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As nurses why do you guys think that medications only treat the symptoms of a disease instead of curing the disease? Is it because no one has come up any cures yet? (:rolleyes:) Or do you guys think... Read More

  1. Visit  JDZ344 profile page
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    Quote from EbonyBorn2Succeed
    Wow, ok. So all of these advances in medicine and no one has found a cure for AIDS, Diabetes, or HTN? Seriously? I'm assuming all of you here are pretty smart but drug companies rather just keep selling you pills that does'nt fix ANYTHING than to have a world of healthy people walking around. It'll cut into their pockets. Think about it people.
    The person who finds a cure for AIDS, any kind of cancer, or anything else is going to be rich. We can cure, but we can't stop people from getting them in the first place. It would be VASTLY more profitable to create a cure than to treat the symptoms.
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  2. Visit  IcanHealYou profile page
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    Ebony I see where you are coming from, but you need to do more research about how the body works and what actually needs to be done to find a "cure" for something.

    Yes, pharmaceutical companies are crooks, but they arent holding out on any miracle drug. They are only using their leverage to make a lot of money.
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    Quote from EbonyBorn2Succeed
    Wow, ok. So all of these advances in medicine and no one has found a cure for AIDS, Diabetes, or HTN? Seriously? I'm assuming all of you here are pretty smart but drug companies rather just keep selling you pills that does'nt fix ANYTHING than to have a world of healthy people walking around. It'll cut into their pockets. Think about it people.
    in some cases, diseases can prevented via vaccination. some infections can be treated with antibiotics and the infection can be "cured" but the infection can recur.

    let's take hypertension as an example, if the cause is known, pheochromocytoma, then the "cure" is possible. but, most hypertension is idiopathic . . . exact cause unknown . . . so there is no cure. there are not that many "cures" out there . . . mostly symptom management

    do you think that global warming is a conspiracy, too?
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    Quote from sunnycalifRN
    in some cases, diseases can prevented via vaccination. some infections can be treated with antibiotics and the infection can be "cured" but the infection can recur.

    let's take hypertension as an example, if the cause is known, pheochromocytoma, then the "cure" is possible. but, most hypertension is idiopathic . . . exact cause unknown . . . so there is no cure. there are not that many "cures" out there . . . mostly symptom management

    do you think that global warming is a conspiracy, too?

    No, I'm not that crazy lol
  6. Visit  EbonyBorn2Succeed profile page
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    Well I'm grateful for everyone's opinion. Everyone that I work with seems to partially or fully agree with what I say and I work with nurses even though I'm not one myself yet. Maybe some of you guys are right but contrary to popular belief the government does'nt want the american people to know everything that goes on behind the doors of "BIG BUSINESS".

    Ignorance is Not Bliss.

    And, for the poster who said he/she will like to read my paper I will gladly upload to the forum for everyone to see and make their own judgments.
  7. Visit  leslie :-D profile page
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    Quote from KatieP86
    It would be VASTLY more profitable to create a cure than to treat the symptoms.
    are you sure about that, katie?

    i had a very good friend (an elderly, retired doctor) in the 80's, and we were having one of our many, philosophical discussions.

    she swore on everything dear to her, that 'we'/america, had a cure for cancer, but 'we' make too much $$ in managing these folks with outrageously expensive treatments.
    that, if cancer could be cured, we would stand to lose billions and billions of dollars.
    her statement stayed with me, and i have always wondered if there was any merit in what she believed.

    leslie
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  8. Visit  JDZ344 profile page
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    Quote from leslie :-D
    are you sure about that, katie?

    i had a very good friend (an elderly, retired doctor) in the 80's, and we were having one of our many, philosophical discussions.

    she swore on everything dear to her, that 'we'/america, had a cure for cancer, but 'we' make too much $$ in managing these folks with outrageously expensive treatments.
    that, if cancer could be cured, we would stand to lose billions and billions of dollars.
    her statement stayed with me, and i have always wondered if there was any merit in what she believed.

    leslie
    Well, we have a socialised health system, so I am thinking from that point of view, rather than fromt he slant of someone from a country that pays for healthcare. So I guess it depends, lol. I'm pretty sure if the UK had a cancer cure, the NHS would save billions of pounds to put back into patient care.

    It's intresting to think about, no doubt!
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  9. Visit  iNurseUK profile page
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    A conspiracy against what? Common sense? What a bizarre premise.

    If a drug company could cure something common...let us say diabetes with a one-off shot of some new wonder drug they would do so but charge a high price for it. New cases of diabetes would occur all the time so ongoing sales of a drug that does not cure but controls...insulin would be offset and insulin is relatively cheap.

    Also bear in mind that some drugs are very expensive. Some of the newer chemotherapy agents for example. Now I work in the NHS which cannot always justify the cost and may refuse to use such drugs without a clear-cut clinical record. Does THAT benefit the drug company?

    The whole notion of cures being concealed by the pharmaceutical industry is ludicrous. If they could make money from it why keep it secret?
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  10. Visit  IcanHealYou profile page
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    Magic Johnson found a cure for HIV. It's called sleeping with loads and loads of money. Haha South park reference, i wonder if anyone here knows it.
  11. Visit  sunnycalifRN profile page
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    Quote from leslie :-D
    are you sure about that, katie?

    i had a very good friend (an elderly, retired doctor) in the 80's, and we were having one of our many, philosophical discussions.

    she swore on everything dear to her, that 'we'/america, had a cure for cancer, but 'we' make too much $$ in managing these folks with outrageously expensive treatments.
    that, if cancer could be cured, we would stand to lose billions and billions of dollars.
    her statement stayed with me, and i have always wondered if there was any merit in what she believed.

    leslie
    My understanding is that most cancer is environmentally caused . . . radiation, chemicals, pollutants, etc . . . Even if a particular type of cancer could be cured, as in eliminating the environmental trigger, there are plenty of cancers that remain for the drug companies to make megabucks from.
  12. Visit  iNurseUK profile page
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    How come my hospital spends so much time and money on trialling new drugs?

    If we knew the cure for all the myriad and complex different forms cancer can take then we would certainly be using it
  13. Visit  sunnycalifRN profile page
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    Quote from EbonyBorn2Succeed
    Well I'm grateful for everyone's opinion. Everyone that I work with seems to partially or fully agree with what I say and I work with nurses even though I'm not one myself yet. Maybe some of you guys are right but contrary to popular belief the government does'nt want the american people to know everything that goes on behind the doors of "BIG BUSINESS".

    Ignorance is Not Bliss.

    And, for the poster who said he/she will like to read my paper I will gladly upload to the forum for everyone to see and make their own judgments.
    I'm certainly not an apologist for the pharmaceutical industry and I agree that "Big Business" does not always have our best interests at heart. But, I doubt that the pharmaceutical industry is holding back lots of cures for diseases because in so many cases, modern medicine does not know the cause to start with.


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