Nurses children and vaccinations, how do you feel? - page 6

I am on another forum that is very anti-vaccinations for children (or anyone for that matter), and it got me thinking how do nurses and other healthcare workers feel about vaccinations and... Read More

  1. by   Jo Dirt
    Quote from hollyvk
    Something to think about--would the other species that we cohabitate this world with be better off if we were exterminated?

    HollyVK RN, BSN, JD
    I know I would choose to be exterminated before I would join the military.

    The world will go on whether we are here or not.
  2. by   KellNY
    Another antivax (for my family!) nurse here! I got whatever was required as a child, but nothing once I started making my own decisions. For the record, I have lost my immunity to Rubella and my measles is equivocal. My son, unfortunately, was partially vaxed but will be receiving nothing further, and my future children will not be getting vaxed.

    There was a poster who wrongly assumed that non-vaxed children were probably home schooled. This is not so. My son is 7 (will be 8 next month) in 2nd grade at public school--we filled out an exemption form. I'd like to homeschool him, but being a single mom, that's not possible right now. Off topic.

    No one I've known has ever had their children get sick and gotten mad at their doc for not preventing it or doing something about it. Ever. How rediculous! If anything, most people I know are irked at the peds because they CAN'T get teir kids infected with chicken pox (present company included), or measles or mumps. In fact, Chicken Pox Parties are very common amongst anti-vaxers, with some people driving hours to attend an outbreak.

    Garden Dove--thank you for saving me lots of time and typing exactly what I was thinking! Big time heretic here.

    I'm also very weary of antibiotics for minor infection (esp. those that are most likely viral-ie ear infections). My son gets nursed back to health with a warm blanket, some tea, maybe some kiddie herbal supplements, and the best nutrition he can comfortably tolerate. It's worked very well thus far. No one here said to go to a SICU to a Pt with multi-system involvement with a high fever and use cold cloths. That's just silly. (Besides, the only cold I advocate using on a feverish person who is not seriously ill would be a cool damp cloth to the forehead--as a comfort measure, not a way to decrease the fever)
  3. by   Jo Dirt
    Quote from KellNY
    Another antivax (for my family!) nurse here! I got whatever was required as a child, but nothing once I started making my own decisions. For the record, I have lost my immunity to Rubella and my measles is equivocal. My son, unfortunately, was partially vaxed but will be receiving nothing further, and my future children will not be getting vaxed.

    There was a poster who wrongly assumed that non-vaxed children were probably home schooled. This is not so. My son is 7 (will be 8 next month) in 2nd grade at public school--we filled out an exemption form. I'd like to homeschool him, but being a single mom, that's not possible right now. Off topic.

    No one I've known has ever had their children get sick and gotten mad at their doc for not preventing it or doing something about it. Ever. How rediculous! If anything, most people I know are irked at the peds because they CAN'T get teir kids infected with chicken pox (present company included), or measles or mumps. In fact, Chicken Pox Parties are very common amongst anti-vaxers, with some people driving hours to attend an outbreak.

    Garden Dove--thank you for saving me lots of time and typing exactly what I was thinking! Big time heretic here.
    My kids go to public school, too.

    Something really funny happened yesterday. Well, my 82 y/o father-in-law has a physical therapist who has started coming to see him (the old man lives next door in a trailer). My husband went to the trailer when he was there, and the PT says he saw my thinktwice.com bumper sticker and can't believe he has found others around here who feel like he and his wife feel about vaccinations (he has two daughters). He then started talking about sheeple and all that, but it was funny. So, I guess we made a friend.

    I love how pro-vaxers always assume people who choose not to vaccinate are ill-informed or stupid. And not that it proves a point one way or another, but this reminded me of my favorite person and musician, Neil Young, who was vaccinated against polio yet he contracted it when he was a little boy. He had to reteach himself how to walk, he is emaciated from the disease and I imagine polio was partly responsible for the violent seizures he has, now. Maybe he took the live vaccine, I don't know. But in his case he might have been better off not having a vaccine at all.
  4. by   Lucyinthesky
    I am not a nurse yet but I am a mother of three. I have had them all vaccinated, I breastfed, and used common sense when they were sick to not push meds down their throat for every little symptom. My oldest daughter is nine years old and never had an antibiotic (the other two unfortunately did have a few infections that needed treated).

