Nurses stopping for an accident scene - topic revisit - page 2
by Nascar nurse 3,657 Views | 14 Comments
This topic has been discussed to death with many different opinions on what to do. After my recent ordeal, I just want to thank those of you that choose to stop. Last night my 17 year old son was involved in a 3 car accident... Read More
- 3Dec 9, '12 by Esme12 Senior ModeratorQuote from MN-NurseI disagree......for I think when nurses are faced with the decision to stop or not to stop.....they actually do stop. I encourage that nurses be careful what they try to do at the scene and looking at Nascar's post these nurses calmed some very scared teenagers.....which is about the extent of what most nurses....even ED/EMS trained nurses can do little at an accident scene without equipment to immobilize.If you happen to follow any of the previous "Stop at an accident threads" you would know there was very, very little chance the ones that stopped were allnurses members.
Most of the time we roll up on the scene....police are already there.....but when you see something happen it is instinct to call for help and to keep everyone calm.
Nascar....as the Mommy of a budding driver ....my worse nightmare will be that phone call.....Mrs. Mommy .......this is Your Worst Nightmare Hospital ED.......your daughter has been in an accident....
I am so happy everything is essentially OK......I wish your son a speedy recovery and God Bless those compassionate nurses who took the time to comfort a scared teen.
Nascar....it's all going to be OK....
- 1Dec 9, '12 by azhiker96Quote from Mike A. Fungin RNHaving provided care at accident scenes I disagree with your assessment that I was just an additional hazard. At one I was able to stop bleeding from lacerations, perform an initial assessment of who was injured and later report that to EMS, and describe how the accident happened to police when they arrived. The way the vehicles spun after the accident made it difficult for anyone but a witness to know how it occurred.That's the problem. Nurses (unless they're former Fire/EMS/LE or part of a flight program) haven't got the training to be "safe" at an accident scene. You don't know what you don't know, unless you know it. How to stage your vehicle at an accident, how to approach a damaged vehicle, hazards that the vehicle itself presents, etc. I could go on. If you're not a prehospital provider, you have no place at the scene of an accident on a busy roadway. All you are is an additional hazard.
It's pretty much standard that states require witnesses to remain at the scene until police arrive. If I must stay anyway I might as well offer help within my level of expertise and scope of practice. Good Samaritan laws are based on the assumption that it's desirable to have people assist at an accident scene whether they are civilians, nurses, doctors, or trained Fire/EMS/LE. Of course, if I stop and someone says they don't want assistance I'll honor their wishes.
To the OP, I'm sure those nurses know your son appreciated their care. I'm glad they were there to help him.
- 2Dec 9, '12 by FlyingScotQuote from MN-NurseI think that's a pretty unfair over-generalization. In most of those threads the consensus was that beyond the ABC's there is little an RN without additional training can do from a medical treatment POV. I don't recall a majority saying they wouldn't even stop.If you happen to follow any of the previous "Stop at an accident threads" you would know there was very, very little chance the ones that stopped were allnurses members.
- 0Dec 10, '12 by hherrnQuote from FlyingScotKind of a funny way to look at it.I think that's a pretty unfair over-generalization. In most of those threads the consensus was that beyond the ABC's there is little an RN without additional training can do from a medical treatment POV. I don't recall a majority saying they wouldn't even stop.
Maintaining an airway, positioning to allow fore adequate breathing, and stopping a life threatening bleed seem pretty important.