Non Nurse Threads - page 6

I have noticed a few threads from non nurses who post threads asking for our opinions about the care they or thier family members received in the hospital. They usually want to know if everything... Read More

  1. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by Gomer
    Have I done something of offend you?
    Ya think?

    March onward with your evasive replies. Ignore the matter at hand. Play coy. I don't really care.

    Toodles.

    Heather
  2. by   OBNURSEHEATHER


    Heather
  3. by   BrandyBSN
    Its a rough situation all around. Yes, there have been people who have been punished greatly for expressing their opinions on this site. It is extremely sad, and something that many of us have really taken to heart.

    I would love to keep people with destructive agendas out of this board, but realistically, I am not sure it is possible.

    I think we have all been affected by the events suffered by our fellow posters, and has made us all HYPER-sensitive when it comes to non-nurses taking part in these forums. While I completely feel that care is necessary when posting to keep things within the legal realms of confidence, I do hope that these forums remain open to nurses, Pre-post-and-current, and persons that are interested in the field of study.

    I believe the registration License requirement has been discussed with Brian before, and he at the time said (sorry if I am misquoting you brian) that he had no intentions of making this a closed "nurses only site". Knowing that altered registration is not possible, what are some other avenues that we can pursue to help ourselves feel safe to express our thoughts without fearing penalty?

    Suggestions?
    Brandy
  4. by   l.rae
    Originally posted by OBNURSEHEATHER


    Heather
    Heather.....tell us how you REALLY feel!!!!!LOL:roll
    Last edit by l.rae on Jul 23, '02
  5. by   pebbles
    God, all we need is an other angry thread about "nice people" vs the tattletales - yeah it happened, and it sucks, but can't we drop it already?

    I visit several BB sites, and this is the only one that is so paranoid. YOu think people being evasive, not wanting to "let it all hang out" is unique to this site? You think other sites on the internet don't have people who post under different usernames?

    If you are looking for a place where you can trust everyone, get off the internet entirely.

    Guardedness is the way to be in online communication. Period.

    Maybe some people learn that the hard way and get burned - and yes, it's okay to be angry about that. But you don't have to take it out on everyone else.
  6. by   Figaro's Mom
    Originally posted by Debbie5
    Gee... I never thought about all the possible problems that could arise from these nursing sites. I have found this particular forum to be very informative. I have to admit - I'm only a pre-nursing student as of now. My intention is to enroll in nursing school but that's at least three semesters away. It's sad that it's gotten to the point of needing to use such measures to ensure safety.
    Same here. I have so many prereqs to get out of the way first, before I can enroll as a nursing student. So the idea of getting a student ID number to check if I'm a nursing student wouldn't work for me.

    *starting to feel quite unwelcome around here*
  7. by   Q.
    In Gomer's defense, I have seen him/her around before in the past and am fairly confident that person is not a ratfink and is a nurse.

    Gomer, what probably happened is someone from the employer assumed that the poster was say, Susan Smith (an example) and confronted her at work, and rather than denying all of it, Susan got defensive, admitted to it without thinking, assuming that freedom of speech was protected.

    What they should have done is deny all of it.
  8. by   shygirl
    As the great philosopher Dennis Miller once said, "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong."
    :roll [/B][/QUOTE]


    You are!
    Last edit by shygirl on Jul 23, '02
  9. by   GreenBead
    First of all, as the person who posted the question about a family member, I'm not suing anybody. I have never sued anybody. If I were ever to file a malpractice lawsuit against somebody, it wouldn't be over anything short of gross negligence, and I wouldn't troll for advice on an anonymous nursing web-board. "Yes, your honor, OBNurseHeather said that was just plain bad nursing. And Rusty Hammer. Uh, I'm not sure if that's his real name. I think he's a male nurse, though." I posted the thread for the precise reason I said I was posting. I don't like the idea of people who would blow off my sister's pain and was hoping for another explanation for it. I got several. I appreciated it. As far as pizza delivery goes, how long is five minutes to you when you're hurting really badly?

    As far as lurkers and trolls go -- if you lurk, troll, and make trouble on someone else's board, they will find you and will come to lurk, troll, and make trouble on your board. This is pretty elementary, actually. So if you don't want people to show up, don't post links to their board to mock them and then register over there to harrass them. Duh. Why should the women of bf.com respect your privacy? You didn't respect theirs.
  10. by   NMAguiar
    Please, if you can, tell me where I'm wrong?

