Nurses rat on nurses - page 3

I have noticed a disturbing trend amoung nurses. I am new to nursing so maybe I am wrong. Nurses seem not to have any loyality to each other. I have seen many nurses sell out, tell on, rat out, or... Read More

  1. by   baseline
    Originally posted by OBNURSEHEATHER
    Uh huh.... what she said.
    Ditto. Yep. Absolutely. We are in the caring/healing business. Safety first, soothe egos later.
  2. by   Katnip
    What Stargazer said. Absolutely.
  3. by   babynurselsa
    If I saw a co-worker committing something dangerous, abusive or fraudulent I would have absolutely no qualms about intervening and reporting those actions.
    Now, what I think he is referring to (I may be wrong) is the propensity of some to go out of their way to make trouble for others. I have had co-workers that will run to the manger with the most asnine things jusst hopig for the thrill of seeing someone get called to the office. At one place I was a new employee, and not part of the gang. For 12 hours no body would speak to me. Not to answer a question, not conversationally, then they would go to the manger and tell her that I was too slow, and didn't know what I was doing. Well that was partly true since nobody would show me what or how to do anything.
    I have coworkers right now that feel that they have our manger in their pocket and just grin like a cat when they can stir a little sh** at someone elses expense. Sometimes I think myself that nursing attracts many individuals with a bit of a mean streak.
  4. by   HazeK
    Originally posted by rscarlatti
    Nurses seem not to have any loyality to each other. I have seen many nurses sell out, tell on, rat out, or whatever other description you would like to use.
    Dear 'new RN'...
    I've been in this business for a long, long time.

    I don't "rat out" on the nurse who uses the door restricted for MDs only.

    I don't "sell out" the nurse who drops the patient's Motrinon the floor, so she can get an extra dose out of the computerized system, because she herself is having trouble finishing her shift due to her own severe pain.
    BUT.....
    I do tattletale on the nurse who misses important scheduled med doses repeatedly, I do tattletale on the nurse who comes to work drunk, I do tattletale on the nurse who steals narcotices, I do tattletale on nurses who jepordize my patients' safety and well-being!

    I am a patient advocate! Do not hurt my patient, as that is where I draw the line to my loyalty to my peers. And all my peers and patients know it!

    otherwise, how could I sleep at night?
  5. by   baseline
    Originally posted by HazeK
    Dear 'new RN'...
    I've been in this business for a long, long time.

    I don't "rat out" on the nurse who uses the door restricted for MDs only.

    I don't "sell out" the nurse who drops the patient's Motrinon the floor, so she can get an extra dose out of the computerized system, because she herself is having trouble finishing her shift due to her own severe pain.
    BUT.....
    I do tattletale on the nurse who misses important scheduled med doses repeatedly, I do tattletale on the nurse who comes to work drunk, I do tattletale on the nurse who steals narcotices, I do tattletale on nurses who jepordize my patients' safety and well-being!

    I am a patient advocate! Do not hurt my patient, as that is where I draw the line to my loyalty to my peers. And all my peers and patients know it!

    otherwise, how could I sleep at night?
    To steal a line from Heather......BINGO!
  6. by   maizey
    HazeK. Right on post. That's what we should all be doing and not doing as patient advocates. If the patient's safety if effected than the nurse must be a tattletale. Do you really have a door marked for MD use only? What's that all about.
  7. by   Rock
    Originally posted by Nurse Ratched
    If by "not ratting on" you really mean "covering up for" then I hope you are never in the position of seeing another nurse do something inappropriate or harmful to a patient. It's not "us against them" as in staff versus management - it's "all of us FOR the patient."

    I agree !!


    Rock:angel2:
  8. by   l.rae
    Originally posted by Stargazer
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    Bottom line, if you're talking about penny-ante crap like "Jane left the pt's room a mess" or "Jane takes too many breaks" or something, then you're absolutely right, there is too much of that and it needs to stop. If you are talking about actually covering up for clinical incompetence/mistakes or criminal behavior like drug diversion, then that is just ********. Protecting the patient/public and the integrity of our own profession should be our first priorities.

    l have been seeing a lot of this at work, in fact, it is more typical of the crap l see than the more serious stuff here....l just don't understand.....l wish the original thread poster...(sorry l forgot), had specified....what makes nurses rat out other nurses for crap???.....l have never written up another nurse...although l have written up a resident or two....my philosohpy is..if l don't have the balls to confront the offender face to face, l don't have the luxury of writing up....l think that is hyppcritical....with the exceptions of unsafe care etc.......LR
  9. by   LasVegasRN
    I swear there must be a full moon or something....
  10. by   Teshiee
    It's amazing to me with nursing complaining they are all so busy yet have time to observe someone's bad nursing skills or act. There is a way of doing things I feel confront in a non judgemental, professional way. What I can't stand is when nurses who run behind the the nurse's back and tell on them without getting all the facts. It has been my experience that nurses who tell on each other are for petty things not so much of gross incompetence. Pick and choose your battles. I have been in nursing not long but really see how treacherous nurses can be to one another. I say if you are not sure about something read your policy manual that will cover your arse everytime.
    Last edit by Teshiee on Feb 18, '03
  11. by   l.rae
    Originally posted by LasVegasRN
    I swear there must be a full moon or something....




    huh????
  12. by   Teresa S.
    Fly nurse, I agree with you also. This is where nursing really falls down flat instead of being as "Professional" as it could and should be. I currently work at a place where everyone is great and pulls together, but I have worked in hospitals where the nurses are very clichish and you just can't break through...they dump more work on you and don't get up and do anything they could or should do, they make you feel like you are incompetent when there is something you don't know how to do, etc.....its really funny when a Dr comes along and asks a technical question and they don't know.....but you do! It is really very sad and juvenile.

    As far a "ratting" I would approach a nurse first if I felt she was doing something wrong. Lets face it, EVERYONE thinks they know the one right way to do something, and for many things there are different studies showing different results...so maybe she has a good rational for her action....then you can work together to find if there is a better way, and go from there. But if it is patient safety at risk, and they continue to be unsafe, it must be taken care of....this is one reason we have bad Drs, because they often do not police their own but cover up for each other.
  13. by   RNinICU
    Originally posted by Stargazer


    Bottom line, if you're talking about penny-ante crap like "Jane left the pt's room a mess" or "Jane takes too many breaks" or something, then you're absolutely right, there is too much of that and it needs to stop. If you are talking about actually covering up for clinical incompetence/mistakes or criminal behavior like drug diversion, then that is just ********. Protecting the patient/public and the integrity of our own profession should be our first priorities.
    Couldn't have put it any better than this.

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