "holier than thou" attitudes:

    please try to remember, for most of us (including yourself i'm sure) this website is a great place to post your vents, rants, joys, ideas, etc. but for others the internet is a place to hide. they feel they can say or do anything they feel without recourse. and unfortunately they choose to exercise that ability here. perhaps you could take this into consideration when reading something that someone you don't know, who is hiding behind a user name fascade, slams you. perhaps that would make the retaliatory post/slam hurt/irritate a little bit less. easier said than done, i know.

    but let me just say this, (as i too hide behind my user name fascade:chuckle ) that i, for one appreciate you. the care and knowledge you demonstrate on the job as well as the support that you demonstrate here is invaluable. you're the greatest!

    and for those of you who have not heard it lately, "thank you!!!"

    alright, i'm going to stop now b/c i've got that theme song from the johnson & johnson "we need more nurses" commercial playing in my head.:roll

    best wishes to everybody, keep your heads up!!
    Last edit by CiCigirl on Jan 30, '07
  2. by   Cattitude
    Quote from cicigirl
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    but let me just say this, (as i too hide behind my user name fascade:chuckle ) that i, for one appreciate you. the care and knowledge you demonstrate on the job as well as the support that you demonstrate here is invaluable. you're the greatest!

    and for those of you who have not heard it lately, "thank you!!!"

    alright, i'm going to stop now b/c i've got that theme song from the johnson & johnson "we need more nurses" commercial playing in my head.:roll

    best wishes to everybody, keep your heads up!!
    :1luvu: :icon_hug: :heartbeat :kiss now i think i can just about speak for all the nurses when i say you are welcome!!! and we appreciate you too! we need you guys to carry the torch. i know sometimes it seems like we're trying to scare off people from going into nursing but not true. we do want and need you guys and when you have a bad day at school or clinical or new job, feel free to vent away, we understand:d . and don't be so hard on dutchgirl, i think she was referring to the type of person posting that just likes to stir the pot, the true trolls. i don't think anyone has ever figured out why they're on the internet at all!




  3. by   medsurgnurse
    [quote=cicigirl;2043284]

    5. we want to be able to ask questions of experienced nurses. (what do you think about...what should i expect in...what did you guys do when this happened...how should i handle...etc., etc.)/quote]

    i,for one, welcome such questions from a student nurse or new nurse. what is not appreciated once again is having a student nurse , pre-req student, cna or other non-nursing person come on a thread and correct or bash nurses.
  4. by   CiCigirl
    point taken casbeez. everyone needs to blow off a bit of steam now and then....wasn't trying to :smiley_ab w/ her. was just (altruistically) trying to respond to post about why non-nsg students visit the site w/ all the reasons why we think the site is so great.

  5. by   myres07
    Quote from cicigirl
    dutchgirlrn:

    reasons non-nurses and non-nursing students join the website/post on threads:

    1. although we are not nurses, we believe that we would one day like to be. therefore we are searching the tool we have most readily available (the web) in search of insight and info from experienced nurses.

    some of us, myself included, visit this and other websites, read books written by nurses about their experiences, chat with the nursing department at our colleges about requirements, strike up conversations with nurses, other nursing/pre-nursing students whenever we get the chance---all in an effort to get more info.

    2. we want to commiserate with other nursing students/pre-nursing students on the website about what to expect and how best to prepare.

    3. we (specifically, i) really appreciate the fact that there's someplace i can go to fill my constant desire (translate: obsession) for more info on the nursing career.

    4. fulfilling the requirements for an rn is going to take three calendar years (including pre-req's) out of my life. that's three years of full-time earning potential lost while i'm in school. not to mention the money that has to be shelled out (translate: pulled from my meager retirement account) to pay for the education.

    i consider myself and other nursing/pre-nursing students to be prudent decision-makers by thoroughly researching this career choice before we fully take it on. perhaps you think it would be better for nursing students/pre-nursing students to never view or post on a site like this (translate: never get insight, ask questions, get feedback) until after they become nurses??

    of course that is not to say that we shouldn't watch what we say as potential newcomers to the profession and have not yet walked a mile in a nurse's shoes. saying there is much to be learned is a huuuuuuge understatement. of course there is much to be learned. and i think the majority of us very well realize that.

    5. we want to be able to ask questions of experienced nurses. (what do you think about...what should i expect in...what did you guys do when this happened...how should i handle...etc., etc.)

