NO MORE SUZY K !!!!!!! - page 2

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WHO THINKS SUZY K NEEDS TO GET OVER HERSELF?????IT IS NURSES LIKE YOU THAT GIVE US ALL A BAD NAME! WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY ON THIS INTELLIGENT BOARD MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE BESIDES C.LO WILL LISTEN BECAUSE IT SOUNDS... Read More


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    Originally posted by Sunshine55:
    I'm sure to many of you this anger is confusing. The anger did not start with Suzy K's initial question ... it started with C.LO's reply to that question followed by Suzy K's concurring reply. I love debates! But, debates do not equal attacks.
    I agree with you. Suzy K asked a question ,just a question. As for C.LO's reply , I don't agree with it . So what ? I am an LPN and I do know I make a big difference for my patients and as part of the nursing team where I work. I am lucky enough to work with a group of FNP's , who have always encouraged and showed me respect for the work I do .I have learned a great deal from them , even though I had plenty of hospital experience before I started here. I have had jobs where I did most of the things the RN's did , except IV pushes . I think the real difference is education and Responsibility. Bottom line is everyone is entiled to his/her own opinion . It will not change my ability / competency .
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    OK, Stargazer, I'll try again. I am so tired of this debate. Like I said in my post to suzy, if you can't say anything nice,don't say anything at all, and then I said I would take my own advise. Lets analyze this. What reaction did suzy really think she was going to elicit from the LPN's? She asked us why we are in our chosen profession instead of hers. So people responded, and they were angry. I just wish that LPN versus RN debate would go away. If I had one wish, it would be that I don't ever have to justify my career choice to anyone again. I truly don't know where LPN's are not utilized. I worked in the state level one trauma center in 1999. I had no trouble getting a job there, and they continue to hire LPN's. The LPN's work on every floor in the hospital...even the intensive care units. I was trained in starting IV's, blood draws, and passing medications. I was treated with the upmost respect by my employer and my skills were appreciated and utilized to the fullest extent. Everyone is not an RN and every other health care provider is utilized to their fullest extent in my area. I didn't feel the need to respond to suzy's outlandish request, and that is what it truly was. People make choices in their life for a variety of reasons, everyones circumstances are different, and they make the best decision they can with what they have to work with. Now stargazer, I will tell you why I became an LPN. And
    I will tell you because you are kind and I feel you respect me and my career choice. My husband and I had just bought a brand new mobile home for $11,000 dollars...it was 1978, and this was an unbelieveable amount of money to us, and we had two children, 4 and 5. My husband was a mechanic at a local dealership. He was our only source of income, as I had been a stay at home mom with only a high school diploma and no special training. Well we had been in our new mobile home approx. one month and had made the first payment. He came home one night and said..."I lost my job today, my last day is Friday." Well for a minute, well actually quite a few I thought he was kidding, but finally I realized it was the truth. I had always wanted to be a nurse since I was a little girl. The month was June, and I knew I needed to learn a skill to help so this would never happen again. By February of 1979 I started LPN school and graduated in December of that year. After a few weeks I realized that I loved it but it was too late to go to RN school. I wanted to be an RN but something always got in the way. I took some CPE's and passed and thought I was on my way...16 college credits. But someone always needed something and it just never seemed to be the right time. I don't hate RN's...I wanted to be one in the worst way...it just never happened. But you know what...we always had my income...never had any trouble finding a job. Still don't. In fact I was working home care...high tech pediatrics...kids with trachs, on vents at home, feeding tubes, pumps....All alone with the mom gone. But I gave it all up...just since January. I do social work now...home based case management..trying to overcome the barriers that people have to becoming employed. And I do this with my 21yrs of LPN training and experience. So stargazer that is why I became an LPN. See you on the boards....bye

