New grad just got fired - page 7

I am still searching for the strength to move on. I was called in the office yesterday and given the pink slip. I am a new grad, just graduated in May and passed nclex a couple months later and got... Read More

  1. by   twotrees2
    Quote from zoeboboey
    As to a new job, I do believe that when one applies for a job, all the old employer will give out is dates of employment. xo
    that is all ythey are supposed to say - date of hire- date last worked there and woudl they rehire - however - i have never heard of one NOT talking out for what they are supposed to not say. they give that info out and there is no way to prove it - sadly true at least in our area.
  2. by   RN mom of 2
    I'm so sorry. This must be a difficult time for you. Don't let one person make you feel bad about your abilities. You know in your heart that you were doing your very best. They don't deserve you, and someone else will be thrilled to have you on their team. It's hard, but just remember, this too shall pass. Hold your head high and move on to the next place you are meant to be.

    In the words of U2, "Don't let the bastards grind you down."


    Take care.
  3. by   mudget
    Rn2day-How are you holding up? Are things coming together for you now? Please keep us informed. We are all wishing you the best.
  4. by   tiggertoo
    Same thing happened to me. After 3 months I was told I wasn't a good fit. I had had at least 20 preceptors during my orientation. Most of them gave conflicting information and couldn't explain any of their rational, e.g. you have to shake the purple top tube vigourously you know! Or, I know there is an order that you take the vials for a blood C&S but I don't know what it is. I was told by one preceptor that I used the wrong pencil when updating a Kardex! It was a pencil, not a colored pencil or anything. She just didn't want me taking a pencil from the supply cabinet, I was supposed to walk around the whole unit until I found one that was in use already.

    There was a new grad class; this was a magnet hospital after all (whoopti), where the instructors were just going through the motions. For example, they would show up without their supplies to give demos! "You all know what a butterfly looks like right, well then you put this thingy into the vein push the button and voila". Complaints about the level of instruction where made on their evaluations and were responded to with "You don't have to be here you know". Real professionals!

    Oh the part I liked best is how they loved to tell you how much money they spent on orienting each new grad, each quote went up a couple of thousand so I can't give you an exact number, anywhere between $40,000 - 45,000, I think they pulled the number out to their hat. Well, they didn't hesitate to throw that money any.

    During my tenure there I can't tell you how many complaints I got from patients as I walked in the room at the beginning of my shift about the last nurse. Many of them were to be my preceptors. My last day I had comfort care patient, her iv had infiltrated about 2100 the night before (according to her husband). This was the one hand she could still use and more importantly write with. She had oral cancer and was not able to speak, but was still very much a0x4 and would communitcate with her family by writing, very clearly, now with a hand the size of a baseball mit she was unable to. The night shift had not done anything about her IV, her bed was soak with iv solution not to mention that she wasn't receiving the med for pain.

    Unfortunately, for me I turned down about 5 other jobs and took this (the wrong) one. By the time I realized how horrible it truly was, all the other jobs where taken and now I am waiting till the hospitals start hiring new grads again. Usually, only twice a year here and then new grad jobs are pretty few and far between, which I didn't know before I moved here.

    Live and learn.
  5. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from tiggertoo
    ... I was supposed to walk around the whole unit until I found one that was in use already.... I can't tell you how many complaints I got from patients as I walked in the room at the beginning of my shift about the last nurse. Many of them were to be my preceptors. My last day I had comfort care patient, her iv had infiltrated about 2100 the night before (according to her husband). This was the one hand she could still use and more importantly write with. She had oral cancer and was not able to speak, but was still very much a0x4 and would communitcate with her family by writing, very clearly, now with a hand the size of a baseball mit she was unable to. The night shift had not done anything about her IV, her bed was soak with iv solution not to mention that she wasn't receiving the med for pain...

    Live and learn.


    Sounds like they just couldn't stand it that you knew your stuff and you called them on theirs. Of course delivery can be important so they might have labeled you with having an "attitude". Still, things like that lady on nights with the infiltration - unforgiveable.

    You can certainly appeal their decision, can't you, and go over their heads? Unless you dont' want to work for those bozos ... lol. That bit about the "wrong pencil" was too much...

    Maybe you can work agency and if you find a place you like, apply there. By then they would have tried YOU on and you might have an "in". Who knows?

    Take care and good luck!
  6. by   RNHawaii34
    Quote from rn2day
    i am still searching for the strength to move on. i was called in the office yesterday and given the pink slip. i am a new grad, just graduated in may and passed nclex a couple months later and got my first job on a med surg floor.. i started work the end of july and i was on orientation and had three preceptors. the educator dilligently came around and ask me questions about my pts. basically this lady just hammered on things i told her i needed to look up. she nailed me on things i failed to answered correctly plus exaggerated . and guess what she had it all documented, correct me if i am wrong, am i suppose to answer all her questions correctly? do all nurses truly and honestly know qthing about their pts? it was the completion of my orientation and they pulled me and said byebye!! besides, my preceptor just told me how great i was doing the other day.
    it happened to me too. but before the manager fires me, i quit. don't lose hope, be happy you don't have to work with them. maybe you will feel better in other places, look for a new place to work now. there are other places out there who is willing to take you, don't worry. try not to feel bad about it. oh, it's their loss, not yours.:icon_hug:
  7. by   nurse15dc
    RN2day and Tiggertoo so sorry to hear what you went through. It would be nice if they had given you some warning or employee counseling before termination. Hope you're both doing well and find better places to work.

    I have read several times that hospitals have to report the names and reasons they terminated a nurse to the State Board of Nursing? Have you heard this?
  8. by   tiggertoo
    Thanks for the encouragement.

