Posters that are not nurses - page 4

i'm going to keep this nice and polite i promise mods!:) i'm just hoping that one of the smart student/new nurse posters can answer this. i know that we have quite a few people on here that... Read More

  1. by   JasonsGirl1983
    I am a new member of this forum, but have been reading things from this forum for quite some time now, and this one caught my eye. Why do you "seasoned" nurses feel like you need to pick on the newer students? Yeah they may not know what they are talking about and thats fine, but A- Why do you let it bother you B- Why don't you instead of complaining try to teach them how you see it, maybe they will see your point maybe not, but at least you won't sound like a little kid tattling on your friend. Life's too short to complain about people, I know I have better things to do, don't you?
  2. by   Dinith88
    Quote from scrubsnhugsRN
    Experience is truly everything in nursing,.
    THats it. I'll always defer to experience.

    In essence, nursing school is about paying lots of money, putting in your time, and learning medical terminology...oh, and spending some 'clinical time' watching real nurses work. So...they come out of nursing school (and can even still be in it) and are able to talk some of the talk (or post ) ...But until they 'make their bones' and put in some floor-time, they may as well be a well-read bystander.

    It's experience that makes us wise...not a big brain or a new degree.

    That may sound mean...but...

    I need some coffee.
  3. by   NICU_nurse2b
    I am a first year, second semester student in an ASN program. My instructor this semester (happens to be her first time teaching) told us something very important right before our first day of clinicals. Not word for word but it went something like this. What we have learned thus far is textbook, we have to teach you textbook. If you see a nurse doing something a different way then what you have learned, does not make it wrong. This is real-life nursing.
    I would never admonish a nurse for doing something a way I was not taught. I might ask her why she did it that way (without sounding like I thought she was wrong) or more than likely I would ask our instructor later.
  4. by   PANurseRN1
    Quote from SethJ
    I think we should acknowledge that students and new nurses and vets can all offer something valuable. As a student, I'm being taught the most up-to-date research based information. But a vet nurse has been on the job and can offer his/her experience. Personally, I hope to learn from my profs but also learn from the valuable vet nurses.
    Why do students assume that because someone has been a nurse for many years, his/her knowledge is out of date and not based on research? Do they think we just got our diplomas and stopped learning/reading/taking CE classes?

    How insulting.
  5. by   Jules A
    Quote from CASbeezgirlRN
    Oh she seems like a great lady and I posted to her as well. I am not referring to that kind of poster, more to the very obvious "bashing" type of posts. The ones where posters kind of say that nurses are wrong,wrong,wrong for doing such and such and they should do this and that. Of course they have such a vast wealth of knowledge being that they either a) never worked as a nurse or b) have about 2 days of nursing exp.
    Well my take on that poster is that she was very critical of nurses, the hospital environment as well as nursing instructors based on her daughter's account of events. Not saying that her kid wasn't 100% correct but I wasn't thrilled that a non-nurse was bashing our profession and was amazed at the people here jumping on the bandwagon to agree.

    Nursing school wasn't my favorite experience in life either. I had wonderful intructors, ones that I thought were far less than wonderful and the same with nurses on the hospital floors where I spent my clinicals. As an adult I decided not to let the less than supportive people ruin my experience and truthfully one of my most productivce clinicals was with a terror of an instructor. She had me so scared that my skills improved exponentially, didn't get much sleep that semester but I made sure I knew every thing I needed to know before hitting the floor. Did it need to be that stressful? No but it sure worked wonders in the big picture.

    If you are old enough to be a nurse you are old enough to leave Mommy home on orientation day...yup we had one of those.
  6. by   prowlingMA
    If I am one of these let me say I am sorry.
    I do not pretend to be a nurse, I am a CMA.
    I do not think I know even half what a nurse knows, and never mean to tell one how to do their job, just likw I wouldn't want one telling me how to do my job. Two different worlds.
    I simply feel that this is an excellent web sight for all that are in the medical field to come together and share their ideas and learn from one another by giving suggestions from experience , asking questions and sharing stories.
    If there was such a sight dedicated to CMA I would use it but there is none that I have found.
    We " outsiders appreciate the ability to come in to here and hear the " other side" of ddaily medical life.

    With the most respect and humbleness

    JG CMA
  7. by   Roy Fokker
    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Please let us NOT "personify" the thread. We are entitled to our opinions - so long as they stay within the ToS.

    cheers,
  8. by   PANurseRN1
    Quote from Jules A
    Well my take on that poster is that she was very critical of nurses, the hospital environment as well as nursing instructors based on her daughter's account of events. Not saying that her kid wasn't 100% correct but I wasn't thrilled that a non-nurse was bashing our profession and was amazed at the people here jumping on the bandwagon to agree.

    Nursing school wasn't my favorite experience in life either. I had wonderful intructors, ones that I thought were far less than wonderful and the same with nurses on the hospital floors where I spent my clinicals. As an adult I decided not to let the less than supportive people ruin my experience and truthfully one of my most productivce clinicals was with a terror of an instructor. She had me so scared that my skills improved exponentially, didn't get much sleep that semester but I made sure I knew every thing I needed to know before hitting the floor. Did it need to be that stressful? No but it sure worked wonders in the big picture.

    If you are old enough to be a nurse you are old enough to leave Mommy home on orientation day...yup we had one of those.
    My feelings exactly. Time to let the girl speak of for herself. You can't homeschool a nursing program. At some point she's going to need to stand on her own two feet. I found a few of her comments very offensive, and found it very odd that the young woman who was supposedly having the problems didn't post on her own.

    What is her mother going to do the first time a doctor tears into her daughter? Call him and tell him to stop picking on her daughter?
  9. by   PANurseRN1
    Sorry Roy, I posted that before I read your comment.
  10. by   DutchgirlRN
    It's a free country with freedom of speech and Thank God for that! I don't have a problem with anyone posting no matter their profession I just find it odd that non-nurses and non-nursing students join. I am a nurse and thats why I'm here and not on a real estate forum.
  11. by   muffie
    :yeahthat:
    Quote from DutchgirlRN
    It's a free country with freedom of speech and Thank God for that! I don't have a problem with anyone posting no matter their profession I just find it odd that non-nurses and non-nursing students join. I am a nurse and thats why I'm here and not on a real estate forum.
  12. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from RNKittyKat
    What's wrong with a different perspective? If the only people nurses listen to are other nurses, we'd be finding ourselves thinking in an ever decreasing sized box. Bring it on I say. Maybe I can learn something from outside my box. And maybe I can share what I've learned with the non-nurse. Keep communication open. When we stop talking, listening and sharing, we're done for. Might as well close all the schools. I've seen the teacher learn from the student.
    Amen.:smilecoffeeIlovecof
  13. by   PANurseRN1
    It's one thing to post a different idea/perspective; quite another when those individuals lecture/scold.

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