Nurses are Pathetic!! - page 14

I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are... Read More

  1. by   Gromit
    RNLULULABAMBA -where do you live and work?? I want to work there!
    My place isn't bad. Has excellent healthcare plans (and I sure put it to the test last year and so far this year -newly diagnosed cardiomyopathy, all the tests that brings (and a week in the hospital), and recently back in the hospital for a few days and a defibrillator. -ugh. As long as the stay and procedures are done 'in house' we have no co-pay. Ironic really, since just before all this happened, I was contemplating dropping a large chunk of the plan (I was one of those who literally never got sick -then a virus tagged my heart and damaged it -bad luck. )
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    I don't think there are enough males in nursing to say that there is a pattern of abuse where males aren't abused as much as females. Male nurses are still a rather small statistical reality. COMMON SENSE would dicatate that males would be less likely to be abused, but common sense is rarely common. I'm a male, and have taken gruff from docs as well as other nurses -nobody is immune in ANY field of work. But out of all of the fields I've worked in, counting all the environments, nursing is by far the most preferable and the most profitable (if you're willing to work). I'm here for the long haul.
    If it changes for the worst (as some doom-sayers keep harping) then I've got my qualifications for other fields, and will go where the money is After all, this isn't a hobby, its my livelyhood. The bonus is that I enjoy it. No job is perfect, but this one has far more 'pros' than 'cons'.
  2. by   teeituptom
    Quote from anne74
    You are an "isolated instance" if you don't notice there's a pattern here. Is your perspective soley from nursing, or do you have other work experiences in other industries to compare?

    I noticed abuse from other nurses, and the system itself, as early as nursing school, and I've noticed it even more so in the "real world". I haven't been a nurse for many years, but I've worked in other industries before I became a nurse - and believe me, I've been shocked at what I've seen. I can't believe how we are expected to carry so much responsibility, so much knowledge, and yet we're treated so poorly.

    I don't receive much abuse from doctors, but merely the unrealistic, unfair expectations that are imposed on us on a daily basis are above and beyond most other professions. I have since removed myself from a bad work environment, and I'm happy now, but I really feel for floor nurses and others who have high acuity, high pt ratio.

    So, it's great you have many years of nursing experience, but do you feel it has perhaps skewed your view of acceptable working conditions? No job is perfect, but there really is a problem in nursing.
    I certainly dont feel isolated, old at times. ok older more often.

    How long have you been a nurse

    Sounds like you really arent happy though

    True I would never be a floor nurse, I aint that type.

    I thrive on high acuity and busy busy, makes me feel alive

    Is my view skewed or screwed up or is it just plain wierd. Or do I just have a well developed coping system to life in general. Nothing upsets me other than working on a day so beautifull that I should be out golfing instead.

    I really dont see any real problems in nursing, but your right nothing is perfect, except maybe Tiger Woods Golf Swing.

    I just dont see all these problems in nursing, But I like myself and what I do. Actually Very Simple Just Like GWB
  3. by   caliotter3
    Tiger hit the ball into the water twice yesterday! What is the world coming to!
  4. by   markdanurse
    Let's not attack the original poster of "nurses are pathetic" message. Let's be honest, we are. We do take abuse. We are mistreated. We are underpaid. I joke with people and tell them I had to go to college to be treated like dirt. I used to work as a stocker/cashier for Fry's Food and Drug. If a customer mistreated me, they were asked to leave. In an 8 hour shift, I was given two 15 minute breaks and a 30 minute lunch break. If a manager mistreated an employee in front of a customer, he was taken upstairs to a private office, talked to, and then written up. Our benefits were cheap and wonderful. The company put aside 50 cents out of every dollar an employee earned and put it towards a 20 year retirement. We were protected by a UNION called UFCW Local 99. The UNION represented the workers. The UNION made sure we had retirement, affordable and excellent benefits, good pay, and wonderful working conditions. I left that job to become a nurse. Yup. Nurses have NO IDEA how other jobs treat their people because many of them haven't done much else in the way of work, especially corporate or union work. Now how is it that a Cashier/Stocker with a high school education or less can have such a great opportunity but nurses do not? Answer: Nurses are pathetic. Nurses have not learned how to get along, like we did in kindergarten and grade school, so that they could demand things like a real pension plan (not a 401K), affordable and excellent benefits, safe patient ratios, actual breaks throughout a 12 hour day, and respect from managers and physicians who are held accountable for their behavior. Can you imagine a physician or manager being told,"If you don't start treating our staff with respect or dignity, we will revoke your privileges at this hospital or fire you?" It is possible, but nurses will not do it.

    You may all attack me as much as you want. Deep down, you have all felt the way the original poster did, and using synonyms like "apathetic", "codependent" or "weak" really doesn't cut it. Pathetic is a correct term. I tried to start a union once, but the nurse "rats" ran to management and "told on me" like kindergartners do, and I was asked to resign, which ultimately I did. They griped every day for a year about the deplorable working conditions, so I offered a solution. And what did they do? They did nothing as usual, except get me "fired" so-to-speak.

    Band together, and the hospitals will have little choice but to meet your demands. Keep doing what you are doing as a profession...oops, I meant occupation, and everything will remain the same. Including the term "occupation"...because we do not behave as true professionals do.
  5. by   Emma333
    Nurses aren't pathetic, they're tired. They work themselves to the bone for others and have nothing left over for themselves, individually AND collectively. But anybody who can write such an ... energetic post should make a great campaigner for nursing. Right???
  6. by   Emma333
    PS great to see so many nurses sticking up for nursing on this thread!!!
  7. by   anne74
    Quote from teeituptom
    I certainly dont feel isolated, old at times. ok older more often.

