Nurses are Pathetic!! - page 4

I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are... Read More

  1. by   bluesky
    Quote from lorster
    And I am as guilty as the rest but I am the traveler and had to be silent.
    I am a traveler too. Honestly, I definitely would have spoken up. I wouldn't have that much to lose... just find another contract.
  2. by   RNHawaii34
    I am a new nurse, I just hope I will not end up feeling like how you feel right now. I refused to be called "pathetic" though. If I don't like nursing, I should have kept my stripper job......( Joking! )
  3. by   rierie
    I wrote this email and sent out to all my nurse friends that would most likely understand. I was and still am new to ped's but I have recently very much considered quitting my job to attend school full time. I would have to take out massive loans to get it done but with the work situation and as well as the hostility that I have recently felt between nurses and physicians I have had as much as I can take with out having a serious meltdown. I would love anyone's opinion. And FYI: I am an LVN with 10+years of hospital adult care setting so I know it's not all peaches and cream but it is definately time for change to come the this wonderful profession.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Mar 12, '07 : Reason: email content inflammatory and not useful/contributory to thread
  4. by   rierie
    Ok so how do you go about getting one of those stripper jobs again...? LOL
  5. by   Cattitude
    Quote from anne74
    op -
    unfortunately, there are too many martyrs in our field who ruin our chances for organizing and getting what we deserve. the way i've handled it individually, is i quit my last job (in which i lost almost 20 lbs from not eating and stress), and switched to a new unit with better treatment. i may not be organzing a union or anything, but i spoke loudly when i left and my old unit lost money to replace me. that's a simple thing that anyone can do.

    you're really a better nurse - and a better person - if you take care of yourself first. the positive treatment you demand for yourself then trickles down to your patients.
    oh yes, the martyrs . right now, i am trying desperately to get the nurses in our sattelite office paid time for charting at home on our own time. typically, nurses have always charted on their own time.
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    [color=#483d8b]it's a very uphill battle because for many years nurses in the main branch continue to donate their own time. i won't do it. i simply refuse and it makes me look like the complainer, the "bad" one. sigh.

    Quote from gromit
    well, i don't do it simply because it pays well or at least better than most -but by that same token, i'm not "called" to it, either. i like being an rn, but there was no religious experience that called me to it anymore than i had a calling to ride motorcycles -well, maybe i did as far as bikes are concerned but seriously, if i weren't getting paid to do my job, i certainly wouldn't be doing it. i'm no mother theresa -and i'm not a male florence nightingale, either.
    missionaries are "called". i was hired.
    amen!!! ok, yea i like my career most of the time but i was not "called" to it (what the heck does that mean anyway?). i thought about a career choice an i went for it. oh yes, i do want and need my pay also. i wouldn't be volunteering to do this job, sorry.
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    [color=#483d8b]i understand the op's frustration. nursing for the most part is not that cohesive. we could have a lot more if it were. better pay, better benefits, more respect.
    [color=#483d8b]now we have more nurses leaving bedside and from reading these boards it seems we have a lot of frazzled newbies.
    [color=#483d8b]but is it always like this? is this just a cycle that repeats itself? and are there any real solutions?
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  6. by   nickola
    I have to admit I've had days where I've felt that way- fortunately I work w/a great bunch of nurses & we vent to each other & talk things out when there are issues. I have thought many times of leaving the profession, especially on a day when you have done your best for a patient & they don't appreciate anything. Doctors, overall I've come to realize can be a moody bunch- but for the most part we all get along. I do believe there is a certain amount of dysfunction in our profession- a helping profession. The bottom line is I love what I do. There will always be THOSE days when it feels like a thankless job!! You sound like you need a hug and a vacation!! Learn to nurture & take care of yourself first. I wish you the best!!
    Last edit by nickola on Mar 12, '07
  7. by   Tweety
    Part of the solution lies with us as individuals. We get as much crap as we are willing to take. Sometimes we get as much crap as we give.

    I've had a relatively good career, decent pay, doctors treating me well, not too much backstabbing, etc. I've had my days for sure, but not ready to judge the entire profession and leave it. In fact I'm in school now to educate the next generation.
  8. by   Tweety
    Quote from lorster
    I watched a doctor chew out a poor new grad the other morning in front of the entire shift change. I guess he does this frequently. Why do we put up with this? Why do we not band together and put a stop to this crap? He chewed her out because the blood glucose was not on the computer yet as the glucometer had not been docked. This is part of what is wrong. This is one small example. This is what I hate. We all stood around and allowed him to carry on and reduce her to tears. And I am as guilty as the rest but I am the traveler and had to be silent.


    I hate that kind of stuff too. Why did you have to be silent just because your a traveler.


    However, sometimes we do have to let others battle their own battles and choose our own. You should perhaps talk her and help to not take that in the future. Is it an isolated incident or do all the doctors treat all of the nurses this way?
  9. by   JentheRN05
    WoW I am not here for a few days and the proverbial S@!T hits the fan.

