Organ Donation and Homosexuals - page 6

Hey everyone. I had a pt come into the ER in full cardiac arrest. Didn't make it. 56 yr old really sad. He had a life partner who was extremely distraught and actually signed in to get medication... Read More

  1. by   rambisisking
    Hey, every now and then I get something right.
  2. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from rambisisking
    Hey, every now and then I get something right.
    LOL, I know how you feel since every now & then someone comes along that reads my post as I intended.
  3. by   SillyLilly
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Most donation centers protect against peer pressure by having you fill out a confidential statement to 'use or don't use' your donation.

    You STILL get credit, and the supply is protected against peer pressure donations.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    That is really a great idea.
  4. by   emllpn2006
    I believe that they need to rewrite all the rules for any type of donation. i regularly dontate plasma. I believe it helps may others and the quick $30.00 in nice when you are broke. I was asked if I ever even once engaged in sexual acts of any kinds with anyone who had a blood transfusion prior to 1980. I asnwered truthfully to the best of my knowledge no I have not but that my mother had a trasfusion when she was pregnate with my brother in 1976 and that I was born in 1979. They said that in not the question asked so that is okay. So I was like you mean having sex once with some one in that catagory would disqualify me but possible being infected with something unknown in utero from my mother doesnt. i would think that was a higher risk than having sex once with someone. They just repeated that is not the question so you are ok.
  5. by   Tweety
    Quote from Corvette Guy
    Again, my apologies for any misunderstanding. I was referring to a monogomous couple [no matter their sexual orientation] that practices anal sex. I was trying to make the point the word monogomous, alone, is not a qualifier of safety. BTW, a previous post by another member actually made a similar statement. Anyway, I don't know how more clearly I can be? I never mentioned anything about HIV testing. Yet, I do agree with what you are saying, too.

    Originally Posted by Corvette Guy
    Monogamous relationship? Monogamy is the custom or condition of having only one mate during a period of time. So, two people in a monogamous relationship that practice [lack of a better word] anal sex certainly provide a shadow of doubt.

    Perhaps monogamy isn't 100% foolproof as a qualifier. One must take other things into consideration. It's disappointing that because I've had sex with a man I'm automatically disqualified, when I'm negative, healthy and have had sex with one person the last 14 years who is the same satus as myself.

    I'm still not getting the statement: So, two people in a monogamous relationship that practice [lack of a better word] anal sex certainly provide a shadow of doubt. How is this particular practice different more risky in a monogamous relationship than oral or vaginal sex?
    Last edit by Tweety on Sep 30, '06
  6. by   maryshome8
    Quote from mercyteapot
    It has to go beyond that, though, to include the fact that virii are so easily spread due by this particular activity. It isn't that the behavior causes the virus, it just makes it easier to spread.
    Well, that would depend on what you define as "easier" to spread. I don't want to be too graphic, but we are all adults here...

    HIV is an example of (how shall I put this?) where it is better to give than to receive...if you follow me.

    I knew of a gay male couple that, didn't "switch" so to speak. After two years together, the one that was predominantly a "receiver" found out he was HIV positive through a blood donation...his faithful partner waited nervously through his own test results...to find out he was NEGATIVE..nothing short of a miracle after 2 years.

    It's been 15 years and they are still together....they do not engage in sex, they tell others they have other arrangements, and everyone in their social circle is respectful enough not to ask.

    They truly love each other...I don't know of very many straight couples that would stay with each other through something like that.
  7. by   maryshome8
    Quote from emllpn2006
    I believe that they need to rewrite all the rules for any type of donation. i regularly dontate plasma. I believe it helps may others and the quick $30.00 in nice when you are broke. I was asked if I ever even once engaged in sexual acts of any kinds with anyone who had a blood transfusion prior to 1980. I asnwered truthfully to the best of my knowledge no I have not but that my mother had a trasfusion when she was pregnate with my brother in 1976 and that I was born in 1979. They said that in not the question asked so that is okay. So I was like you mean having sex once with some one in that catagory would disqualify me but possible being infected with something unknown in utero from my mother doesnt. i would think that was a higher risk than having sex once with someone. They just repeated that is not the question so you are ok.
    Yeah, they definately need to rewrite the rules on that one. It was ok before they had a test for HIV, but they have one now that is pretty darn accurate and if you had sex with someone in 1978 that had a blood transfusing, drug user, whatever! To even assume that TODAY the blood is unsafe is silly...their tests would pick anything up.
  8. by   rjflyn
    The other thing we are missing back to the original concern is that someone who is getting an organ transplant is going to be taking immunosuppressant drugs. This fact in its self is going to increase that persons risk of aquiring any disease that the the donor potentially may be caring.

    As well organ donors are actually screened more thourghly than blood donors. The call to the donor agency is just the first step, unless one works in such a postion we dont probably know the half of it.

    The other thing is that the questions asked when one donates blood are based on science not just whims. Part of that process includes a look at the kind of people who donate blood. What is the mind set of the people who donate for example. Is the system perfect, no its not. But until there is a substitute for human blood its never going to be.

    Rj
  9. by   jnette
    Quote from supernurse65
    TOTALLY agree Tweety. a nurse is "exposed" to EVERYTHING.... so maybe nurses shouldnt be able to donate blood or organs due to their "high risk" atmosphere.
    A lot of talk on this topic, but I agree wholeheartedly with the above.

    "high risk" encompasses so much more than the "sexual behavior" of ONE particular population.
  10. by   emsboss
    Quote from Corvette Guy
    On a related side note; Soldiers that have spent a certain number of days in certain countries overseas cannot donate blood, either.
    This is true...As a Desert Storm vet I have been refused and told that my blood is "no good for donation." BUT!!!!!!!!!!...We were NOT exposed to anything harmful to our health . YEAH....RIIIIIGHT. (sorry...bitter vet here)
  11. by   maryshome8
    Quote from emsboss
    This is true...As a Desert Storm vet I have been refused and told that my blood is "no good for donation." BUT!!!!!!!!!!...We were NOT exposed to anything harmful to our health . YEAH....RIIIIIGHT. (sorry...bitter vet here)
    Actually, I agree with this decision. There are too many vets making claims for Gulf War Syndrome..which is of an unknown cause.

    I dated a guy for 2 years that received a medical discharge from the service b/c of this...and never did figure out how he was supposed to be "handicapped".

    I personally don't believe in the Gulf War Syndrome or the "9/11 Syndrome".

    But if people are making medical claims because of this...that is what happens.
  12. by   anc33
    Perhaps one testing for HIV, HCV, etc becomes part of our routine medical care these outdated fears of tainting our blood/organ supply will finally come to an end.
  13. by   emsboss
    I have never claimed to "gulf war syndrome" Have no ideas about it...BUT!!!!!!!! When the NBC(Nuclear-Biological-Chemical) guys all run for their vehicles and the alarms go off!?!?!?!?! Makes one go...HMMMMMM...I wonder????

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