Nurse Impersonators - page 3

:( Am I the only one who resents the "nurse impersonators" who abound in the health care field? Everyone who works at a doctor's office or in a hospital wears scrubs and seems to pass... Read More

  1. by   Cascadians
    We worked in a hospital where everybody was instructed to wear scrubs. Housekeeping got a "uniform" allowance and those individuals purchased some of the coolest scrubs from S.C.R.U.B.S. Agency and Travellers wore scrubs. Even transport wore scrubs. Everybody had a prominent ID tag hung on a bead necklace. But of course the pts / families had no idea what was what. When asked to do a task one was not qualified / hired for, one would say: You have to contact the Drs / RNs / RTs / PTs / Housekeeping / LabTechs etc for that. Everybody was too busy for deliberate impersonation No way anybody was willing to take on anything extra.
  2. by   nicola
    I couldn't agree more that nurses need to identifiable! This issue exists in home care, too, where the HHA's are called "nurses" by their patients and the families. I can't tell you how many times I called some one and said, "This is the nurse, Fulana, from XYZ. I'm coming to see you today." and heard, "Oh, the nurse is already here. She arrived an hour ago and just gave me my bath." I just wanted to scream, "THAT'S YOUR AIDE, YOU IDIOT!!!" Not professional at all...

    Educating the public is necessary, but difficult. It took me 3 years to convince my mother - my own mother who watched me labor and sweat blood for my RN - that I'm not a "mini doctor". Finding the language to talk to her was really hard, tho, despite the fact that I was in school and up to date on the theorists etc... Sigh! If any one finds a solution to this, please let us all know. Then patent or copyright it so you get the millions due you!
  3. by   NancyRN
    I'm not sure I could stand a white lab coat with all the heavy physical work I do. I usually end up taking off my lightweight jacket, even. I do like the idea of a patch and/or one uniform. Why should Flight Attendants look more professional than do nurses?

    The real problem is that the EMPLOYERS like the confusion created by the generic scrub outfit, because it looks as if there are a lot of nurses on staff. It's our profession that's suffering. It's up to us to put a stop to it. Isn't it illegal in Florida to call yourself a nurse if you aren't one?
  4. by   Huganurse
    "Isn't it illegal in Florida to call yourself a nurse if you aren't one?"

    Yes, that is correct.
    Last edit by Huganurse on Jun 30, '02
  5. by   RN-PA
    I'm with NancyRN-- I like the idea of a white lab coat to identify nurses, but I get overheated as it is with my short sleeved scrub top. (I always marvel at nurses who come to work with a turtleneck or sweater along with their scrub top or warm-up jacket; I guess I'm just an unfeminine heavy sweater. :imbar )

    Underneath our names on our badges we are required to wear, it reads "Registered Nurse"; however, the type is half the size of my name. It might help if it was at least the same size or in red or other distinctive color. I know it's hard on the docs when they're looking for an RN to which to give orders. Until they get to know the RN's, they're squinting and peering at our badges trying to read our title.
  6. by   mattsmom81
    Sorry to disagree with your comment Peeps, but this is not a fair analogy. Both CRT/RRT are respiratory therapists, just like LPN's and RN's are both nurses. Comparing a medical assistants's or na's use of the title "nurse" to the difference between respiratory therapists is not an equitable comparison. It is against the law for a nurse assistant to call herself a nurse. It is not against the law for a CRT to call herself a respiratory therapist.

    Mattsmom81
  7. by   hapeewendy
    while I agree with the fact that nursing is a profession and that people who impersonate said profession should be reprimended and not able to use the title "nurse"
    however it has been posted that CNA's and RPN's are not "nurses" This I disagree with completely.

    who said that the only people who can adorn the title or nurse is an RN?
    RPN's and CNA's do just as much, if not more bedside care then the RN does.

    If we continue this attitude, will it get to the point where the only RN's to be appreciated and recognized as a nurse will be the ones who have a BSCN or some other degree?

    the attitude of some of you belittles the nursing profession in general, while others of you make me proud to be among you in the profession.