    I can honestly say I felt like Lorster about 9 months out of school. Literally just like Lorster. By 1 year I was working for about the same pay as a secretary at most places because I quit the hospital and took an office job. Needless to say, office pay just doesn't pay the bills (but the stress is less - at least is was for me). BUT look at me now. I have a job where I take care of 3 little old ladies in my hometown (HIPAA doesn't apply there) I could walk to work (mind you I live at least 1 hour from the largest city - where I burned some pretty big bridges). Last week, this job said "you can work no more than 5 hours a week - that's what the board says" Okay, so guess what. Now I'm looking at traveling getting back into the very same atmosphere that drove me out of the hospital in the first place. For what you ask? Money. I love taking care of people, I love being a nurse. I'm proud to call myself RN, and am in the process of trying to get my BSN and hopefully in the end my FNP. Why would I put myself through all this schooling for the crap you put up with? Because in the end, when I can sign FNP behind my name I will be the one that the nurses answer to. I sit here now, stating I will know what it is like being a hospital nurse, and I WILL treat you with the same respect that you treat me and your patients.
    When I left the hospital I was still a 'new' grad - I practically eliminated all options of working in that particular 1 hospital town where all the doctors work through the hospital or their rival. But the conditions I was working in sucked. I was a nervous wreak. Every single day before I had to go to work I was violently ill. Not to mention the entire (yes literally) ENTIRE time I was working in the hospital I was sick. I HAD to work sick, because if I was to take off because I was sick well, I may as well not have been working. My stress level was so high and out of control that I would break down in tears getting report knowing I'd have to go out on the floor and take care of patients who deserved more than I could give because my workload was so heavy. Cry because I am exhausted giving my all and it never being enough, and cry because of back stabbing nurses who are stupid enough to outright lie about me and say I didn't do something for a patient (which lead to a reprimand on false pretenses) and because of that incident I quit right then, right there. Whoever told that lie was likely working that night and had to take on my load because I left. Period.
    So Lorster, I know how you feel. I also feel that when I work as a nurse, my life revolves around that patient for the few minutes that I get to see them. They are my focus. But here I sit, looking for another job. *so much for standing up for myself* sure I got out of those conditions, but look what it has gotten me. I can honestly say though that since I haven't had a decent paying job I have hit a serious depression. One I can't seem to break free of. I don't know what else to say. I don't even know if this made sense. I hope some nurses out there have it better, and some day I hope to have it better too.
  10. by   Tweety
    I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion.
    As a note, mainly to others who may be visiting this forum, we do vent a lot of our concerns here at Allnurses and it is skewed towards the negative side of nursing for sure.

    However, reading hundreads of threads and keeping things in perspective the negative threads and posts are far outnumbered by the positive and neutral posts.

    Coming to the conclusion that nurses and the nursing profession is pathetic based on a bulletin board is not a good presumption to make in my opinion. I do however get discouraged and wonder sometimes when I read the posts here.

    Obviously you're entitled to you own opinion and experiences and please feel free to express them. That's what we're here for. I appreciate your post. Nursing isn't pleasant and there are definately problems for sure.
    Last edit by Tweety on Mar 12, '07
  11. by   lorster
    Quote from Tweety
    As a note, mainly to others who may be visiting this forum, we do vent a lot of our concerns here at Allnurses and it is skewed towards the negative side of nursing for sure.

    However, reading hundreads of threads and keeping things in perspective the negative threads and posts are far outnumbered by the positive and neutral posts.

    Coming to the conclusion that nurses and the nursing profession is pathetic based on a bulletin board is not a good presumption to make in my opinion. I do however get discouraged and wonder sometimes when I read the posts here.

    Obviously you're entitled to you own opinion and experiences and please feel free to express them. That's what we're here for. I appreciate your post. Nursing isn't pleasant and there are definately problems for sure.
    Ok Tweety, I will change my wording, we are dysfunctional and codependent not to mention masochistic. Does that fit better? Look that up, it best describes nurses who put up with the crap we do. It is no longer about patient care, it is about all the steps you have to go through to accomplish that care. And traveling to another hospital will not help if it is the hospital you are trying to get away from. I live in a rural area so don't have a lot of choices out there so I go 140 miles one way. The travel hospital is so set on making sure the patient gets charged for every single item (yes, bandaids are an individual charge item) that the nurses spend all day scanning meds and bands and logging on and off the computers that are down much of the time because they are old and slow and some don't work and there are not enough but you cannot do anything with the patient, until you scan them. At least I'll be proficient at that when I get to Walmart. I realy don't hate this profession, just the way we do it. I have been doing this for 18 years and I've developed a routine and I'm competent at my job but I want nurses to have more autonomy. That doesn't happen here and I'm jealous of nurses who do because they work in places that allow that through policy. We can't put calmoseptine on someones butt without an order. You would think in 2007, that would be a comfort or clinical decision. Dr Offices pay half as much but talking to the nurses there, the chaos and job satisfaction are about the same for half the money, why bother.
  12. by   Gennaver
    Quote from lorster
    I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion.
    ... Well, the answer is never because we are not a solid group. We have no autonomy or solidarity because we are a weak profession.

    ... We are understaffed, overworked, pushed to the breaking point. But yet, the martyr instinct kicks in, we get up and go back and endure more of the same. When is enough, enough? ...
    SmilingBlueEyes had the better descriptive, Apathy.

    Your leaving is apathy.

    If you stay and speak out, rather than berate yourself andyour fellow nurses and tell them they deserve what they get, then maybe you can be a part of the "professionalistic consciousness raising". Sorry but that was the phrase that fit right now.

    Gen-the line about air masks on a plane...putting one on yourself first before you help another...lets mask up!
  13. by   lorster
    Apathy is a good way to state this too but I have not lost passion for nursing, just the whole process that makes it hard to do my job. Yes, we need to adapt to change because health care and its delivery are changing but I cannot be in 7 rooms at one time. that is how many surgical patients I had to myself last week. My care greatly lacked and I went home feeling inadequate to do my job. This is not what I want to do for the next 20 years before I retire. And maybe some of you enjoy 7 surgicals, but I don't. It is not a safe practice but the hospital does not seem to care. I want to come home content that I did someone some good. My licence is hanging out the window at this travel hospital and I dread going back. I regret leaving my old hospital because at least working conditions are safe here.

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