Male Nurses. - page 8

SO as a Male looking to become a Nurse one day... Is what they say true? Can a Male Nurse really find better jobs with better pay much easier than most Women Nurses? Are the amount of Men in... Read More

  1. by   karenG
    Tom.......reminds me of the comments one of my nurse friends made...............when challanged by a sister asking if he felt inferior surrounded by women, he smiled and said ' no sister, after all, I have the ability to fertilize the entire female population of the world'!!!!!!!!!!! such a sweet moment, the sister concerned was a PITA!!

    Karen
  2. by   Katnip
    What I don't understand is this obsession with male nurses being gay. What is up with that?

    Yes, I know a couple of gay nurses. Most I know are not. I knew a few more lesbian nurses. I never hear whispers about them.

    And if someone is homosexual, what difference does that make in care?
  3. by   RN2007
    I hope not to ruffle any male nurses feathers and certainly do not want to show disrespect toward ANY male nurse or other male practitioner, dr., etc. However, as a female myself, I would have to say that if I were in the hospital and if I could not perform my own bathing or other ADL, I would request that a note be placed on my patient chart that only a female nurse, aide, etc., be the one to provide this type care, because I would not feel comfortable with a man doing this. In the past 14 years, I have always had female gynecologists or PA perform my physicals. Of course, this might cause me to be inconvienced at times, if a female staff member is busy ,etc., and I understand this, but I purposely schedule my appointments this way, and my husband and family knows to request this for me if I am not able to do it for myself in a hospital, etc. When I used to work in a hospital many years ago, I heard many women whisper to me, "Is their a lady Dr. or lady nurse on staff?" Thank goodness, these days we no longer have to be ashamed to ask for what we want, and sometimes we might even get it. Also, in one of the threads on this forum it was nice to hear a male nurse say that due to knowing how some ladies feel that many times the staff splits up duties where the male nurses does the mens ADL and women nurses does the womens ADL, etc..., however I am sure it is not possible most of the time.

    Please, I hope not to get flamed by male nurses, etc.,. I am 100% positive that the men are just as qualified to do the same nursing care, etc., but that is not the point here. Some patients are more modest than others, and some patients wish they had the guts to say something about it but just don't, and it really has nothing to do with not trusting a man, but in todays times when we are given choices, and the right to express our preferences, we should tell our health care providers what we would like. I am sure it is the same with some men not liking that women changing their diapers, etc because it is embarrassing for anybody to change them, if you think about it! When I worked in psychiatrics, I heard this exact same thing come from a very cute older man when he said to me, "Miss, can you tell me why you don't have an orderly do this, cause this is embarrassing!!...
    But I know, I know... If we had to accomodate bunches of people like this all the time, nurses would never get anything done. It does make you think though or rather makes me think, lol...
  4. by   Tweety
    Originally posted by RN2007
    I hope not to ruffle any male nurses feathers and certainly do not want to show disrespect toward ANY male nurse or other male practitioner, dr., etc. However, as a female myself, I would have to say that if I were in the hospital and if I could not perform my own bathing or other ADL, I would request that a note be placed on my patient chart that only a female nurse, aide, etc., be the one to provide this type care, because I would not feel comfortable with a man doing this. In the past 14 years, I have always had female gynecologists or PA perform my physicals. Of course, this might cause me to be inconvienced at times, if a female staff member is busy ,etc., and I understand this, but I purposely schedule my appointments this way, and my husband and family knows to request this for me if I am not able to do it for myself in a hospital, etc. When I used to work in a hospital many years ago, I heard many women whisper to me, "Is their a lady Dr. or lady nurse on staff?" Thank goodness, these days we no longer have to be ashamed to ask for what we want, and sometimes we might even get it. Also, in one of the threads on this forum it was nice to hear a male nurse say that due to knowing how some ladies feel that many times the staff splits up duties where the male nurses does the mens ADL and women nurses does the womens ADL, etc..., however I am sure it is not possible most of the time.

    Please, I hope not to get flamed by male nurses, etc.,. I am 100% positive that the men are just as qualified to do the same nursing care, etc., but that is not the point here. Some patients are more modest than others, and some patients wish they had the guts to say something about it but just don't, and it really has nothing to do with not trusting a man, but in todays times when we are given choices, and the right to express our preferences, we should tell our health care providers what we would like. I am sure it is the same with some men not liking that women changing their diapers, etc because it is embarrassing for anybody to change them, if you think about it! When I worked in psychiatrics, I heard this exact same thing come from a very cute older man when he said to me, "Miss, can you tell me why you don't have an orderly do this, cause this is embarrassing!!...
    But I know, I know... If we had to accomodate bunches of people like this all the time, nurses would never get anything done. It does make you think though or rather makes me think, lol...
    No flame here, I've run into that situation many times, if a patient isn't comfortable with me, then I'm not comfortable with them. It doesn't mean I feel unqualified or unable. Usually there are enough females that one can help, but sometimes they are stuck with me or stuck waiting a long time, it's their choice.