    I am an RN, have worked extremely hard to become one and thank god every day that I am in a profession that has some *even though it may seem uncertain* stability.

    lets try to get away from calling people "impersonators" unless they really are impersonating an RN or nurse and dont have the title of same.

    it bothers me that people do claim to be
    nurses when they are not , but in some small way it could be considered to be a compliment....
    maybe they aspire to be a nurse, or have spent years taking care of ill family members etc.

    the term nurse is openly interpreted and involves many types of professionals

    RPN's, CNA's, nurse practitioners, RN's with degrees, RN's with diploma's etc
    together we make the profession what it is


    cheers
  8. by   Peeps Mcarthur
    Sorry to mislead you.
    I was pointing out the hypocritical use of the argument.
    The difference between CRTT and RRT is truly more of the gulf between LPN and RN. You would be very suprised at the "training" that I had coming from a one year accelerated program as compared to the usual 4-year RRT.
    I imagine my training was similar in skill level to what MA's learn.
    The courses for an BSN's are the same 4-year classes as RRT's with exception of the majors.
    You lump those same people in with the CRTT's AND the OJT's AND the resp students all the time.

    I can see by the lack of response from anyone else( I appreciate that you did) that that is still the concensus. I imagine it will never change. The profession of Respiratory Therapy( I imagine your snickering right now) is in the Toilet of Lax Guidelines for Licensure.

    FOR GAWDS SAKE........ SOMEBODY FLUSH ALREADY!

    Kinda explains why I'm not an "RT" anymore huh.
  9. by   nurseleigh
    Okay, I understand all of the negative feelings of people impersonating nurses, but I get the feeling that some of you see the CNA working next to you as an uneducated buffoon. Althought I, as an aide, would never tell or even let someone believe i was a nurse, I did have to go to college AND take a test to get that certification. Are CNA's professionals????? You bet your a** they are.

    I too think that there should be a distinct way to differentiate the Aides, LPN's, RN's, MA's, Janitor's, Housekeeping, and the list just goes on. However, every time i bring up uniforms all of the nurses that i know throw a big huge fit about freedom to wear what they want and argue that if they are going to have to pay for their uniforms then they should be allowed to buy whatever they want.

    Traci
  10. by   mattsmom81
    I hope you're not disappointed in your career change, Peeps! Some days I wish I would have taken the RRT vs the RN---and then maybe after 25 years I would still have a working spine and not be literally 'falling apart at the seams' ---like so many of my veteran nurse friends...LOL!

    My pet peeve is in the papers where nurse assistants run ads as "private nurses". I guess what we can do is notify the papers they are contributing to fraud when they run these ads: same with the docs offices when they allow the public to think their assistants are nurses, eh?

    I agree with the poster who stated that dressing all of us in the same unis at work makes the hospital look good. One hospital here started putting nurses in whites again --they are the only ones though. In a way Ithink it would help us to go back to all whites. What's everyone else think??

    Mattsmom81;
  11. by   RNKitty
    I left a hospital last year after only 4 months due to their dangerous and scary staffing policies. One of the lastest right before I left, was to eliminate a title from the name badge. Everyone just had "Clinical Services". This was the same hospital that thought I should be able to float from L&D to ICU and ER with no training. They really didn't want the patients to know that the staff taking care of them could be unqualified to perform the care!
  12. by   AngelicNurse2B
    You took the words right out of my mouth, Traci...and said it so much nicer than the way it would have come out of me!
    I'll be a CNA soon and going to school to get my ADN. Though my goal is to be an RN, I hope that while I am working as a CNA the nurses don't view me as some kind of idiot, interchangeable with the janitorial staff! I understand the importance of people not impersonating nurses but come on, lumping CNA's in with housekeeping and cafeteria workers seems a more than a little bit rude. Are they not working beside you at the bedside, caring for patients? I can't believe the comments I am reading. I guess I am really in for it when I start work as a CNA. Incredible that I will take a class and a state test to be certified for a position in which nurses, of all people, will look at me and think, "Uneducated moron."
  13. by   RNKitty
    We don't think of CNA's as uneducated morons. They are Certified Nurses Assistants, not Nurses. The RN behind our name also carries responsibility and liability. I'm glad you will work with patients before you go to the ADN program - I wish I had! It would have helped me a lot.

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