Not all nurses eat their young... - page 2

Hey all! So I have read many threads and comments alike on here about nurses eating their young. Heard many horror stories of nurses being quite frankly terrible to those whom they train and work... Read More

  1. by   pixierose
    I just started, over a month in. Adult in-patient psych, a ton of med surg thrown in due to the unique needs of the population.

    I love my unit. They are the most supportive bunch of people. It can be all hitting the fan, but I know they're there for me. And I'm there for them. They're a tough love, throw me into the deep end unit (which some could mistake for NETY) .... BUT IT WORKS.

    And I love them for it.
  2. by   chacha82
    All of my nursing instructors were fantastic. They were stern, fair, and prudent nurses. We were taught early on we were there to help the hospital - not the other way around. There was only one time when a nurse didn't want to take a student, and as a new nurse I certainly understood how she felt.

    I worked with a highly organized night nurse who helped me develop a routine and get down to business - take everyone to the bathroom, assess, chart, give meds once everyone is settled. She was awesome to work with. My preceptor was very understanding and kind, even in a difficult ICU setting. I often think about how she would handle sticky situations nowadays and I use her firm but compassionate tone.

    The first floor I worked on had very experienced and helpful nurses! Whenever I needed help, I got it - not always right away but they made time for me. I have been very lucky but you need thick skin in general in nursing - just because people are frazzled or short with you, it's not NETY.
  3. by   Spidey's mom
    This is a fantastic and refreshing idea for a thread. So thank you!

    I'll be back later to contribute more but I have a hospice call.

    I just wanted to chime in with kudos!
  4. by   donsterRN
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Because their success is my success at the end of the day.
    This is undoubtedly the truest statement I have read in a long, long time.
  5. by   HermioneG
    Quote from Extra Pickles
    How amazingly fortunate you were! There are times when I wish I had the time to give this kind of mentoring but the reality of the job is that most of the time I barely have time to do what I need let alone sitting with a student to watch a video and then wait for her to complete the task or skill! I hope that other students reading this realize that NOT doing this for them doesn't mean we don't want them to succeed or don't feel like helping them. Sometimes our patient load (or patience that day) just don't allow it. That unit sure set a high bar for everyone else lol!
    Hey! Yeah, I completely agree that this isn't the norm, but I think that because they had a few extra minutes they wanted me to do it.. and the fact that they used their time to help me like that was absolutely incredible! I really couldn't thank them enough

    And I've never felt that a nurse who didn't have the time to do this didn't want me to succeed or didn't want to help me! If anything, me just being in the room and watching is a huge opportunity! I think most students would agree that nurses can have enormously stressful and busy jobs, and so any tidbits that they share are so deeply appreciated, but definitely not expected!
  6. by   calivianya
    These stories are reminding me of a cool shiny new thing I had last week.

    I had a TLD for the first time - for real, that's what they called it - a "tiny little drain." I'd never seen one before in my life. It was in the front of my patient's neck after a major spinal surgery - she had the TLD in the anterior neck site, JP in the posterior neck site, hemovac to the low back site (I'm talking a 9 hour spinal fusion with multiple flips/multiple surgical sites, multiple bone harvest sites to rebuild her vertebral column).

    She was only with me because she spent eight of the nine hours face down on the OR table, and even with steroids, she had massive throat/neck/facial swelling, and the surgeon was a little concerned she was going to need intubation for airway protection because he thought her throat might just swell shut. Not sick at all, alert and oriented, pleasant.

    The TLD was a super simple drain - tiny, narrow tubing going into the wound (looked an awful lot like the tubing attached to a butterfly needle), a vacutainer connector like you'd use to draw blood, a red tube, and then a cover for the red tube. You just unspiked the previous red tube and replaced it with a new one when the current red tube filled up, and then put the cover back over it so the red tube didn't come off and expose the needle to poke someone.

    I asked her if she minded feeling a little like a zoo animal for a bit, because I've been in ICU for four years and I'd never seen a TLD, so I was willing to bet almost none of my coworkers had, either. She said she didn't mind, so I rotated 12 of the people working with me that night through the room. Every time the red tube in it filled up and it needed a new one, I went and got two more people, and had someone else do it. xD It was fun. One person had seen it before, but it was new to everyone else.
  7. by   Isakolistic
    I didn't even know NETY was a thing until I joined AN. It might be true that some nurses are meaner than others, but isn't that just life? In any area of life you'll get people who want to tear you down. Generally though, I have found the entire nursing community to be very helpful and supportive of new nurses. Maybe I've just worked in some great facilities, but I like to think that nurses are usually pretty cool people.

    I had one supervisor in particular who was just great. She would make sure to let me know of new procedures or treatments and gleefully answer any possible questions I had. I hope to be that encouraging and willing to share my knowledge to new nurses someday!
  8. by   Kooky Korky
    I realize that there are at least half a dozen nurses who come to mind immediately as having been nice, willing to teach, and decent.