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    Well realnurse, thanks for your answer of why you became an LPN. Whew. Took ALL that for you to answer. What I was hoping to elicit was exactly what you just told to Stargazer. Please do me a favor and don't think you know what my intentions are. Everyone's circumstances are different, yes, people's situations are different. Maybe being an LPN was about the times or the hospital, as some posters outlined, or the continuing education. My question stemmed from your own words of how an LPN is the same as an RN, just gets paid less. So, logically one would ask, why not be an RN and do the same thing for more money? I never delineated our professions, as you did. Like I said, we laid off all the LPNs in our area and they don't do nearly as much as The Boss by any means. I still don't know where your hostility came from, I don't think you know either, but after all of that, I finally got my answer from you. Just took a little effort.
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    Thanks for the in-depth response, realnurse. You are correct, I do respect you and your career choices. Maybe it's Pollyanna-ish of me, but I truly believe that most of the people on these boards do also.
    She asked us why we are in our chosen profession instead of hers.
    Ouch. I'd like to think that we are all on slightly different paths of the SAME profession.
    If I had one wish, it would be that I don't ever have to justify my career choice to anyone again.
    I took Susy's question to be one of genuine intellectual curiosity, not as a challenge. I could be wrong. As I said, since tone and inflection and facial expression don't come across on the boards, it's certainly possible to misread someone. But that's why I pretty much prefer to assume intent is benign unless proven otherwise. And you are correct, you never should have to justify your career choice to anyone. Ever.
    After a few weeks I realized that I loved it but it was too late to go to RN school.
    Well, it sounds like your career is going great and you don't care to make a big change right now, but remember....if you really DID want to....it's NEVER too late!!

    Edited to add, while probably not uncommon, your story was kind of sad and yet really inspiring at the same time. Your family needed you to step up to the plate and become the breadwinner, and you just DID. This is one of the many reasons why nurses rock! Being in this situation has to be scary and stressful, and probably has a lot to do with why so many nurses are reluctant to become anarchists at work, to the eternal disappointment of some other posters who shall remain nameless [*cough* wildtime88 *cough*]



    [This message has been edited by Stargazer (edited March 27, 2001).]
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    Originally posted by Susy K:
    [B]Well realnurse, thanks for your answer My question stemmed from your own words of how an LPN is the same as an RN, just gets paid less. /B]
    No suzy...i never said I did the same as you and got paid less....I said I was tired of this question being posted all the time just in different ways...I believe that was the boss. Goodnight...bye



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    Can't we just all get along and be nice to one another?

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    I would like to remind you that Suzy Q merely asked a question, Go back and reread her post. I can't see the hostility in her post, and I certainly cannot understand the overwhelming negative response she got. For pete's sake, people, there is more to life than your definition of nursing-whatever that may be. Honestly, is her question off limits? Why did it elicit such a drastically negative response? I for one respect ALL nurses for what they do. It's true that some of us cannot hold jobs that others can. I for one, am a BSN, who is a school nurse. In Ohio, one must have an RN and a college degree. Does that make me better? NO! Just different.
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    This message is for SuzyK,

    Every one is entitled to their own opinions. You were merely asking a question about LPN's and someone starts to criticize. Don't we get enough negative feedback at work? We come on this BB to share information, ideas and to vent. We shouldn't be bashing one another. I'm sorry that you are being treated this way
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    Originally posted by lindaisanurse:
    I hadn't been able to get on the net for several days, so the first thing i did was check out allnurses. I saw this post and got very confused, so I searched to find the original message from Suzy K - now I'm rally confused. Where is all the anger coming from? It seems to me that Suzy K asked a logical and neutral question and a few people flipped out. Why? Do some of you need a vacation or what?

    Read the entire post, then comment. Thank you.
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    Originally posted by katscan:
    I would like to remind you that Suzy Q merely asked a question, Go back and reread her post. I can't see the hostility in her post, and I certainly cannot understand the overwhelming negative response she got. For pete's sake, people, there is more to life than your definition of nursing-whatever that may be. Honestly, is her question off limits? Why did it elicit such a drastically negative response? I for one respect ALL nurses for what they do. It's true that some of us cannot hold jobs that others can. I for one, am a BSN, who is a school nurse. In Ohio, one must have an RN and a college degree. Does that make me better? NO! Just different.
    You need to be an LPN to understand this. Susy K. had subtle undertones that were disrespectful. Reading is a good idea, especially reading critically.



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