Non-Nurses calling themselves a Nurse - page 18

The school district my child goes to has a CNA in the school clinic, who refers to herself as "The school Nurse". I thought she was either an LVN or RN until last week when she had me come pick up... Read More

  1. by   sarajasmine
    To-Roy F.
    I was the person who originally posted this message-it was concerning Nursing Assistants calling themselves "Nurses" which they are not. They don't have the education to do a Nursing assessment or receive verbal doctor's orders in case of emergency. Fortunately, no emergency in my daughter's case but, a potential concern(see original post).
  2. by   jjjoy
    (I posted this recently on a similar thread)

    I just did a quick and dirty internet search on nurse as a protected title. It looks like it's regulated state by state. It looks like California passed legislation in 1999 on it and Colorado did in 2004. I didn't check for all 50 states but a few others didn't generate any hits in my short search.
  3. by   sarajasmine
    non-nurses calling themselves nurses

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    Concerning the CNA at my child's school....
    Yes, she admininisters meds to kids at school as long as they have a perscription bottle labeled appropriately! Don't know about insulin or special need students-that REALLY concerns me! Is she administering sliding scale insulin?! Don't know?! A child is not aloud to self-administer even a cough drop without her permission. Who gives her these assessment rights w/o the proper level of education?
    Can't find a district Nurse listed ANYWHERE on the Lancaster ISD website or internet! She might be certified in 1st aide by red cross and cpr certified but, that still doesn't make her a "Nurse". If an emergency was to occur-how could she take a verbal order from the medical director of the district? That's not within her scope of practice! I think the school districts that are lower income are trying to cut corners and hope nothing happens!
    Jane
  4. by   sirI
    Quote from jjjoy
    (I posted this recently on a similar thread)

    I just did a quick and dirty internet search on nurse as a protected title. It looks like it's regulated state by state. It looks like California passed legislation in 1999 on it and Colorado did in 2004. I didn't check for all 50 states but a few others didn't generate any hits in my short search.
    You just didn't get hits on all states.

    It states clearly in the NPA of my state (AR):


    a -1- It shall be a misdemeanor for any person to:

    (D) - Use in connection with his or her name any of the following titles, names, or initials, if the user is not properly licensed under the chapter:

    i - Nurse
  5. by   sarajasmine
    I'm the person who originally posted this-seen many deviations from the original topic. I used to be a CNA and a LPN and can relate to those issues.
    I also happen to have an Excellent CMA at our family doctor's office, she is GREAT with my daughter, very professional but, also refers to herself as Dr T."s assistant. She is very professional and is skilled in areas I am not-even as an RN-I don't draw blood on regular basis, I don't do strep tests. I've worked in the hospital environment mostly over the last 22 yrs. I applaud CNA's, CMA's, LPN's/LVN's, as well as students working on their education!!
  6. by   pepperann35
    That's how it is here in Florida also. They have regular, non-medically educated, people working in the clinics. They do not want to pay the salary of a LPN or RN. They get away with it. It's not right.
  7. by   AmandaBrittainy
    In NM, it is unlawful to call yourself a nurse if you are not an RN or LPN/LVN. Who prosecutes this though, its not like you call the cops and point the finger?
  8. by   DutchgirlRN
    Quote from AmandaBrittainy
    In NM, it is unlawful to call yourself a nurse if you are not an RN or LPN/LVN. Who prosecutes this though, its not like you call the cops and point the finger?
    That's a shame because if they were hit with a stiff financial penalty maybe they would wise up and stop dangerously imitating nurses.
  9. by   LilPeanut
    I have to say, when I was a PCA while in nursing school, I was always very careful that they knew I was the assistant to the nurse. I even took some time to explain to a mom who was a little confused as to the differences in all the positions, what exactly was different between a PCA, an RN, an NNP, etc.

    And I have to say, now that I have my license and am practicing, there is definitely a pride that comes when I can say that I'm the nurse that will be caring for your child today. Or that I'm an RN. Ahh, us silly new grads *LOL*
  10. by   southernatheart
    Dont forget good old 'sleep acne'. Yep. Waking herself up during the night because she stopped breathing several times. I thought she meant she broke out while sleeping
  11. by   penguin2
    One place I worked, the administrator referred to the OR techs as scrub NURSES. It really made us nurses feel like nothing special on nurse's day when all the OR techs got gifts as well as the nurses & ward clerks!! (never mind that they were recognized on their own 'special' days as well-- which WE were not a part of!!) Is it any wonder they have a constant turnover at that place? Talk about a lack of professional respect!!
    Last edit by penguin2 on Apr 23, '07
  12. by   queen90018
    I'm an LVN in Calif, and the school districts here won't hire a "nurse", unless they are LVN or RN.
  13. by   raidermom
    I worked to hard to get my license, it really makes me mad when I hear people in my community ask a lady that works under a doctor's supervision- no nursing school or boards- what she thinks about a situation or condition. I want to scream She's not a nurse!! What is worse is she has no people skills either.

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