Plan B - page 7

Anyone else think Plan B will get GROSSLY out of hand? I think alot of 18 years old will be running to walmart every sunday nite! Also, cant it hurt a woman' s body if she takes Plan b too many... Read More

  1. by   txspadequeenRN
    I personally think its about time this became OTC for women. However, do yall know that all the morning after pill is mega doses of BCP's. There are websites that you can look up that tell you how many pills of what type of pill to take. There is a whole list with all kinds of BCP's on it. This is nothing new, its just most women didnt know this info was avaible. I would much rather see a woman using the morning after pill than having a back alley abortion.
  2. by   Natkat
    Quote from casi
    I'm curious about the idea that PlanB induces abortion through not allowing a fertalized egg to implant. From what I read it seems as though PlanB first tries to prevent fertalization, but when that doesn't happen has the mechanism to prevent implantation. Isn't this the same thing as oral contraceptives?

    When fertalization occurs both prevent implantation. With PlanB there is just a higher chance that fertalization has occurred.
    Plan B is different from BCPs because BCPs prevent ovulation. No ovulation = no egg. BCPs basically trick the body into thinking it's pregnant. No egg means no fertilization at all. With plan B it first tries to block fertilization and then later implantation, but there is an egg present.
  3. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from OB_or_NICU_hopeful
    I'm not "flaming" anyone. It seems to me that we ALL have our opinions on what other women should do/not do with their bodies. And we are ALL entitled to them.

    Actually, what I do with my body is none of your business. It never will be either.
    I see that you want to work in OB? When I worked in L&D, our unit (like a lot of units) performed induced ABs on babies under 20 weeks. How will you handle working in this situation? Now these babies were all induced for medical reasons, but none the less, it's an abortion on a baby. What about withdrawing care from a premie? Will you be able to separate your beliefs from those situations?

    Like a PP brought up, I wonder how Pro-lifers feel about the half million embies that are frozen right now? Am I a sinner because I want to produce more embies than I could ever use?
  4. by   denysegia
    "Plan B is not abortion. It works much like an IUD-that is, keeps the egg from implanting in the uterus."

    Not preaching here....I have my own unresolved issues about abortion....but to Catholics and other Pro-life groups, anything that prevents implantation of a fertilized ovum (including IUD's) is most definitely abortion. To many, life begins at conception.
    Just throwing this into the mix. We deal with many different belief systems, and just as we strive to respect Jehovah Witness's beliefs about blood transfusions, we need to understand what Pro-lifers believe, and to respect it.
    So yes, while Plan B may or may not be a good thing, we need to acknowedge that it is considered to be a form of abortion to many.
  5. by   777RNThatsMe
    [quote=Jolie]What does concern me, and what I have been unable to find an answer to is this: Will men over the age of 18 be allowed to purchase Plan B? If so, I am concerned about the potential for older men to abuse young girls and then give them Plan B to prevent possible pregnancy.


    Bingo ...I dont think it should be sold to men, period, ever.
  6. by   denysegia
    "Isn't this the same thing as oral contraceptives?"
    Combined OC work primarily by preventing ovulation, but the "mini-pill" (progesterone only) prevent implantation of an ovum.
  7. by   runningfool
    Quote from OB_or_NICU_hopeful
    I'm not "flaming" anyone. It seems to me that we ALL have our opinions on what other women should do/not do with their bodies. And we are ALL entitled to them.
    A few things here:

    1) It seems to me that alot of women who are pro-choice don't have an opinion on what other women should do or not do with their bodies because they want other women to have a choice even if it's a choice they wouldn't make for themselves because they don't know that person's medical history, financial state, or life's circumstances. They seem to trust that other women know what's best for themselves. It's usually the other way around with more conservative people who generally seem to be hung up on other's behavior or possible behavior.

