Oooohhhh, Now I feel cosmopoliten, do you ALL wear scrubs? - page 7

Heya!!, wow, Im a british male student nurse, and firstly, hi! secondly do all nurse in the US, austraila, everywhere infact wear scrubs? I dont, I wish I did, "surgical blues" (scrubs) are so... Read More

  1. by   BritishStudent
    Karen. Do I have to point out to you that nobodys has said walk the walk since the 80's?:roll
  2. by   ayemmeff
    I'll hold him down,Karen,While you fetch your handbag(purse)!!!!
  3. by   karenG
    em sorry British student- its a good job you dont work with me!! I work with Prof Ami David- who is very high profile! and if she says it then its good enough for me!

    thanks for the offer to hold him down but I dont need any help- I fence (with swords) so hope he can run fast!!!! now where did I put my sabre..................

    Karen
  4. by   BritishStudent
    I do but jest my dear and wonderful ladies, let me remind you that I am young and naive not yet even a nurse *bows low*

    I would much love to fence again, I have not scince I came to Uni, where did I put my lead lined plasteron (To shield me from your freaky-cool uber nurse powers!) and lead lined jock strap...?(good for defence and family planning!)
    Last edit by BritishStudent on Jan 15, '03
  5. by   karenG
    you would need both when I get my sabre out!!! and flattering us will get you no-where...............we've dealt with students before!!!! more to the point........do you drink beer ( a time honoured student tradition!!)

    Karen
  6. by   rncountry
    Britstudent, you were an hour north of where I live. By the way it is spelled M-i-c-h-i-g-a-n! Now the big question. Did you have the grand opportunity of experiencing lake effect snow? Once upon a time I was going to work in the neuro ICU at Blodgett hospital, now Spectrum Health, but decided I just did not want to deal with the winter driving and declined the job. So what brought you to the great white north? How long ago where you here?
    Karen, I believe you are experiencing the same thing with Beverly Malone that American Nurses experienced when she was head of the ANA. If I recall correctly it was under her that the ANA started the labor arm of the association. The United American Nurses, problem was this. It is a labor association that is connected to an association that has nurses that are management nurses, and also nurses that work with the American Hospital Association. The AHA is the one who has come up with all the grand plans of having aides do tasks that were also the province of Nurses, like IV insertion, dropping NG's, inserting foley's etc... Many people, not all, but many, feel there is a definate conflict of interest there. Plus most southern and western state association were not keen on having to have a labor arm to their association in states that have traditionally been hostile to labor unions, so the solution was to put in a work place advocacy program in those states. This program has no teeth, and is basicly ineffective. I may wrong but I believe she was the head of the ANA when California disaffliated from the ANA. If she wasn't then it was around the same time frame. California left the association because they felt the ANA was not addressing the real problems, and that they were not addressing the actual needs of the bedside nurse. I don't understand why the RNC would pay for her flights home? Or other perks. She opted to take a job there, if she wants to come home it should be on her dime. She's been there about 2 years right? I recall at the time I was corresponding with someone involved with Unison and he emailed wondering what she had accomplished here. While she has an impressive resume, I just don't recall her leading the ANA as a group that most nurses here felt was effective to what was happening to us at the bedside. At the time I was quite shocked that an American nurse was hired to lead British nurses, and I was given to understand she did not take a RN license in Britian. Though that may have changed. I know that if the shoe was on the other foot, I would not be happy with the situation. Now if there were dynamic results happening, that may be one thing, but if there are not I'd vote her out.
  7. by   karenG
    hi Rncountry

    yes, beverly does have an impressive cv. not sure how she got the job here- cant remember if she was head hunted. we dont get a say in who is head of the RCN! so we cant vote her out! we dont hear very much about her work so difficult to judge how effective she is. not sure she has much understanding as to how our health care system works- or not as the case may be!! it is certainly different to yours! so no dynamic things happening! not sure how long her contract is............. and employing her has led to the RCN becoming very PC. one of the more effective leaders at the RCN was forced to resign for making a remark which could have offended Beverly. I cant remember the remark! sad.