    I know I am taking some risks with vaccinations but I believe for the most part it is better than the alternative. No matter the situation there are always going to be pros and cons and I personally feel vaccines have more benefits than potential harm. Unfortunately, there are people who have had bad side effects but I still believe the good outweighs the bad. My only problem with non-vaccinators is I feel like they are taking the easy way out. Those of us who vaccinate take the risks that go along with vaccines but are helping to stop the spread of some horrific, preventable diseases while others just suck up this benefit by standing idly by. I do believe it should be their choice to partake or not, nobody should be forced into anything, but again I think they are taking the easy way out while others do the work.
  5. by   GardenDove
    Wow, this is great. I'm very hush hush about this at work. Everyone knows about my 6 homebirths, but only one nurse whom I totally trust knows my opinion about vaccines.
  6. by   Jo Dirt
    Quote from GardenDove
    Wow, this is great. I'm very hush hush about this at work. Everyone knows about my 6 homebirths, but only one nurse whom I totally trust knows my opinion about vaccines.
    Have you ever had people say, you're a NURSE and you don't vaccinate your children??? You should know better!!!

    Oh, for pity's sake.
  7. by   mercyteapot
    What forum are you on that is so anti-healthcare workers? I've heard plenty of rancor about vaccines, but I wasn't aware that there were people out there who oppose our entire profession on principle. Spying for ''the man''???? Whatever could they mean?
  8. by   GooeyRN
    Quote from mercyteapot
    What forum are you on that is so anti-healthcare workers? I've heard plenty of rancor about vaccines, but I wasn't aware that there were people out there who oppose our entire profession on principle.
    Mothering.com is like that. Its a Natural Family Living community. They are generally against medications, vax's, circ, clorox, and anything not "natural". Many moms there homebirth, and many never take their children for check-ups. There is a forum for the case against vaccination.
  9. by   General E. Speaking, RN
    Quote from GooeyRN
    Mothering.com is like that. Its a Natural Family Living community. They are generally against medications, vax's, circ, clorox, and anything not "natural". Many moms there homebirth, and many never take their children for check-ups. There is a forum for the case against vaccination.
    Sounds like that family on Wife Swap. Anyone see it?
  10. by   Danish
    Im not a nurse, just a nursing student, but I wanted to share my opinion. When my daughter was a baby and getting her vaccinations so often I researched it a little and found a few studies connecting autism and vaccines. I talked with my pediatrician (who I absolutly trust and believe to be competent) that it is being researched that some of the preservatives in the combination vaccines (MMR) might be linked to autism. She believed that they were safe and I gave the drugs. She did, however, say that If if preferred, she could give all the shots seperately. I dont think my daughter would have liked that Anyways, I have not heard anything to justify the claim and my daughter, now 7 is just fine. I do appreciate those who research and make an informed choice to do otherwise...I just thought the pros outweighed the cons.
  11. by   2curlygirls
    Gooey, I recognize you from MDC! I see you on the nurses "tribe". MDC is a very interesting place. I feel like the soggiest person on there with my hospital birth and vaccination compliance. Oh well, at least I can participate in the cloth diapering,co-sleeping, BF'ing discussions.
  12. by   GooeyRN
    Quote from 2curlygirls
    Gooey, I recognize you from MDC! I see you on the nurses "tribe". MDC is a very interesting place. I feel like the soggiest person on there with my hospital birth and vaccination compliance. Oh well, at least I can participate in the cloth diapering,co-sleeping, BF'ing discussions.
    I am a bit "soggy" too. We selectively/delay vax. I also had a hospital birth. I am very into the AP part, but the NFL parts I am pretty challanged. Its nice to see you over here, too! Its does get me pretty mad sometimes over there, all of the threads about the horrible incompetent doctors and nurses.
  13. by   andrea05
    for those of you who say you arent going to get your daughters the gardisil vaccine (for hpv) since you say it is preventable: first of all men cannot be tested for hpv, so there will be no way to know if your partner has it. second of all, you dont have to have sex to get it, hpv is a virus that is shed from the skin. all you need to do is have skin to skin contact, you dont have to go "all the way" to get it, and condoms, while a good barrier for other stds, will not protect you from this. who knows what your child is going to do, who knows what their partner will do. you dont have to be promiscuous to get hpv, most people will come in contact with the virus and have no symptoms, others are not so lucky and will develop warts, or worse precancerous changes in the cervix.
    i was just begining to get the series of shots when i found i have the cervical cancer causing hpv type. i am in a long term commited relationship. there is no way to trace where i got it since the incubation period is so long. i had the procedure to remove the portion of my cervix that was affected. now i only wish that i could have been vaccinated before i ever had sex. it is a scary prospect to think about getting cancer or having my chances of having children gone at such a young age. and i am so lucky i went in for my yearly appointment and they caught this in time.
    so the introduction of this vaccine makes me hopeful that someday no other girl will have to go through the pain of having this. it is embarrassing to have an std. especially when you arent in a "high risk group". it is an invasive thing to have someone cut out a part of you. and there are so many women out there who end up with much worse than me, i know. so i just really wish this stigma of giving a child a vaccination for an std would wear off, you are vaccinating against cancer. it is not saying it is ok for them to sleep around, there are other consequences to sex besides hpv. it is just trying to protect them.

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