Nurses crossing picket lines?? - page 7

My friend, who is an experienced travel RN, is thinking about taking a job where she will make $5,000 a week pay, but she has to go to another state and cross a picket line to get to work. I know a... Read More

  1. by   husker-nurse
    Boy, do I feel silly now, entered a comment into the wrong thread....... :imbar
    Last edit by husker-nurse on Jul 13, '04 : Reason: Senior Moment
  2. by   zenman
    Posted by SARN: I have worked in union and non-unions hospitals. I saw no discernable difference between the way nurses were treated or patient care managed. I did not join the union (exempt position) and saw all my co-workers paying out union dues essentially for nothing.
    Wonder how much money you would have if you invested the dues over 20- 30 years?
  3. by   teeituptom
    Quote from DC2RN
    Yes, but a nurse crossing the strike lines is a working nurse, and a working nurse is not a nurse playing golf, and a nurse not playing golf is an unhappy nurse.

    Therefore, a nurse crossing the picket line is an unhappy nurse.

    Sometimes you need to use the tools of logic and reason to figure some of this stuff out!!!
    But crossing the line for the big bucks has given me the money to play the big rich courses.

    Have you checked green fees at Pebble Beach and the Riviera

    have you checked green fees at Sawgrass, Bayhill, Doral.

    Gave you checked green fees at Pinehurst #2

    have you checked green fees at Muirfield


    therefore I am happy to work as I can have fun at famous courses also.
  4. by   DC2RN
    Quote from teeituptom
    But crossing the line for the big bucks has given me the money to play the big rich courses.

    Have you checked green fees at Pebble Beach and the Riviera

    have you checked green fees at Sawgrass, Bayhill, Doral.

    Gave you checked green fees at Pinehurst #2

    have you checked green fees at Muirfield


    therefore I am happy to work as I can have fun at famous courses also.
    Delayed gratification!! The key to success!

    Sometimes the tools of logic and reason fail, and you have to look deeper. You are a wise man, Tom.
  5. by   nyydreamer
    Quote from KacyLynnLPN
    My friend, who is an experienced travel RN, is thinking about taking a job where she will make $5,000 a week pay, but she has to go to another state and cross a picket line to get to work. I know a little bit about strikes and picket lines from my father, who has been a manager in a auto-parts factory for years. I can remember during strikes people would actually try to attack him physically, damage his car, and even threaten to kill him. Needless to say, I am pretty upset about my friend taking this position. I am very concerned for her safety. Does anyone know anything about nurses on strike? Can those strikes be as violent and dangerous as other union strikes?? I am trying to talk my friend out of going. Any insight/advice you could give me would be great. Thanks.
    BOO to anyone who crosses a nursing picket line - we are trying so hard to earn a fair wage, obtain better working conditions and to earn the respect we so deserve - why would anyone in our profession do something which would undermine our goals - this is why nursing is "an endangered species" - not enough money, not enough respect, and not enough of us to go around - I urge you to talk to your friend and try to persuade him/her to stop this course of action - together we're strong!!!!!!!!!!!
  6. by   RedmondRN
    Quote from KacyLynnLPN
    My friend, who is an experienced travel RN, is thinking about taking a job where she will make $5,000 a week pay, but she has to go to another state and cross a picket line to get to work. I know a little bit about strikes and picket lines from my father, who has been a manager in a auto-parts factory for years. I can remember during strikes people would actually try to attack him physically, damage his car, and even threaten to kill him. Needless to say, I am pretty upset about my friend taking this position. I am very concerned for her safety. Does anyone know anything about nurses on strike? Can those strikes be as violent and dangerous as other union strikes?? I am trying to talk my friend out of going. Any insight/advice you could give me would be great. Thanks.
    It's nice to have a caring friend, but as a general rule strikes held by Teamsters and such are a much different breed of strike than those held by professionals such as healthcare workers. I'm not saying it absolutely wouldn't get rough, you know, what they say about "one bad apple" but I worked for an HMO that went on strike. I crossed the picket line and things were fine for the most part. I commend your RN friend for doing what she was trained to do, that being "taking care of patients".
  7. by   teeituptom
    Quote from nyydreamer
    BOO to anyone who crosses a nursing picket line - we are trying so hard to earn a fair wage, obtain better working conditions and to earn the respect we so deserve - why would anyone in our profession do something which would undermine our goals - this is why nursing is "an endangered species" - not enough money, not enough respect, and not enough of us to go around - I urge you to talk to your friend and try to persuade him/her to stop this course of action - together we're strong!!!!!!!!!!!