    Karen
  8. by   Laura C
    In reading the threads I read a comment from mario_ragucci that bothered me a little. By no means am I over weight, but some of my good friends and co-worker are. She stated that in Portland, Orgen the over weight people are hated. I think that is very strange. not everyone has the perfect body for what ever reason.But it does not make them a bad person, or a bad nurse. I know alot of heavy ladies that are excellent nurses and they dress very clean and are pretty ladies. My question is why do you hate over weight nurses/people?
    Last edit by Laura C on Jan 16, '03
  9. by   BritishStudent
    Originally posted by karenG
    you would need both when I get my sabre out!!! and flattering us will get you no-where...............we've dealt with students before!!!! more to the point........do you drink beer ( a time honoured student tradition!!)

    Karen
    Well, alcohol is an intresting question I must confess, Ive had to scratch whisky, vodka (god I miss it), brandy and alchopops of the list of drinks I like to drink, cause I tend to just keep drinking till I spew everywhere... and then cant stand the taste anymore...

    So now I'm onto cider, never liked beer or larger, its low on mylist of drinks to have......


    In truth I thik I'll stopdrinking soon, but not yet, especialy after some of our worse lectures....
  10. by   karenG
    are you sure you are a student nurse????????? I am ashamed of you, good job you were not in my group!! we all drank copious amounts and managed to work with awful hangovers!!!!!!

    oh, the youth of today!!!!!!!!

    Karen
  11. by   RNagape
    I'm an ICU nurse and we generally wear whatever color scrubs we want. I find hospital issue green the most comfy, but I never wear them as pajamas-- reminds me too much of work. The shoes are what I think is funny. In nursing school it was all white only. Now it's whatever. we have a nurse who wears cowboy boots with his scrubs!
  12. by   chrisrob
    I'm an Occ Health nurse working in heavy industry in a male dominted workplace I dont wear a uniform but due to the Nature of the job i wear trousers mainly jeans I love my uniform! in my last job CCu (ICU) we wore scrubs At the local hospital here staff wear scrubs in ER, ICU and ITU this might just be because uniforms get soiled and it is easier to supply scrubs than extra unifoms I dont know it was a lot easier to work in CCU in scrubs they were really comfortable.
  13. by   YukonSean
    Yes, in Canada, the vast majority of nurses wear scrubs these days. During my training, women were not allowed to sport gaudy or jingly jewellery, and were required to have only plain clear nail polish etc. Males had to have hair cut above the collar line, and schools of nursing had a specific uniform code, e.g., I wore the 'dentist' style of tunic and trousers, all in white. I also nursed in London, England, in the 1980s, and at that time, men wore a 'military' or 'naval' style uniform, complete with epaulets on the shoulders. In certain areas today (such as paediatrics or labour and delivery), one sees nurses wearing scrubs that are often printed with bright cartoon patterns. I recall when particular paramedical disciplines wore specific colours of scrub, e.g., navy for respiratory therapists, etc. The standard hospital-issue green scrub is normally worn by perioperative staff (i.e., Theatre nurses and doctors).
    Alas, with much challenge, my wife managed to obtain some nurses' maternity dresses while she was expecting. These are worth their weight in gold!
    I myself have done inpatient psychiatry and community mental health for years: plain clothes! In Canada RN is the abbreviation for Registered Nurse, analogous to Registered General Nurse in the British Isles. Traditionally, Canadian RNs trained for three years at community college (in our vernacular, "diploma nurses"), or four years at university ("degree nurses"). However, nearly every Canadian jurisdiction is presently phasing out diploma programmes, with baccalaureate entry to practise scheduled to become mandatory by 2005. Universities here offer a variety of post-dilpoma bachelor's courses. Licensed Practical Nurses (LPN; also known as Registered Practical Nurses in some provinces) do a one or two academic year course at college, and are comparable to the enrolled nurses in the U.K. In our four western provinces only, there are Registered Psychiatric Nurses (RPN), who study either two years at college, or four years for a bachelor of science in mental health nursing. I believe these are similar to the RMNs in Ireland and Britain. Finally, in some chronic care facilities such as nursing homes, one might see Health Care Aides, which I think are similar to the Auxiliary Nurses mentioned by the British Student nurse. Nurse training was transferred from Canadian hospitals to the colleges and universities, I think in the late 1970s. Hope this helps!
    Sean.

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