    2) It's disturbing to me that women want to judge other women. I can't believe any woman would argue that she should be entitled to have an opinion on what another woman does with her body because I would think we'd all be sick to death of hearing about what everyone wants us to do with our bodies. Aren't we all sick of people who try to make us feel guilty because we aren't doing exactly what they do? Because I *AM* sick to death of it. In fact, I'd say I am disgusted by it. I would never pretend to know what is best for another human being who is a complete stranger or almost stranger to me and if I did have an opinion I'm sure they wouldn't care what I thought about their lives. I know I don't care what others think I should do since others are rarely thinking about what's actually in my best interest or what is best overall for me.
    You can never have any discussion on women's reproductive lives or any aspect of their lives without having a serious, heated debate. Why do people get so nosy and emotional over women's bodies and pretty much everything women do? Look at the debates about breastfeeding, sexuality, childcare, mothers in the workplace, and birth control. It's disgusting to me. Why can't we leave each other alone or atleast be more open-minded and supportive of each other? And all judging other women does is give off the message that others must make decisions for women because they are either too stupid, immature, or just plain incapable of making decisions on what is best for themselves. How can anyone not be disgusted by that?
  8. by   runningfool
    Quote from pat8585
    Anyone else think Plan B will get GROSSLY out of hand? I think alot of 18 years old will be running to walmart every sunday nite!
    Also, cant it hurt a woman' s body if she takes Plan b too many times?
    I'm baffled by people who think this would be abused considering plan b makes you cramp and have a period. I don't know any little girls or women who want to be flowing and cramping 24/7! I'm sure there could be a very, very, very small minority of extremely stupid and desperate women out there who would try to use it all the time, but most women aren't that brainless nor are they masochists who want to have a period every week.
  9. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from runningfool

    You can never have any discussion on women's reproductive lives or any aspect of their lives without having a serious, heated debate. Why do people get so nosy and emotional over women's bodies and pretty much everything women do? Look at the debates about breastfeeding, sexuality, childcare, mothers in the workplace, and birth control. It's disgusting to me. Why can't we leave each other alone or atleast be more open-minded and supportive of each other? And all judging other women does is give off the message that others must make decisions for women because they are either too stupid, immature, or just plain incapable of making decisions on what is best for themselves. How can anyone not be disgusted by that?
    Wow! Well said!
  10. by   fergus51
    Quote from pat8585
    Anyone else think Plan B will get GROSSLY out of hand? I think alot of 18 years old will be running to walmart every sunday nite!
    I really doubt it. I didn't turn into a huge whore when condoms were put into my school like some parents thought I would. Neiter did any of my friends. I don't see why this is so different.
  11. by   fergus51
    Quote from Natkat
    I think it's wonderful that women can buy it over the counter. How and why women intend to use it is nobody's business. If a woman wants to be promiscuous she doesn't need plan B to do it. Promiscuity has more to do with personality and a history of abuse than it does with the availability of birth control.

    I will be happy when we can separate biology from morality.
    I know promiscuous people and it has nothing to do with a history of abuse. I really do wonder why promiscuous women must be seen as somehow damaged in order to do what they do. Maybe that's just something they enjoy and I couldn't care less what two consenting adults enjoy doing. IMO Plan B isn't any different from the pill, IUDs, or depo provera, etc.

    My poor mother and I were talking about this when I saw her a couple of weeks ago. She does worry that Plan B will increase promiscuity. The discussion turned a little goofy when my response was "What's wrong with being promiscuous?". My dad just walked away and said "I didn't hear that!". :wink2: She knows I'm waaaaaaaaayyyy to shy to be promiscuous, but I enjoy teasing her a bit and part of me is serious. I really don't have any moral judgements against promiscuity.
  12. by   Spidey's mom
    I guess I'm a little surprised that anyone would think that women should all think the same thing - like we are the Stepford Wives or something.

    I'm proud of the fact that women on this thread are speaking their minds and hearts and souls about this issue. I think it shows great strength.

    Kudos to women who dare to disagree and talk out loud about it.

    That is part of what feminism is all about.

    steph
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    Fergus - Regarding sleeping around, I remember feeling as you do when I was young. Then, "recreational sex" was in vogue . . . ah but it was at the beginning of AIDS crisis.

    There are real consequences to playing around - one very sad one is playing with someone's heart.

    From my perspective now, as the 49 year old mother of 23, 21, 17 and 5 year old children, I have changed my mind. Life experiences, some personal and very painful, taught me that sex is something sacred (and yes really fun). Not to be taken lightly.

    But then I'm just an old fogie . . . .

    steph

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