To Chili and MsJ, as I have stated before on this site, the real nurses (esp. in LTC) are the nursing assistants. They do the hands on care, changing soiled,(crap), diapers/pads, changing clothes, sheets, turning, Lifting 120 lbs. plus patients and putting in wheelchairs or Lifting back to bed, etc. Ok, the etc. is spoon feeding, spit at and yelled at, Lifting to toilet, (having to stay with that sweet elderly person - because they may fall off the commode!) and then being constantly bombarded or yelled at (bells ringing or being paged by nurse,families)and by other residents that need Lifting to commode. Notice, I capitalize Lifting. That Lifting wore me out. I am a well educated RN. I have done that CNA/nursing assistant job when the CNA (real nurses) didn't show up, and believe me, most of America would not do their job for the amount of pay they get. As far as Long Term Care, they are dropping out, just as the RN's and LPN's are. (The RN and LPN are real nurses, too, but they are required to give a ridiculous amount of medication (plus crush up and mix in applesauce, etc.)and do an unrealistic amount of paperwork.) I'm still looking for answers. In the meantime, I am volunteering at my local nursing home, doing whatever I can do to help, but it is not enough. Far from it. OK, find a ditch digger, or a grocery sacker. Ask them,for the same pay, would they rather dig dirt, sack groceries or clean up sh...t in a bed of an elderly person. We all know the answer. What has to happen? Unions? Public outcry? 100 more lawsuits?