    6. some of us are idealistic. and we want to read about what we think might be our :redpinkhe dream :redpinkhe job. we want to know as much about it as we can.:wink2:

    perhaps if you were interested in real estate (and you might be, i don't know) you might choose to investigate as much info as you could find on the topic in your desire to build your career in that field. if you chose to do that i'd be the last person to knock you. i'd commend your diligence on doing your homework-so to speak-and finding out everything you could possibly find out about it before you leapt head-first into a real estate related profession.

    athough i am not a nurse yet i am very experienced in other fields that i have explored since entering the working world. perhaps experienced in some fields that you know nothing about. and i'm sure the same can be said for you. lets all try our darndest to be respectful and appreciative of each other at all times and in all posts. after all, aren't we all in the same profession/looking to get into the same profession?

    i, for one, am deeply greatful for the existence of a website such as this. i love to hear about the day-to-day nuts and bolts of what goes on in the nursing profession. i feel like i get a complete spectrum of opinions on all kinds of issues from all kinds of people and thoroughly appreciate the insight. thanks allnurses.com! you're the bees knees!! :wink2:

    anybody else have anything to add to the list of reasons why non-nurses and non-nursing students join the website/post on threads? any reasons i missed?

    take care everybody!

    very well said!!!!!!!!
  6. by   Roy Fokker
    Personally - I don't see a problem with joining forums that are not my "profession". Over the years, I have been a member (some of them, I'm still a current active member off) of :

    1. A military history forum dedicated to WWI and WWII from the Axis perspective - though I'm not a historian (military or otherwise).
    2. A military forum - built and run by an officer of the US Army. Lots of mil type folks and their spouses, children and others. I was in the Reserves - but that was ages ago. I am not and never was in active military forces.
    3. A Neon forum - just so when my 10 year old Plymouth PoS starts throwing fresh tantrums, I have someplace to turn to!
    4. A Pink Floyd fan forum - I love the band and their revolutionary music. I haven't touched my drum kit in ages and was never a formal musician.


    Sometimes, what matters to me in a forum is not so much it's subject matter but the people who populate it. Or the general attitude of the place. An analogy would be the reason I kept coming back to a local bar when I was in Buffalo - the food wasn't all that great and the drinks were ok --- but the bar keep was a treasure trove of information and the company was fantastic (discuss anything from Dostoyevsky to the NHL). I had a fun place to unwind, shoot some darts, discuss topics to mind's content, watch a hockey game or two and generally have a fun time.

    Why wouldn't I go there?

    cheers,
    Roy

    (Any Buffalo, NY natives who are curious about this bar may PM me )
  7. by   PaulaWVNCC
    Hello everyone. I wanted to read what some of you had to say about posters that are not nurses. I don't even know yet, if I am excepted into the program for the fall. I really did enjoy reading quite a few of the posts and appreciated the tact for which most of you had in your replies. Anyway, let's just say that I will get into the program and become a nurse in two yrs. and maybe go on further for a BSN. Good grief, LOL, I didn't mean to write all that. I did want to say that I hope to be posting here a lot and looking for wisdom from those who have been there. I hope I will be taken right in. There may be an issue here and there that I have more experience in than some who are "nurses" . I don't know what they would be right now. Let's say that I had a brother with a disease that I have been around all my like and have pretty much nursed him and helped with all his medical stuff at the doc's, hospitals, etc. I would have a lot more knowledge to share with someone just starting out and who hasn't even heard of that disease. I don't know what issues had been brought up that made the OP post this post...and maybe I am off, but sometimes we have life experiences that make us far more capable of handing out advise. Just a thought. I am 39 yrs old and I can't begin to say what all I have gone through. I just know that I may not be a nurse, but I have worked in ERs and on the road with paramedics, who also gave me advise. I went to school already and became a lab technician. I feel that GOD has always called me to be a "nurse", but I have put it off until now. I have two children, one which was born more than 12 wks early.

    Well I hope I didn't bore anyone...and I hope me being a former EMT ...well ya all won't hold it against me. My sister(who is an RN) told me never to tell anyone in the program that I was one at one time...LOL. Anyway, like I said I hope to post here often and gain a lot of friendships and knowledge while I am here. My best to all of you in your careers. I look forward to being a part of the nursing community of workers. I have immeasurable compassion for people. I love GOD. I love my two girls. And I am truly looking forward to becoming a nurse.

    Paula
  8. by   misty_maurie
    I just wanted to say that I think constructive input from anyone is a good thing. I am a newbie nurse.. i get LOTS of grief for that! So many people seem to think just cuz a nurse hasnt had a ton of experience in all areas then he/she knows nothing! That gets frustrating for me. Nursing is a scarey world in soooo many ways. We are a very important part of our patients recovery/maintenance and that is a huge responsibility.... sometimes overwhelming! I think the only thing that eases that burden is knowledge and experience. I really appreciate all you nurses out there! Visiting this site is a learning experience, as it should be! I think the issue with some of us new nurses is that we do lack the experience... we have so much information driven into our brains in school about "proper" procedures etc.. "this is the RIGHT way.." and.. "NEVER do this.." and what we arent taught is that sometimes you have no choice but do something on the fly and a million little rules are broken in the process. There is no learning greater than actually experiencing and working with the diseases, conditions, symptoms, and the individuality that is our patients! I hope all you experienced nurses will try to keep in mind that we newbies (for the most part) look up to you and are (or should be) looking to you for knowledge! Thank you!
  9. by   canoehead
    As far as non nurse posters, I don't get the attraction to the board, but the more the merrier. I do mind being chastised in a venting thread (by anyone) but I consider the source and move on. I sick to my eyeballs of NCLEX threads, but that's probably because in my day waiting was forever, and we just had to suck it up.

