new RN's in specialty areas - page 9

I have been noticing many posts of new nurses being overhelmed. Many seem to be entering specialty areas soon after finishing their RN programs. Does anyone else see that perhaps a trend here that... Read More

  1. by   degraypoole
    Quote from SillyStudent
    I repeat, some people do not have a talent for teaching others and it is very stressful to them. They do not have a moral responsibility to stress themselves out and teach. 'Paying it forward' is a great concept, and I try to do it myself, but teaching is NEVER going to be for everyone.
    If senior nurses are expected to teach and don't want to for whatever reason, they should take it up with their supervisors, and not resent the new nurse, who after all never asked to be assigned in the first place, it is jut a requirement. Usually a supervisor will not assign a newcomer to a senior nurse unless they think they can do the job.

    So now is it a personal matter? Do these same nurses not remember that they too received training, perhaps from others that also begrudged it but did it anyway? Are they not where they are today in-part due to the skills they acquired from them? They should be proud that they have been selected for this honorable position and make the most of it. I know I would.

    I remember, at the age of 16, I was in an excellerated Human Anatomy class, when my professor asked me to teach the class the next day because she was going to be indisposed. What did I know about teaching at this age? But I saw it as an honor. I had been asked to teach a class of students way older than me 18-23 years of age, because I knew the subject material very well. I did a good job even though It was not my place to teach. I was after all the student!
  2. by   degraypoole
    if senior nurses are expected to teach and don't want to for whatever reason, they should take it up with their supervisors, and not resent the new nurse, who after all never asked to be assigned in the first place, it is jut a requirement. usually a supervisor will not assign a newcomer to a senior nurse unless they think they can do the job.

    so now is it a personal matter? do these same nurses not remember that they too received training, perhaps from others that also begrudged it but did it anyway? are they not where they are today in-part due to the skills they acquired from them? they should be proud that they have been selected for this honorable position and make the most of it. i know i would.

    i remember, at the age of 16, i was in an excellerated human anatomy class, when my professor asked me to teach the class the next day because she was going to be indisposed. what did i know about teaching at this age? but i saw it as an honor. i had been asked to teach a class of students way older than me 18-23 years of age, because i knew the subject material very well. i did a good job even though it was not my place to teach. i was after all the student!

    working for god on earth does not pay much,
    but his retirement plan is out of this world.
    Last edit by degraypoole on May 5, '08 : Reason: edit
  3. by   SillyStudent
    Quote from degraypoole
    If senior nurses are expected to teach and don't want to for whatever reason, they should take it up with their supervisors, and not resent the new nurse, who after all never asked to be assigned in the first place, it is jut a requirement. Usually a supervisor will not assign a newcomer to a senior nurse unless they think they can do the job.
    I have only been a nurse for a few months, and I have already seen senior nurses forced to precept new nurses. They DO take it up with management, and get assigned anyway. I am glad you like to teach and consider it 'an honor'. I rather like to teach as well, but we cannot expect that everyone is cut out for it. And I am done with this thread because I am repeating myself. Whether anyone likes it or not, teaching is NOT FOR EVERYONE. People who do not wish to do it should not be forced to do it. That way lies burnout.
  4. by   TRINI_RN
    Quote from sunny261
    I agree with you about facilities trying to fill slots but do you think that a new grad will be fully aware of the downside of these jobs? They sound good but then when you are in that situation of having a code plus other unstable pts and phones ringing and families. Not to mention that just starting out in a new job is stressful in itself. I think that if the new nurse was aware of the not so nice sides of these areas they would be better prepared. Schools do not train nurses for specialty areas you pretty much get the basics and then you are on your own. There are many people who walk away from nursing due to the fact that the real world isn't all rosy and clearcut as in school.
    And this could not happen on a Med/surg floor??????
  5. by   TRINI_RN
    If doctors don't HAVE to do a year in Med/surg out of school why should we?
  6. by   scrubing77
    "i agree with you about facilities trying to fill slots but do you think that a new grad will be fully aware of the downside of these jobs? they sound good but then when you are in that situation of having a code plus other unstable pts and phones ringing and families. not to mention that just starting out in a [font=verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif][font=verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif]new [font=verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif]job is stressful in itself. i think that if the new nurse was aware of the not so nice sides of these areas they would be better prepared. schools do not train nurses for specialty areas you pretty much get the basics and then you are on your own. there are many people who walk away from [font=verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif][font=verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif]nursing due to the fact that the real world isn't all rosy and clearcut as in school."

    this is true with all areas. at least in my program at school we had a class that at least addressed this. it give some understand to the students about the book world and the differences in the real world. also, not all but a big portion of the people going thru nursing school did some type of medical work before. i myself was a surgical tech for 9 years before i graduated from nursing school so i had a very good understanding of how the real world is.
  7. by   Km8011
    I would like to know how to get into the PICU or NICU when you cannot get hired. They hire new grads all the time, but will not hire an experienced nurse unless they have PICU or NICU experience. How are you supposed to get experience if no one will hire you? I have been trying to get into critical care for 4 years. New grads, if you want critical care, it seems that the way to go right now is to start there, or good luck getting in later. Please if anyone has advice on how I can get into a critical care unit, please let me know. I have been a nurse for 5 years and have worked in pediatrics in 2 large children's hospitals.
  8. by   amesor
    Quote from Km8011
    I would like to know how to get into the PICU or NICU when you cannot get hired. They hire new grads all the time, but will not hire an experienced nurse unless they have PICU or NICU experience. How are you supposed to get experience if no one will hire you? I have been trying to get into critical care for 4 years. New grads, if you want critical care, it seems that the way to go right now is to start there, or good luck getting in later. Please if anyone has advice on how I can get into a critical care unit, please let me know. I have been a nurse for 5 years and have worked in pediatrics in 2 large children's hospitals.
    there are some hospitals who provide training and seminars in special areas like the one you are looking for...since they have some requirements/documents i think everything is in your hands now...like TOR, cert. of employment and others.i just don't know from what state are you now...are you just in the Phils.?If so, PHC is offering one...try to check it out...Good luck!

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