Organ Donation and Homosexuals - page 2

Hey everyone. I had a pt come into the ER in full cardiac arrest. Didn't make it. 56 yr old really sad. He had a life partner who was extremely distraught and actually signed in to get medication... Read More

  1. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from supernurse65
    TOTALLY agree Tweety. a nurse is "exposed" to EVERYTHING.... so maybe nurses shouldnt be able to donate blood or organs. do to their "high risk" atmosphere.
    On a related side note; Soldiers that have spent a certain number of days in certain countries overseas cannot donate blood, either.
  2. by   daisey_may
    I think that denying a homosexual person to donate organs is completely judging them.

    I'm an organ donor, and for all anyone knows, I could sleep with a different guy every night. It takes a while for your blood to show you have HIV, so I could exhibit high risk behavior, but my organs would be accepted whereas a homosexual man's wouldn't. This double standard infuriates me.

    What if you hadn't said anything about the man being homosexual, would his organ's have been used anyway? Or do you have to declare a sexual preference?
  3. by   daisey_may
    Oh, and I know that everyone's blood is tested, but a person could lie about answering the questions. (I don't know why, but they could). I can't imagine that there would be consequences about lying for you, just who would be getting your blood.

    I'm thinking especially of people who donate plasma because you can make money. Some of the people who stand outside those places (because the line is so long it forms out the door) because they can make a quick 20 dollars may lie on the questionnaires so that they can get money. Are there consequences for lying?
  4. by   mysticalwaters1
    Quote from daisey_may
    What if you hadn't said anything about the man being homosexual, would his organ's have been used anyway? Or do you have to declare a sexual preference?
    I was explaining the pt's symptoms and mentioned "his life partner said...." and I was cut off and he was denied. I've allways just called the kidney line and they ask all the questions. This situation just has never came up before and was surprised by it knowing as others pointed out how well do you know people's sexual practices anyway.
  5. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from mysticalwaters1
    I was explaining the pt's symptoms and mentioned "his life partner said...." and I was cut off and he was denied. I've allways just called the kidney line and they ask all the questions. This situation just has never came up before and was surprised by it knowing as others pointed out how well do you know people's sexual practices anyway.
    Z posted earlier a good concern as to whether this is policy, or the individual kidney line representative's bias getting in the way?
  6. by   daisey_may
    It really appauls me. I wonder what could be done though to allow homosexuals to donate their organs if they wanted to. Anybody could have HIV. There are too many people out there who need organs to deny someone for donating their own on a not much more then a guess...
  7. by   mysticalwaters1
  8. by   Jules A
    Quote from smoo
    You know, if myself or a family member was going to die without a transplant of some kind and there was another person willing to donate I would take it regardless of sexual preference. I guess I just don't understand. It's sad to think someone's life could have possibly been saved, but because the person was homosexual he couldn't donate an organ to save that life.What if it is a heterosexual who has had an active sex life? Are they disqualified too?smoo
    Smoo, I agree 100%. This makes me sad and disgusted it is wasteful and insensitive. Just for the record if I ever need a transplant I would be honored to receive organs from a homosexual person, or any person at all for that matter, sheesh.
  9. by   CaseManager1947
    I'm no infectious disease expert, I just know that When I went to donate blood, and had been out of the country on a cruise that year, I was told couldn't donate for one full year, due to possible exposure to weird stuff (???????). As far as homosexual males being denied the opp to donate organs, this may follow the same guidelines as blood donation, I don't know (no high risk behaviors, blah blah). Kinda odd, since the American Red Cross was the last one to get on board with testing etc. in the late 80's early 90's (read Randy Shilts' book And the Band Played On. Oh well, I still think it's a shame when people are dying with a need for new kidneys, corneas, etc.

    Thanks for the topic

    Morghan ARNP
  10. by   rach_nc_03
    Quote from rjflyn
    I think that way it is looked at as far as blood donation and organs as well is that the exchange of fluids from even one homosexual encounter is far greater than that of a needle stick. As well there are some instances of a people developing HIV infection as far as 10 yrs out from said encounters.

    Rj
    It's not an exchange of fluids from a HOMOSEXUAL encounter- it's an exposure to fluids from an INFECTED individual during anal intercourse. The encounter could easily be (and frequently is) from a hetero encounter. Also, the statement about the risk of one encounter isn't true- the transmission rate after one encounter is actually quite low- the virus just isn't very hardy. Getting a needle stick from a Hep-C+ patient, on the other hand, is VERY risky.

    And, for the record, the estimate I've been hearing is that 50% of americans with HIV don't know they have it. So, that would pretty much exclude anyone who has condomless sex with anyone else whose HIV status they don't know.

    That would exclude a HUGE number of people.
  11. by   nursesaideBen
    This is an issue that really disturbs me and has for a while. I know last year I tried to donate blood for the first time and was treated like I had the Black Plague when they found out my sexual preference. It really upset me when it happened I just thought of all the people who needed blood and yet I couldn't help them out. It's really odd, I mean I get my STD and HIV screens done religiously every 6 months, have never tested positive for anything and yet still I'm blackballed. Oh well if no one wants my blood or organs I'll just take 'em with me :chuckle
  12. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from rach_nc_03
    It's not an exchange of fluids from a HOMOSEXUAL encounter- it's an exposure to fluids from an INFECTED individual during anal intercourse. The encounter could easily be (and frequently is) from a hetero encounter. Also, the statement about the risk of one encounter isn't true- the transmission rate after one encounter is actually quite low- the virus just isn't very hardy. Getting a needle stick from a Hep-C+ patient, on the other hand, is VERY risky.

    And, for the record, the estimate I've been hearing is that 50% of americans with HIV don't know they have it. So, that would pretty much exclude anyone who has condomless sex with anyone else whose HIV status they don't know.

    That would exclude a HUGE number of people.
    On a side note; Active duty Soldiers are required to submit HIV blood draw every two years.
  13. by   Celia M
    I know that I can't donate blood anymore since I lived in the UK and ate beef in the 1980's, I should imagine that I can't donate my organs too. it's a shame that otherwise healthy organs might go to waste, may be potential recipients could sign some kind of waiver so they could receive organs from people that are "high risk", but test negative, it might buy them a few more years.

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