Nursing without license - page 2

Hi everybody, I have been searching throughout the forums for information regarding legal implications of Nurses practicing without a license, either status "denied" or "expired" . The other day... Read More

  1. by   Balder_LPN
    When I researched this I found that state law says provides an exemption to the prohibition of unlicensed personel using the title nurse for a "Christian Science nurse" as long as that person doesnt use LPN RN or ARNP or the terms for those abbrv.

    What is a "Christian Science nurse"?
  2. by   santhony44
    In the most recent Texas bulletin, one of these imposters was employed for over a year before someone noticed no license was on file! Most of the time it's picked up fairly quickly, often before the person ever starts working.
  3. by   P_RN
    Using the protected title Nurse is illegal. The facility that allows this should be reported. If the facility receives any federal funding, it is Fraud-usually Medicare Fraud. And Uncle Sam takes a quite dim view of that.

    We need to have our license renewed by Jan 31, with a copy in our personnel file. No copy, no pay check and no hours until it's there. I'm not sure about licenses covered in the Compact States.
  4. by   carol72
    This information would lie "heavy on my heart". I would be compelled to let someone of authority know. I worked with an LVN who, for some reason checked on our co-worker's license, she was an "RN", well, she was not an RN. Saddled with this info she came to me, her so-worker, not knowing who to turn to. I suggested she tell no one else (ever) with the exception of one person of authority at our practice. Case closed.
  5. by   TouchstoneRN
    Update on the imposters at least one of them has been fired and advised to seek legal council. I am not sure what is happening with the others. The thing that makes me the most mad is that management (below the CNO) stated to coworkers "give this nurse a call, she needs alot of friends right now" .
  6. by   destiny5
    Quote from TouchstoneRN
    Update on the imposters at least one of them has been fired and advised to seek legal council. I am not sure what is happening with the others. The thing that makes me the most mad is that management (below the CNO) stated to coworkers "give this nurse a call, she needs alot of friends right now" .
    I'm interested in knowing the reason they don't have a license. I think an RN working with an expired license is very different than a GN who never passed NCLEX & never received a license at all. If there was a nurse that worked with me whose license was expired I would "give the nurse a call" maybe he/she forgot to renew it. I bet it happens more than you think. --
  7. by   kukukajoo
    Touchstone- Why would management telling you she needs support be so maddening to you? It sounds like that person is compassionate and maybe he/she knows more than you about the case such as this was something unintentional. I am sure nothing could be lost by being supportive and possibly a lot gained.
  8. by   TouchstoneRN
    because the person never had a license, apparently failed the boards three times and continued to work under the assumption noone would find out. Very irresponsible and dangerous. the other two nurses had expired licenses and are working with the state to get it straightened out...that I can live with.
  9. by   BSNtobe2009
    In all 50 states, any type of medical profession that requires a license to perform it, and if you violate that it is a misdemeanor. You not only get fired from your job, but you can be criminally prosecuted, and if your license is temporarily suspended you can void forever your chances of getting it reinstated.

    It's the job of the nurse to inform her employer, but it's also the job of the employer to check on a regular basis.

    I would report it. There are many reasons that are non-hospital related why someone would lose their license, and it's usually because of another criminal activity that they failed to report to the BON.

    Also, hospitals are at risk and their may be corporate insurance implications for the hospital if that nurse makes a mistake and they find out she isn't licensed. It would give a lawyer a field day.

    Lawsuits due to lawsuits= Lost jobs and pay raises.

    So it is EVERYBODY'S problem.
  10. by   BSNtobe2009
    Quote from kitten79
    This information would lie "heavy on my heart". I would be compelled to let someone of authority know. I worked with an LVN who, for some reason checked on our co-worker's license, she was an "RN", well, she was not an RN. Saddled with this info she came to me, her so-worker, not knowing who to turn to. I suggested she tell no one else (ever) with the exception of one person of authority at our practice. Case closed.
    I probably wouldn't have been so kind, because she is probably getting RN pay, and legally, your are held to the legal standard of your training in the event that something should go wrong.
  11. by   HappyNurse2005
    Yes, but you also must think-maybe they legally have a different name, or go by their middle name at work. for ex, we have a nurse (not her real name here, of course) named Jennifer Layla Jones. She goes by Layla Jones, its on her nametag, etc. everyone calls her layla. now, if you did an internet license search for Layla Jones, you wouldn't find anything, since legally she's Jennifer.

    things aren't always as they seem, and i wouldn't go reporting people if you dont know for sure. your work should be verifying licenses, and making people show them when they renew
    Last edit by prmenrs on Nov 14, '06
  12. by   TouchstoneRN
    First of all, License verification sites are public record and can be viewed by anyone. In each case the name and SS# of the nurse was on the Verification site. Second the nurse who discovered it brought the findings to the unit manager's attention who then called the nurses at home and discussed the situation with them. The one nurse never had a license because she was hired as a GN and then took the boards three times and failed all three times. She failed to mention this fact to our unit manager and continued to work under the presumption that she was still a nurse. The other two nurses admitted to having expired licenses and are currently trying to clear things up. I know that when my license was up for renewal I received a paper with my paycheck reminding me to get it renewed two months prior.
  13. by   txspadequeenRN
    This is true I went to the Texas BON and you can enter your SS#, license # or name and all the info pops up. I dont know if I like all my information just popping up and just anyone and everyone being able to view it.. But thats just the way it is I guess...


    Quote from TouchstoneRN
    First of all, License verification sites are public record and can be viewed by anyone. In each case the name and SS# of the nurse was on the Verification site. Second the nurse who discovered it brought the findings to the unit manager's attention who then called the nurses at home and discussed the situation with them. The one nurse never had a license because she was hired as a GN and then took the boards three times and failed all three times. She failed to mention this fact to our unit manager and continued to work under the presumption that she was still a nurse. The other two nurses admitted to having expired licenses and are currently trying to clear things up. I know that when my license was up for renewal I received a paper with my paycheck reminding me to get it renewed two months prior.

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