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Anyone else think Plan B will get GROSSLY out of hand? I think alot of 18 years old will be running to walmart every sunday nite! Also, cant it hurt a woman' s body if she takes Plan b too many... Read More

  1. by   cardiacRN2006
    Is the term embie offensive to you? That's just what we call them (in the infertility world).

    You create as many eggs as you do, meaning they super ovulate you, and if you produce 20, then you produce 20. Some don't fertilize, approx 25% (if you're lucky) , so now you have 15. Then some may fertilize, and not grow. Again, of the 10 or so left that are viable, they may place 3 inside of you, and they may not take. For $10,000-25,000, you really don't want that to be your only time, so you have some frozen. But roughly half don't survive the freeze. That's why they produce so many.

    BTW, there are almost 500,000 embroys on ice out there today.
  2. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Is the term embie offensive to you? That's just what we call them (in the infertility world).

    You create as many eggs as you do, meaning they super ovulate you, and if you produce 20, then you produce 20. Some don't fertilize, approx 25% (if you're lucky) , so now you have 15. Then some may fertilize, and not grow. Again, of the 10 or so left that are viable, they may place 3 inside of you, and they may not take. For $10,000-25,000, you really don't want that to be your only time, so you have some frozen. But roughly half don't survive the freeze. That's why they produce so many.

    BTW, there are almost 500,000 embroys on ice out there today.
    I understand why so many are created . . . I merely wondered if it really had to happen.

    As to the nickname - I had never heard embryos having a nickname and was curious. I never mentioned being offended.

    steph
  3. by   cardiacRN2006
    I didn't think that you implied it was offensive, but on a thread like this, I had to ask.

    Back to the original topic.......Plan B. Although, I think this thread has run its course...
  4. by   Alixandra
    I'm glad it will be available OTC, it's about time.
    I have had to use the Plan B, back when it was 8 birth control pills, take 4 one day and then take 4 more 12 hours later, once in 1997. I was 18, it was the second time I had ever had sex and my boyfriend and I got done and discovered the condom we had been using was shredded. It wasn't just broken, it looked like Freddy Krueger had got hold of it and destroyed it. I don't think I would use it ever again, because it made me very nauseous, it felt exactly like morning sickness. I didn't vomit but I sure felt like I was going to all day. I ended up missing a day of school(I was still in high school) and work due to it. I went to my family doctor's office for it and they looked at me like I was the world's biggest **** and I ended up being referred to Planned Parenthood and they gave it to me. It was $55 back then, so I'm sure it's not any cheaper now and would prolly cost more now. I certainly was not a **** and I also did the responsible thing when I found out our chosen method of birth control had failed. I didn't just sit around and 'hope for the best', I took action to make sure I would not get pregnant as I knew that neither I nor my boyfriend at the time were ready for a child.
    I will say less than a week later I went to my OB/GYN(who I should have gone to for Plan B, in the first place) and got on the pill to prevent that situation from happenning again.
    Condoms do fail, even when they don't break, I have a son to prove that. I was 22 when that happened and had my son when I was 23. We were using only condoms and we never had one break or leak as far as we know but one of them didn't work or I wouldn't have ened up pregnant. Plan B wasn't a choice in that case, but it just further shows that condoms don't always work the way they are supossed to.
    Birth control doesn't always work and most of the time it isn't obvious when it fails, but when it is obvious that your chosen method has failed you should have the ability to have access to Plan B.
    I think it should be available OTC for situations like mine where I did use Plan B, we used protection and it failed. Instead of sitting around and hoping that I didn't end up pregnant(like some 18 year olds would do), I took the nessary steps to do everything in my power to make sure I didn't end up with an unintentional pregnancy. I'm pro choice, but I know I could never have an abortion myself. I will say chances are I wouldn't have ended up pregnant anyways, as it wasn't the right time in my cycle for me to get pregnant but I will say that taking the pills made me sleep a lot easier until I started my period and knew for a fact that I was not pregnant.
    I will say the nausea I suffered was enough for me to say never again to using it unless nessesary. I think the name Plan B states it's purpose well, it's only to be used if your Plan A birth control fails. It certainly should not be used as birth control but I would honestly rather see someone using this as birth control over using abortion as birth control.
  5. by   hogan4736
    Quote from ortess1971
    This is going to sound bad, but maybe she doesn't want to say no. Women should be able to have sex and enjoy themselves also. Now granted, I'm all for using protection but condoms do break. I'm 35 and while I am not promiscuous by any means, I don't feel I should be made to feel "slutty" for actually enjoying sex...Tell the middle age guy at the pharmacy waiting in line to get his Viagra prescription filled to "just say no" (and incidentally, I bet insurance covers his Viagra to a greater extent than it covers my BCP's) and he'll look at you like you have 3 heads...
    I love the plan B pill...it's about time
    I hate the fact that it's "confused" w/ RU-486...as a previous poster said, it's essentially birth-control pills...It's NOT an abortion...You have to carry the baby...It's Just as much HIS responsibility, but, again, YOU have to carry the baby, many guys cruise after you get pregnant...Enjoy sex, but be responsible...Ensure he has a condom, or use another method...Don't rely on the guy, and don't rely on plan B
  6. by   Jayla
    The problem I see is that several of the young girls/women who have requested plan B repeatedly also come in for STD testing very frequently. Many times they are positive for Gonorrhea or Chlamydia, sometime herpes and syphilis. So, what I worry about is unsafe sex with multiple partners and the spread of disease, esp those without a cure.

    I'm glad plan b is available but hope there is not a correlation of increased spread of STDs.
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from hogan4736
    I love the plan B pill...it's about time
    I hate the fact that it's "confused" w/ RU-486...as a previous poster said, it's essentially birth-control pills...It's NOT an abortion...You have to carry the baby...It's Just as much HIS responsibility, but, again, YOU have to carry the baby, many guys cruise after you get pregnant...Enjoy sex, but be responsible...Ensure he has a condom, or use another method...Don't rely on the guy, and don't rely on plan B
    It can cause an early abortion - if you believe, as some of us have stated, that the fertilized egg is fully human and that life begins at conception.

    If the egg is prevented from attaching by an outside method or if a fetus is removed by an outside method, it is called a "theraputic abortion". If it happens due to some glitch in your body mechanics, then it is called a "spontaneous abortion". TAB vs. SAB in the physician's history and physical.

    steph

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