    Yes Im stronger getting top dollar money for crossing. pays for the top dollar golf courses I like.
  8. by   RedmondRN
    Quote from fergus51
    I have never heard of scab nurses being attacked. I would hope her own ethics would guide her decision in this matter. I would be more worried about the environment INSIDE the hospital (there has to be a reason staff nurses would take the drastic action of striking and I don't think it's safe to work with a large number of agency nurses who are unfamiliar with the hospital).
    I've worked as a traveler for almost four years now. There have been many times when it has been the traveler that has all but completely staffed the unit. More times than not, that Unit runs efficiently. I find that it is not just agency nurses that can staff the place. Our goal is to get the patient to a degree of wellness so that they can be discharged; striking nurses do not appear to have that common goal. If they want a better wage, be agency or traveler! As usual, their loss is our gain. The work has to get done by someone and we are their to take up the slack. I don't believe the patients would call the nurses that cross the picket lines "scabs".
  9. by   RedmondRN
    Quote from husker-nurse
    The thoughts expressed in the many posts to this thread prove one thing; that there are many Nurses out there fueled with passion. Some are quite eloquent with words and some only expressing their views, whichever they may be. We appear to be in our profession for the good of the patient, and not for the almighty $$$! Do you see how strong we could be if we put our collective intelligence together for the greater good? Let the hospitals who employ us see that what we ask for is for the good of our patients; for the most part, a HAPPY Nurse is a GOOD Nurse!
    Amen to that!
  10. by   NRSKarenRN
    from revolution magazine july-august. 2001: a must read
    http://www.revolutionmag.com/

    who you gonna call?

    busting the union-busters.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jul 19, '04
  11. by   RedmondRN
    Quote from nrskarenrn
    from revolution magazine july-august. 2001: a must read
    http://www.revolutionmag.com/

    who you gonna call?

    busting the union-busters.
    i guess as a traveler, the nurses that i've worked with over the past four years have appreciated the complexity of the units. sure the tasks are sometimes difficult at hand to complete. that's where prioritizing is of the utmost importance. even the mds understand that we are not superhuman nurses. however, i have never had a problem asking for assistance when i needed an extra hand. perhaps that's how team players really learn to develop. as i see it the main goal is to complete the tasks for that particular shift, if you have extra time, offer assistance, if you are falling behind, ask for assistance. it has always worked for me, and i feel that it reflects on the unit as a whole, that in a pinch we band together and get the task done. i truly do not see how unionizing does anything but cause animosity between management, patients, and staff members. i've been in involved in my own personal round with a strike through an hmo. it lasted three weeks and they got no where fast. many of the nurses looked at it as a time to go on vacation with the family. how pathetic is that! i crossed the picket line after two days because of the embarrassment of my association with such a group. i would also cross the picket line again as a traveler if nurses went on strike in another state, not strictly because of the money to be had, but because of my standards for my practice as a nurse as well as my values as a person. in my opinion, healthcare is no place for unions.
    hope you can appreciate where i'm coming from as i appreciate your stance as well.
  12. by   CHATSDALE
    i have no respect for people who cross picket lines
  13. by   RedmondRN
    Quote from CHATSDALE
    i have no respect for people who cross picket lines
    I respect your opinion...

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