My nursing student didn’t take me seriously because of my age - page 2

I wasn't planning on posting my encounter with this student I had a semester ago. Until the student's clinical instructor returned to my unit the following semester. I was pulled aside and was given... Read More

  1. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from tara07733

    I mean, can you imagine going to a department as a student nurse and actually debating with the practicing nurse about MULTIPLE treatments?!! One of the craziest things I've ever heard . Just last week I was shadowing a nurse that I'm sure I had a good 10+ years on (age) and I was all ears and deferred to her on EVERYTHING.
    It happens more often than you might think, and it really doesn't seem to matter if the nurse is younger, older or the same age as the student.
  2. by   TriciaJ
    Quote from Ruby Vee
    It happens more often than you might think, and it really doesn't seem to matter if the nurse is younger, older or the same age as the student.
    Exactly. I've had many students who thought they were there to run their own program. That's where a sensible nursing instructor is worth her weight in gold. Some instructors, however, dump their students onto unsuspecting nurses and disappear for the day. And provide no way for you to communicate how the student did. You end up feeling like you just babysat someone's loose cannon of a child for the day. For free.
  3. by   Toadette
    Quote from TriciaJ
    Exactly. I've had many students who thought they were there to run their own program. That's where a sensible nursing instructor is worth her weight in gold. Some instructors, however, dump their students onto unsuspecting nurses and disappear for the day. And provide no way for you to communicate how the student did. You end up feeling like you just babysat someone's loose cannon of a child for the day. For free.
    Wow. That's insane to me. My clinical instructors were always on the floor with us and we did not do anything without checking with the instructor first. Our clinical instructors checked our med pass, supervised the administration of meds, supervised dressing changes, and other skills as we learned them. The nurses on the floor loved having students because we decreased their workload. The floor nurses were available for questions but absolutely were not responsible for our education.

    I keep reading stories like this and I'm coming to appreciate my nursing program more and more as time go by. How do nursing programs guarantee any sort of quality without supervising nursing students?
  4. by   Toadette
    OP, I'm sorry you had that experience. It's amazing that you kept your cool through out this experience!! Something tells me that the student won't be successful in the program with that attitude.

    No matter our age, we can learn something new at any time. I don't remember who said it but there's a famous quote that every person you meet knows something you don't. Too bad this student hadn't learned this lesson.
  5. by   JKL33
    I would've given this individual a chance or two and then gone on about my day. I feel I have a duty to help those who are eager to learn nursing (I love it, actually), but I feel no obligation towards those who don't want to learn or who want to play games. This "gentleman" would've been trailing me for the day or else he may have chosen to work out something different with his instructor. NMP.
  6. by   ocjulia
    Wow. I'm so sorry that happened. If this guy is unable to collaborate with people of all ages, he's going to be a terrible doctor.

    I'm 13 years older than the nurse orienting me right now - and she's AWESOME. I'm learning so much from her.
  7. by   Apple-Core
    I hope I get a preceptor like you!

    I've heard some horror stories about preceptors leaving the students standing around for hours on end, or berating them in front of patients, or being so intimidating and condescending that the students leave in tears.

    From what you have described I would have been in hog-heaven having all that patient instruction, guidance, and education! Keep up the good work, and don't let this arrogant pleb put you off being a great preceptor to future students!
  8. by   Medic/Nurse
    You were awesome.

    However, a student with a bad attitude is unlikely to ever get a better attitude. No matter what. It will not matter how old they get, who their preceptor is or what program they study. The scary part for me is if this student becomes a clinician in any discipline they just become a clinician with a bad attitude and ain't nobody got time for that. Patients deserve better, anyone that is unfortunate enough to work with losers like this deserve better. This student needs to be shown that selling Amway might be a better fit than any role in healthcare. I mean this.

    Help them find their next grand adventure. Call the Dean for a sit down if the clinical instruction staff can't eliminate him. This dude is a dangerous person. Medical schools should be made aware as well.

  9. by   ForensicNurse2997
    I cant stop thinking about the nurses that will have to work with him when/if he becomes a doctor.
  10. by   Flatline
    This sucks, I am sorry OP.

    Keep in mind that these sort of hubristic displays can sometimes be defense mechanisms compensating for their own perceived shortcomings. Keep in mind that him seeing a strong, competent, more successful, younger nurse could have been hitting his ego hard. Men tend to attack perceived threats directly when threatened so in his mind he may have been trying to justify attacking your competence to justify his lack thereof.

    Sucks to deal with this but take it as a complement, you are so amazing you blew his insecure mind.
  11. by   Simonesays
    Quote from ForensicNurse2997
    I cant stop thinking about the nurses that will have to work with him when/if he becomes a doctor.
    Hopefully he will have learned some lessons by then. Otherwise, he will probably be receiving lots of phone calls regarding his orders.

    "I just wanted to clarify your order for Mrs. P. It states that you want me to provide orange juice STAT because her K+ is 3.2..."
  12. by   JackDawson23
    Do you guys live in Mayberry? Everyone knows everybody's business But seriously, how did you know he was just doing the nursing program to get into medical school? And why did his instructor allow all those things in the first place? So many questions...but you did good nonetheless.
  13. by   TriciaJ
    Quote from Toadette
    Wow. That's insane to me. My clinical instructors were always on the floor with us and we did not do anything without checking with the instructor first. Our clinical instructors checked our med pass, supervised the administration of meds, supervised dressing changes, and other skills as we learned them. The nurses on the floor loved having students because we decreased their workload. The floor nurses were available for questions but absolutely were not responsible for our education.

    I keep reading stories like this and I'm coming to appreciate my nursing program more and more as time go by. How do nursing programs guarantee any sort of quality without supervising nursing students?
    They don't guarantee any quality. I overheard one nursing instructor tell a student "In this program you set your own learning goals." ***** And no student ever decreased my work load.

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