    I don't think that hospitals or employers in general would open themselves up to lawsuits by reporting anything to anyone. Even when you use them as references they only report the standard worked from mm/yy to mm/yy.

    I was told about two weeks out that they where “worried about me” but they could not give me any elucidation as to what I was doing wrong, just generic “how do you think you are doing” stuff. It’s a very passive aggressive place.

    I didn’t think it was that bad relative to the horror stories I was hearing from my fellow new grads at other hospitals so I probably took the “worried about me” comment too lightly and was not aggressive enough about getting and exact prescription for success. I think I was hosed at that point anyway. My experience tells me if you start getting bad vibes especially with no support or anyone on your side you are done, leave before it gets worse.

    Also, there is no such thing as an appeal during the probationary period, I doubt that appeals are heard of much in the nursing profession, especially after reading other posts on this site.

    Also, an at will employment hospital, so they really don't have to give cause and certainly won’t volunteer it.

    As far as agency nursing, no agency (I have come across anyway) will hire a new grad with less than 1 year experience. Even with 1 year of experiences, nurses I have talked to had trouble getting placements.
  9. by   teenynurse
    i have been struggling with a few nurses that just are mean, and let it go they keep writing me up for stupid sh@& give you an example i forgot to intial a med but they said they new i gave it (AB) because it was intialed and dated in the room butstill wrote me up. the nurses forget to intial i let it go, then we have blue books that we fill out after we look at the patient we have scd or compressors for your leg and i wrote yes instead of no I got written up I had enough!! so I wrote a nurse up that been riding me for not fiilling in her restraints documentation which is important and the manager told her who did it now I know she is going to be twice as bad so I am looking for a new job I dont need to come home stressing over stupid thing, so I know its not a good fid I am moving on so can everyone god bless
  10. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from TJPalone
    i have been struggling with a few nurses that just are mean, and let it go they keep writing me up for stupid sh@& give you an example i forgot to intial a med but they said they new i gave it (AB) because it was intialed and dated in the room butstill wrote me up. the nurses forget to intial i let it go, then we have blue books that we fill out after we look at the patient we have scd or compressors for your leg and i wrote yes instead of no I got written up I had enough!! so I wrote a nurse up that been riding me for not fiilling in her restraints documentation which is important and the manager told her who did it now I know she is going to be twice as bad so I am looking for a new job I dont need to come home stressing over stupid thing, so I know its not a good fid I am moving on so can everyone god bless

    So did you get written up twice total?

    It might have been better to ask the manager how to proceed (if it was only those two times), and ask what you can do to make things better. Theoretically it isn't meant to get someone fired, but to show them what they need to improve on. Unfortunately, it also feels LOUSY to be written up

    It would also be good to ask what is a good approach when YOU see deficiencies, ie the restraint log ... I admit it isn't fair if you're being written up and someone else is not! But writing someone else up out of retaliation is ALWAYS gonna backfire ...



    Hope things work out for you, God bless!
  11. by   willie03
    Quote from tiggertoo
    Same thing happened to me. After 3 months I was told I wasn't a good fit. I had had at least 20 preceptors during my orientation. Most of them gave conflicting information and couldn't explain any of their rational, e.g. you have to shake the purple top tube vigourously you know! Or, I know there is an order that you take the vials for a blood C&S but I don't know what it is. I was told by one preceptor that I used the wrong pencil when updating a Kardex! It was a pencil, not a colored pencil or anything. She just didn't want me taking a pencil from the supply cabinet, I was supposed to walk around the whole unit until I found one that was in use already.

    There was a new grad class; this was a magnet hospital after all (whoopti), where the instructors were just going through the motions. For example, they would show up without their supplies to give demos! "You all know what a butterfly looks like right, well then you put this thingy into the vein push the button and voila". Complaints about the level of instruction where made on their evaluations and were responded to with "You don't have to be here you know". Real professionals!

    Oh the part I liked best is how they loved to tell you how much money they spent on orienting each new grad, each quote went up a couple of thousand so I can't give you an exact number, anywhere between $40,000 - 45,000, I think they pulled the number out to their hat. Well, they didn't hesitate to throw that money any.

    During my tenure there I can't tell you how many complaints I got from patients as I walked in the room at the beginning of my shift about the last nurse. Many of them were to be my preceptors. My last day I had comfort care patient, her iv had infiltrated about 2100 the night before (according to her husband). This was the one hand she could still use and more importantly write with. She had oral cancer and was not able to speak, but was still very much a0x4 and would communitcate with her family by writing, very clearly, now with a hand the size of a baseball mit she was unable to. The night shift had not done anything about her IV, her bed was soak with iv solution not to mention that she wasn't receiving the med for pain.

    Unfortunately, for me I turned down about 5 other jobs and took this (the wrong) one. By the time I realized how horrible it truly was, all the other jobs where taken and now I am waiting till the hospitals start hiring new grads again. Usually, only twice a year here and then new grad jobs are pretty few and far between, which I didn't know before I moved here.

    Live and learn.
    This was a magnet hospital I thought magnet hospitals were supposed to be such great places to work.:uhoh21:
  12. by   heywazzupdude
    I'm so sorry to hear that. Whatever happens...happens. You just have to move on. :icon_roll
  13. by   EmerNurse
    I knew a new grad once who was told he needed time to get floor experience before working ER. He'd done about 6 weeks of orientation I think. So up to the floor he went - doing fine up there near as I can tell. BUT... when we're short in the ER, who do they ask to cover a shift?

    I found that amazingly unfair. If you're not good enough for the ER yet, so be it. It's not for everyone. But don't tell someone that and then use them when you're short. SHEESH!

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