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No. 20
from Jules A
Old Oct 12, 2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shodobe View Post
As other posters noted there is only a shortage due to the pick and choose attitudes alot of students have coming out of school. They zero in on one type of work and if they don't get it right away they continue to ignore other jobs until they realize there isn't any jobs out there! Wrong, there are jobs just not the ones they want. Some areas of the country are saturated with nurses only because everybody wants to move there work and live. I almost think the BORN of Calif should put a rule in place where you can't apply for a license here for a least a year after graduation. I know , this is a bit selfish but I feel it is unfair for all those who go to school here only to have to compete for work with 20 people, 15 of those from other parts of the country. Don't be so picky, take any job and get some good experience then move on later into work you really want to do.
Why would this matter? If new grads are able to be hired in positions they want or decide not to work because they are too picky, who cares? If they were complaining about not being able to find a job I'd agree with your last line 100% but that isn't the feedback I have read here.

FWIW I've found work and opportunities plentiful in the Balto/DC area.
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No. 21
from lpnflorida
Old Oct 12, 2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Seagate View Post
Is this for a school paper on nursing shortage? Are you pro or con for it? lol

yes there is a nursing shortage - nurses are getting older and retiring more and we need new nurses to fill in their spot.

Just for some levity,,
don't hold you breathe on my spot or a few of my best friends who are RN's we aren't retiring until age 70 so that is 13 years away lol...........
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No. 22
from shodobe
Old Oct 12, 2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules A View Post
Why would this matter? If new grads are able to be hired in positions they want or decide not to work because they are too picky, who cares? If they were complaining about not being able to find a job I'd agree with your last line 100% but that isn't the feedback I have read here.

FWIW I've found work and opportunities plentiful in the Balto/DC area.
I think it matters very much. I don't know about you but I have been around long enough in nursing to see this in many posts on this forum. A person who greatly desires to work L&D will pass up other oppurtunities so, just in case, that dream job comes along. This might take months and months. Granted, if they want to do this that is fine, thier perogative. But, I just bet, many of these same people are holding out and complaining there are no jobs. Just the opposite in many places around the country. It is that they have their heart set on L&D and don't really want to do anything else. Also, they keep saying there are no jobs in the same places around country but mainly here in California around the Bay area and San Diego. It seems everyone that grads from nursing around the country wants to go to these places and they wonder why there are no jobs! DUH! I guess what you are hearing in these posts and what I percieve to be the problem are each others opinion. I also plan on working until I want to stop which is not to far in the future. I had plan on working until I was 65 full-time even before this economic meltdown. I will then cut back part-time until I want to stop, so my spot is a long way off you young wippersnappers!
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No. 23
Old Oct 12, 2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Seagate View Post
Is this for a school paper on nursing shortage? Are you pro or con for it? lol

yes there is a nursing shortage - nurses are getting older and retiring more and we need new nurses to fill in their spot.

No, it's not for a school paper. I've been an RN for over 7 years, and in healthcare for over 12.

It's both here, and from students I see doing clinicals on my floor, that I hear the term "nursing shortage" and it baffles me...I look at the current posted positions in my facility, and there are just NONE. Especially not for new grads; the types of positions that ARE out there might be for, the director of a department, that requires much education/experience. I could not imagine graduating NOW and trying to find a job compared to when I did, when I had the choice of what floor I wanted to work on (I interviewed for 3 floors all at once, I was called at home less than an hour afterwards and offered a position on "whichever one I wanted." This would not happen today!).

We certainly do work what feels "short," but this is based on how many nurses we are told we can have on, not how many we have available. This is only going to get worse as our economy continues to crash, sadly. I've always thought that my choice of nursing as a career equated with job security, and I no longer feel that way, I feel lucky to have a job at all! My income is no longer guaranteed either, as we are frequently called off despite the floor being busy (I'm often amazed, if I get called off for the first portion of my shift, how crazy it is when I come in, knowing they couldn't justify having the extra nurse there!). I can use vacation right now to supplement my lost hours, but it is rapidly drying up, and what do I do once it's gone?? I feel DANG lucky to have my job, this is the one thing I can say for sure.

Thank you all for your input. I decided to ask because I continue to see the words "nursing shortage" every where, and couldn't understand the reasoning behind thinking there IS one. I would have no problem working ANYWHERE right now, be it a nursing home or whatever, just to have a job at all (I picked a hospital after graduation rather than the nursing home I worked as a CNA at in order to use my skills). I don't have what anyone would call a "dream job," I don't think; it's not a specialty (well, I think med/surg is a specialty, but not all would agree). My hours are good for me (12 hour pm's), but not all would like them. I considered it a gift to have the opportunity/seniority to get off of 12 hour nights after almost 7 years of that.

I disagree on the retirement aspect also; the "aging' RN's I work for are no longer thinking they will be able to retire at ALL unless forced in to it, either by our facility or by their own health or other circumstances. That, coupled with the demand to get by with less staff overall, defies the logic of "filling spots"....in my experience, as people leave/retire, those "spots" are not filled. They are absorbed and gotten rid of.

Again, thank you for your thoughts, keep them coming. I know that things may be very different in other parts of the country, so it's good to hear for either a) reassurance or b) confirmation!
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No. 24
from lpnflorida
Old Oct 12, 2008, 07:10 PM

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Cherry,

I agree with everything you just said above. My age group is fearful we will never get to retire in this economy, forcing us to work longer than we had originally anticipated. I too am thankful to have a job.
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No. 25
from CJCM
Old Oct 14, 2008, 07:27 AM

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I do believe that there is a shortage of nurses, and is only going to get worse in a few years. There are a lot of nurses leaving the profession because of poor working condition and low wage. Enrollment in nursing school is not enough to supply the demand. Not enough faculty to teach, again because of the pay rate.
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