    Is it that many on this thread seem so paranoid they look for eyes in their toilets?

    Is it that I doubt the usefulness of material from this tread in any legal proceedings or the desire of any lawyer to undergo an extensive e-mail search to uncover it?

    Or is it that I'm opposed to restrictive measures that would restrict free speech in any form -- including this forum.

    As a person that wasn't always a nurse, I'm appalled by some of the statements I read on here from people that supposedly care for and about others. Considering the positive movements on behalf of nursing that I believe is beginning to sweep this nation, some of these types may have to re-think their profession or alter their attitudes.

    Yes, we are professionals. Let's try to act like such and maintain the clear thought processes on this forum that I hope we all have when treating our patients.

    This message has surely given some of your bad-attitude, always pissed-off individuals plenty of fodder. Let my trashing begin!

    (e-mail notification off)
  11. by   h2ogoddess
    Good grief, it's getting nasty here! Guess I'll rethink things!
  12. by   Q.
    Originally posted by NMAguiar
    Please, if you can, tell me where I'm wrong?

    Is it that many on this thread seem so paranoid they look for eyes in their toilets?

    Is it that I doubt the usefulness of material from this tread in any legal proceedings or the desire of any lawyer to undergo an extensive e-mail search to uncover it?

    Or is it that I'm opposed to restrictive measures that would restrict free speech in any form -- including this forum.

    As a person that wasn't always a nurse, I'm appalled by some of the statements I read on here from people that supposedly care for and about others. Considering the positive movements on behalf of nursing that I believe is beginning to sweep this nation, some of these types may have to re-think their profession or alter their attitudes.

    Yes, we are professionals. Let's try to act like such and maintain the clear thought processes on this forum that I hope we all have when treating our patients.

    This message has surely given some of your bad-attitude, always pissed-off individuals plenty of fodder. Let my trashing begin!

    (e-mail notification off)
    I guess if you or your friends were FIRED over saying their orientation was shoddy or their manager was horrible on a website, YOU'D feel the same way too.
    Especially then if you tried to find another job and XYZ Hospital was faxing your posts to EVERY HOSPITAL IN A 50 MILE RADIUS, and those hospitals questioned hiring you. I think by then perhaps, you might find yourself with an "attitude."

    Unless you feel those employers were justified? Is that what you are saying? Are you saying that for us to feel guarded here and leary, after our friends being FIRED over what this board, is just plain ridiculous? If so, then I hope and pray that your naivete pays off, because it sure didn't for two long time users and friends here.
  13. by   Q.
    Originally posted by GreenBead
    First of all, as the person who posted the question about a family member, I'm not suing anybody. I have never sued anybody. If I were ever to file a malpractice lawsuit against somebody, it wouldn't be over anything short of gross negligence, and I wouldn't troll for advice on an anonymous nursing web-board. "Yes, your honor, OBNurseHeather said that was just plain bad nursing. And Rusty Hammer. Uh, I'm not sure if that's his real name. I think he's a male nurse, though." I posted the thread for the precise reason I said I was posting. I don't like the idea of people who would blow off my sister's pain and was hoping for another explanation for it. I got several. I appreciated it. As far as pizza delivery goes, how long is five minutes to you when you're hurting really badly?

    I appreciate your post here, but until YOU have a license (and therefore, livlihood) to lose over things, you will never understand how nurses and other medical professionals tread lightly over issues like this. Even doctors have known to order tests we call "CYA tests" to simply prevent him/her from being sued. While YOU may not want to personally sue anybody, alot of people DO.

    I have known nurses who have been left to dry, with no income as a result of a lawsuit, despite an incorrect order from two physicians and a pharmacist. She has no job now and a family to feed.

    We have heard of nurses facing JAIL TIME for medication errors.

    These are REAL issues, so yeah, we will be a little "weird" to you about it but it's real serious for us. This is my JOB, my bread and butter and it pays the bills. I have to constantly be on the lookout for whatever I do and say, as it may end up in court one day. And you can't just say "well do what's right and you'll be ok." No. That's not reality.

    As far as the 5 minutes in answering a call light; well yes I can understand someone is in pain, but then write to your congressman about that because that has nothing to do with the nurse and EVERYTHING to do with the NURSING SHORTAGE!
    Complain to them, and make a difference.

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