    The members that have made my ignore list are all nurses. There are some that should be on the ignore list, but I can't put them there because they tick me off so bad that I need to keep track of them. I consider that a self induced torture, and not the boards's fault.

    I sure hope that the rules don't change because I like to hear from students' experiences. Sometimes a fresh eye makes me reevaluate how I think about things. I love having EMT's on the site, they are just another part of the crowd in the ER, and any lab techs or RT's or registration, whatever, are welcome. If we play nice we can have a great time.
  10. by   nursemike
    Quote from PaulaWVNCC
    Hello everyone. I wanted to read what some of you had to say about posters that are not nurses. I don't even know yet, if I am excepted into the program for the fall. I really did enjoy reading quite a few of the posts and appreciated the tact for which most of you had in your replies. Anyway, let's just say that I will get into the program and become a nurse in two yrs. and maybe go on further for a BSN. Good grief, LOL, I didn't mean to write all that. I did want to say that I hope to be posting here a lot and looking for wisdom from those who have been there. I hope I will be taken right in. There may be an issue here and there that I have more experience in than some who are "nurses" . I don't know what they would be right now. Let's say that I had a brother with a disease that I have been around all my like and have pretty much nursed him and helped with all his medical stuff at the doc's, hospitals, etc. I would have a lot more knowledge to share with someone just starting out and who hasn't even heard of that disease. I don't know what issues had been brought up that made the OP post this post...and maybe I am off, but sometimes we have life experiences that make us far more capable of handing out advise. Just a thought. I am 39 yrs old and I can't begin to say what all I have gone through. I just know that I may not be a nurse, but I have worked in ERs and on the road with paramedics, who also gave me advise. I went to school already and became a lab technician. I feel that GOD has always called me to be a "nurse", but I have put it off until now. I have two children, one which was born more than 12 wks early.

    Well I hope I didn't bore anyone...and I hope me being a former EMT ...well ya all won't hold it against me. My sister(who is an RN) told me never to tell anyone in the program that I was one at one time...LOL. Anyway, like I said I hope to post here often and gain a lot of friendships and knowledge while I am here. My best to all of you in your careers. I look forward to being a part of the nursing community of workers. I have immeasurable compassion for people. I love GOD. I love my two girls. And I am truly looking forward to becoming a nurse.

    Paula
    I hope you enjoy your visits, and that they help you as much as they did when I was in school (all those many months ago...). I must admit, I haven't looked at the Terms of Service in awhile, but I don't recall anything that said you had to be a practicing nurse, or even a nursing student or allied healthcare worker, although it seems natural that nurses and nsg students will get the most benefit.
    You certainly aren't alone among past and present EMTs, either. When I was in school, nursing students shared some support classes with students in the paramedic program--most, if not all, of whom were already EMTs. It was an interesting mix. I enjoyed getting to know them, but I always thought they were kind of the "jocks." Grading standards for the nursing program were so intense that you could usually tell which students were in nursing or trying to get into the program--we tended to be drudges and workaholics. I don't think the paramedic program was any cakewalk, either, but these guys and girls had fun with it. I remember one coming in all happy and excited because he'd seen a transverse bisection (victim cut in half) at work the night before. Lots of other stories to make us future Nightengales cringe, too. On the whole, though, I thought they brought an interesting perspective to the mix. And, really, a lot of nurses become adrenaline junkies, too.
  11. by   SecondGenRN
    Hi everyone
    I am in my second of the 4 year BScN program at my local college. In response to the original post, I have seen students and new grads with the attitude that they know more than a nurse with 25 years experience (especially in the BScN program) I think a lot of this comes from the fact that as students, we are taught the IDEAL way to perform each task. Some students don't realize that the lab at school is hardly real life. While I agree that some nurses are resistant to change, my personal goal during clinical placement is to find an experienced nurse and learn as much as I can from her. Anyway, the point behind this long post is that we are new to the field and still learning... if we sometimes seem arrogant please be patient, I'm sure we'll figure it out soon lol
  12. by   adrienurse
    I could have really benefitted from this site when I was a student (but alas it was only in it's infancy), but I would have done so with a sense of respect and with the knowledge that the nurses speaking knew what they were talking about.
  13. by   Danish
    I am only a first semester LPN student and I have been lurking about this site for a little while. I cant tell you how much I appreciate the knowledge and expertise I have seen shared between skilled, experienced nurses and students. It is so nice to have somewhere to ask questions and share opinions without being criticized rudely. I have always been made to feel welcome and my questions have been encouraged. That is rare in this field. So THANK YOU!!!

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