    How long have you been a nurse

    Sounds like you really arent happy though

    True I would never be a floor nurse, I aint that type.

    I thrive on high acuity and busy busy, makes me feel alive

    Is my view skewed or screwed up or is it just plain wierd. Or do I just have a well developed coping system to life in general. Nothing upsets me other than working on a day so beautifull that I should be out golfing instead.


    I really dont see any real problems in nursing, but your right nothing is perfect, except maybe Tiger Woods Golf Swing.

    I just dont see all these problems in nursing, But I like myself and what I do. Actually Very Simple Just Like GWB

    For my first nursing job I never got a break or ate lunch (and lost 17 lbs within 6 months); I was forced to work swing shifts, often with only 24 hours in between to switch between day/night shifts - ( asked to at least work straight nights, but was denied.) I was totally a zombie. My preceptor berated me, I got harrassed and called to "the principals office" (i.e. the manager) because I didn't swipe my badge correctly, charge nurses told my manager I wasn't ready to be a nurse yet (because I didn't fax a sheet to the admissions office, even though the process had never been shown to me before.)

    And salary? Took a $15,000/yr pay cut from my old job, and my student loans from nursing school are $400 a month. Benefits? My health insurance from the hospital covers half of what my insurance from my old job did - yet as a nurse I'm exposed daily to infectous diseases and lifting people 3 times my weight. This is not right! As a nurse, I have so much more responsibility - I have people's lives in my hand. And I was better compensated when I helped a company sell products?

    I like being busy and mentally challenged, but too many times nurses are put into situations that are unrealistic and unsafe. I think my coping skills are amazing because I've survived and haven't quit nursing yet. Already several of my nursing school classmates have left nursing. There's a study somewhere that shows that 1/3 of all new nurses leave their job within one year - either to change jobs or leave nursing altogether. What other profession has that poor of a turnover?

    Even if you've personally had a good experience, you have to admit that many other nurses are being taken advantage of. My mom is a retired RN, and she feels sad at how the profession has changed. I've managed to carve out a niche for myself where I like what I do now, but many, many other nurses are miserable. It's very sad.
  8. by   nursemike
    I'm firmly convinced that my employer wants me to be a happy and productive employee. In general, they make a reasonable effort to keep me happy, and I make a reasonable effort to be productive. It's not a perfect arrangement, but it works reasonably well.
  9. by   RN BSN 2009
    Quote from anne74
    For my first nursing job I never got a break or ate lunch (and lost 17 lbs within 6 months); I was forced to work swing shifts, often with only 24 hours in between to switch between day/night shifts - ( asked to at least work straight nights, but was denied.) I was totally a zombie. My preceptor berated me, I got harrassed and called to "the principals office" (i.e. the manager) because I didn't swipe my badge correctly, charge nurses told my manager I wasn't ready to be a nurse yet (because I didn't fax a sheet to the admissions office, even though the process had never been shown to me before.)

    And salary? Took a $15,000/yr pay cut from my old job, and my student loans from nursing school are $400 a month. Benefits? My health insurance from the hospital covers half of what my insurance from my old job did - yet as a nurse I'm exposed daily to infectous diseases and lifting people 3 times my weight. This is not right! As a nurse, I have so much more responsibility - I have people's lives in my hand. And I was better compensated when I helped a company sell products?

    I like being busy and mentally challenged, but too many times nurses are put into situations that are unrealistic and unsafe. I think my coping skills are amazing because I've survived and haven't quit nursing yet. Already several of my nursing school classmates have left nursing. There's a study somewhere that shows that 1/3 of all new nurses leave their job within one year - either to change jobs or leave nursing altogether. What other profession has that poor of a turnover?

    Even if you've personally had a good experience, you have to admit that many other nurses are being taken advantage of. My mom is a retired RN, and she feels sad at how the profession has changed. I've managed to carve out a niche for myself where I like what I do now, but many, many other nurses are miserable. It's very sad.
    Those are really sad numbers, it's bad that the degree is worked hard for tooth and nail to be just given up...
  10. by   smilin_RN
    the only thing I can say without condemnation is that if you feel this way then go ahead and get out of nursing, yes there is a nursing shortage but if the compassion, and care for patients is gone, then upright and breathing is not enough.
    Walmart isn't great, I understand because I worked there before I went to school. but I'd rather have you checking me out than taking care of my loved one in the hospital in this state of mind.
    more power to you!!
    hope you feel better
    serena
  11. by   Woodenpug
    Sry, I've had other things to do than follow this thread. If you do nursing for the money or a "pat on the back." You have other opportunities. Please use the skills you have to find another profession.
    I do not mean that things are perfect.
    I love nursing!
    Yes, it is a calling. That does not mean a 'religious' experience, but a job best left for people who actually like other people more than money.
  12. by   Sabby_NC
    Lorster I think you need to change your own attitude. I just pray you do not work or speak in the manner that your post was typed.
    You sound so angry. Yes we can have rotten days but they do go away.
    I have the feeling more has happened to you than you have enlightened us with.
    I wish you well in what ever you choose but I don't think nursing is for you.
    You seem to have lost your caring heart.
  13. by   chickenlegs999
    My God!You really need to sit and chill!Focus on what you want and deliver.We all have to put up with these things.In Blighty we too are used and abused but where else would you get such satisfaction from helping people?Give respect and get respect-let those that annoy you know and deal with them in a professional manner.As an individual you get out what you put in...Be Cool!
    Chistabel

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