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No. 10
from feebebe23
Old Nov 13, 2009, 01:11 PM

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Don't get me started on this one! GRRRRRR! Guess what happens when you start writing up, disiplining, firing nurses over med errors? They stop reporting med errors. Obviously, if you have the same nurse repeating certain errors (like not giving a vitamin) you have to address the problem. However, a supportive environment with proper education is much more likely to get the results you want.
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No. 11
from bdgmpark
Old Nov 13, 2009, 04:37 PM

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What about meds signed as given, but the meds were left in the med cart? The meds were signed as given, but not given. I believe incident reports are needed.
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No. 12
Old Nov 13, 2009, 05:11 PM

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I had a near miss during my days of nursing school ..the patient that I was taking care of (pospartum floor ) was a diabetic who had an order for two different types of insulin..being unexperienced student and all I mixed up doses between those two-and thank good my teacher double checked my med preparation and caught my mistake,I was really terrified and beat up my self for not double checking such high alert drug as insulin! I know that in perfect world another nurses should double check draw up insulins but sometimes the other nurse is busy or is not present there or might not even care and just quickly glance the insulin syringe and pretend to "look",basically you are responsible for you own four letters...
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No. 13
from wooh
Old Nov 14, 2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Virgo_RN View Post
To be honest, an incident report over a multivitamin does seem a bit extreme.
But that nurse might be diverting multivitamins! And multivitamins are a gateway drug to glycerin suppositories!

Making drug errors punitive only encourages covering up "the crime." Not to mention, it places the blame on one person, instead of the system which usually has plenty of blame to go around.
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No. 14
from Sewbusy~RN
Old Nov 14, 2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by feebebe23 View Post
Don't get me started on this one! GRRRRRR! Guess what happens when you start writing up, disiplining, firing nurses over med errors? They stop reporting med errors. Obviously, if you have the same nurse repeating certain errors (like not giving a vitamin) you have to address the problem. However, a supportive environment with proper education is much more likely to get the results you want.


Seriously!
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No. 15
Old Nov 14, 2009, 09:06 PM

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Thank you all for responding. I think it is a bit extreme to write a nurse up over a medication error, but since this is the only facility I have worked out I wanted to check. Every medication error made at our facility (whether it's the actual nurse who gave the medication that discovered it or another nurse that discovers it) has to fill out an incident report. Within the next few days, that nurse is written up for their medication error. If we have 3 write-ups we are dismissed! I agree with a few of the other posters who stated that medication errors should be documented to prevent the same thing from happening again! I don't believe that nurse should be punished though!!! Especially if the nurse realized her mistake, called her supervisor, called the doctor, and filled out an incident report. I think it's punishment enough that the nurse made the error and she/he feels guilty about it.

Heres another thing about my job that I don't agree with. Some nurses don't get written up at all! Here is an example. I'm not going to name the medication (I don't want people from my work finding me on here, lol). One nurse forgot to administer an important medication because she was busy and side-tracked. This nurse did not get punished at all. Another nurse gave the wrong medication to the wrong pateint, cried, and called her supervisor and the patients doctor...and she got written up the next day. This happens quite a bit! It seems as though some nurses are "favorites" of the supervisors and they don't get punished. I feel bad for the ones that do.
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No. 16
Old Nov 14, 2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by feebebe23 View Post
Don't get me started on this one! GRRRRRR! Guess what happens when you start writing up, disiplining, firing nurses over med errors? They stop reporting med errors. Obviously, if you have the same nurse repeating certain errors (like not giving a vitamin) you have to address the problem. However, a supportive environment with proper education is much more likely to get the results you want.
I cannot agree more!!! Thank you for posting.
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No. 17
Old Nov 14, 2009, 10:53 PM
Updated Nov 14, 2009 at 10:58 PM by Vito Andolini

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Originally Posted by Michigan View Post
I disagree regarding having Dr. write order to cover the error. If the med was given or missed prior to the order, then a med error occurred. An order after the fact does not change the timeline. However, I also disagree about med errors as a reason for firing- unless there is pattern or very far from normal. Med errors should be used to track why the error occurred and find / solve the problem to prevent another.
In a non-punitive environment, yes. When punitive conditions prevail, staff are forced to survive and protect themselves.

Also, does timeline matter? A vit can be taken any time. It's not critical. And lots of meds fall into that territory.

Also, how about when you have too many pts to pass meds for and there's no way you can give all your meds within the 2 hour framework most of us are familiar with? You'd be writing incident reports all day long.

And please note: I said HARMLESS errors. If the pt is harmed, it's another story. Salvaging the patient absolutely comes first.

And Skittlebear's post above sums it up so well - some get punished, some don't. Selective enforcement of the rules. It stinks and should stop but will always be with us. It's just human nature. Another reason to get Doc to cover you for harmless errors.
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