    Unfortunately, I have tended to dwell on the evil wenches I've also encountered in the past few decades. I need to stop thinking about
    how rude and mean they were and realize that their behavior was due to personal unhappiness that they brought to work with them.

    Thanks for this positive thread, OP.

    Yes, I have gladly and pleasantly helped numerous students and coworkers.
  9. by   Extra Pickles
    Quote from HermioneG
    And I've never felt that a nurse who didn't have the time to do this didn't want me to succeed or didn't want to help me! If anything, me just being in the room and watching is a huge opportunity! I think most students would agree that nurses can have enormously stressful and busy jobs, and so any tidbits that they share are so deeply appreciated, but definitely not expected!
    Oh how I wish that this was true. Sadly there have been many threads posted in which students have bitterly complained that the nurses "won't" teach them things, won't show them things, or just make them stand there watching when what they REALLY want to do is get a skill checked off a list. I've cringed reading how nurses are responsible for teaching students what they want or need to know (instead of focusing on their instructors) and it gets hard to listen to after awhile.

    Appreciative students like you are the reason I DO like having students (mostly lol). But for some out there, they can make it pretty hard to get past the "you owe me an education" kind of thinking.

    Thank you for not doing that
  10. by   NurseLife88
    [QUOTE=pixierose;9420748]
    I love my unit. They are the most supportive bunch of people. It can be all hitting the fan, but I know they're there for me. And I'm there for them. They're a tough love, throw me into the deep end unit (which some could mistake for NETY) .... BUT IT WORKS.

    I totally agree that's a great way of looking at things. Sometimes you have to get thrown in the deep end to learn how to swim. And it's a great blessing knowing they have that lifeline to throw you if they see you drowning!
  11. by   Bearsbart
    Thank you for this reflection! Even as a third semester nursing student, clinicals can be quite intimidating. This was encouraging to read!
  12. by   HermioneG
    Oh wow, I didn't know that there were a lot of students who acted like that! I've heard students say things like that sometimes, but always very infrequently. I guess I was wrong! I would think that dealing with students who had that kind of entitlement would get tiring after awhile But please don't give up hope on the rest of us! Many of us (some of us?) so deeply appreciate seeing something interesting, even if it's from the back and hands off, and understand when the answer is no! I've found that by "expecting" less but being enthusiastic and extremely thankful when you do get opportunities actually gives you more in the long run. It also seems so much healthier than coming in ego blazing with a sense of entitlement <3

    Good talk, you sound like you'd be a great nurse to learn from!
  13. by   Skippingtowork
    Quote from HermioneG
    CCU BSN RN, BSN, RN: I loved your post and it inspired me to share one of my "it takes a village" experiences from nursing school as well, and would love to hear other people's stories!

    It was my last quarter of nursing school and I was doing my practicum in the ER. The ER is large and fairly spread out, and one part of the ER is a short walk down the hall and back behind the rest of the department. My nurse and I were assigned more towards the front of the department in the pediatric ER.

    I was in my patient's room when I heard a nurse at the station say "has anyone seen the nursing student?" I poked my head out of the room and there was a nurse (one of my favorite nurses, actually!) who was talking to my preceptor. The nurse said to my preceptor "mind if I steal your student for a bit?" and then asked me if I wanted to go with her and access a power port. I said yes, and she took me back down the hall and to her station which was in the part of the department that was down the hall.

    Her and a second nurse sat me down at the nurse's station and together we watched a YouTube video on the skill. Then they both helped me gather the supplies and had me access the port, while they helped and walked me through the skill. With their encouragement, and a wonderfully kind patient, I was able to do it mostly by myself! It made me feel so fortunate and lucky to be in a department where nurses will go even a step further and search out the student to do an interesting skill. I had never experienced it before my practicum in that department. Granted this wasn't like an everyday thing, but that wasn't the only time a nurse did that! I can think of at least two other times off the top of my head where a nurse in the ER came and got me when there was an interesting skill to do. It was also wonderful because many of the physicians would explain concepts to me, explain why a medication or order was given, give me feedback or teach me for a few minutes after a code or after sedating a patient for intubation, or even take me into the physician workroom to show me an interesting x-ray that my patient had and explained what I was seeing. The other two students who had their practicum in this ER had very similar experiences, I think the culture there is just amazing. It really was, as CCU BSN said, an "it takes a village" type situation.

    One of the preceptors that I had, who has worked in that ER for about 15 years, loved to constantly remind me "we don't eat our young here in the ER, we feed them!" I can't wait to be able to do that for a student someday, wherever I end up.
    What a wonderful testimony! A culture of learning! A Culture of teaching!

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