    I don't cath alert and oriented females without another female in the room, so I just ask the female to do it while I step out. It's not a fair and equal world. But as a male md must have a female present to do the gyn exam, I expect a female present during pericare with an alert and oriented female. It's not a fair and equal world sometimes.

    Truth be known, I'm a little shy in that area as well and if intimate care is needed, such as a catheter I'm going to request a male nurse or CNA to help me. I prefer male MDs, but if a female comes into the room to examine, I won't send her away, but if I choose a primary who is male. So I know what you are saying. Most men, however, especially oldermen don't mind females doing intimate care at all. There isn't always equality.
  5. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Tweety, Just a thought: If you are worried about cathing females who are alert and oriented, I would think you would be EVEN MORE careful with those DISORIENTED or incapacitated mentally..... I might just have a "chaperone" or "assistant" in ANY case where you are doing personal care for a female, if this is how you feel. What makes a change/alteration in mental status different, I am just wondering?
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    tom, that post works for me! good for you!!!
  7. by   flaerman
    Michael, I have been an RN for 17 years and absolutely love what I do, but guy, I have never made anymore money for having testicles than my female friends and co-workers. To even ask that makes me question your dedication to our profession. There are lots of jobs out there and most do not hire someone based on their sex. You get hired based on your knpwledge and skills. Men tend to gravitate more towards being an anesthetist and into critical care more so than the floors. I started out on a PCU unit and have done med-surg and oncology as well, have also worked ICU and now am an ER RN and wouldn't trade it for the world. Yes there are more men in nursing and I have met many good nurses as well as some not not so good nurses both male and female. I have always found that people I've told that I am an RN have always thought a lot of nurses in general. My patients are sometimes surprised that I am as kind and caring with them as I am. I am 6' and weigh 240 lbs, grew up hanging in gangs and fighting but have put that all that aside. My goal is to treat each patient the same way that I want to be treated and it works very well. Good luck in the profession...Paul
  8. by   hogan4736
    My experience in the ER has always been men cath men/boys
    women cath females/girls

    and if a female patient asks for a female nurse, no hard feelings here...people want what they want...
  9. by   Tweety
    Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes
    Tweety, Just a thought: If you are worried about cathing females who are alert and oriented, I would think you would be EVEN MORE careful with those DISORIENTED or incapacitated mentally..... I might just have a "chaperone" or "assistant" in ANY case where you are doing personal care for a female, if this is how you feel. What makes a change/alteration in mental status different, I am just wondering?
    Good point. Let me clarify. I don't cath the confused ones either without a female present. I was thinking more comatose and should have used that world. Working in nuero, those females who were in a permanent vegetative state and needed to be cathed and no one was around I might consider going in the room alone. But disoriented and confused and female can be a potential situation. Quite frankly cathing females is not my best skill. My skill is inserting ng's and doing ngt suctioning. I'm helpful enough with coworkers that usually if I need a co-worker to assist with intimate care, there's no resentment.
  10. by   mark_LD_RN
    Originally posted by Anabolic_One
    Have to say, I agree with Karen_G.......what does it matter if they remember you because you are a man....no big deal..they might just as easy remember you if you wore neon green scrubs to work everyday...right ?
    And although I am no vet in this field, only beginning my venture...Gender will always be an issue.....just the way things are......let it slide off your back bro.
    As far as being a hinderance because you are a male....I dont feel that is true in my Geographic area...Most of the nurses that work in ER in two near by hospitals are male.....very obvious.....I am taking a guess -does the LD in your name stand for Labor and Delivery--if thats the area then yeah I could for see you having problems getting interviews (but Im sure thats a whole seperate thread)..... I have been told that I should have no problems getting interviews when I complete my program
    ANABOLICONE--- let me address and clarify a few things for you.

    1) it does not matter if they remember me if I am male. but it does matter to me If my coworkers or other nurses tell me the only reason the ONLY reason they remember me is because I am male.

    2) yes it has been a hinderance being a male not just in LD. I had been denied jobs and positions in other areas ie ICU and psych at a couple of hospitals and it was based on gender alone. proof of that came from one DON's comment and the other hospital I applied after DON quit and was hired with in 2 weeks. I never said you could not or would not get hired as a male. just that it has created a problem that should not be there.thankfully that is changing as some of the older nurses retire or leave.

    3) as far as LD that is my current field. and yes It is more of a hinderance being male appling there. but it should not be. I have proven that at ever place I have worked LD. patients love me,request me,so much so that I take on private patients that insist i be here when they deliver.

    non of your post was taken in a bad way just thought i would try to clarify what i meant for you and others.
  11. by   mark_LD_RN
    RN2007

    thats is your right to request who cares for you, I would not be offended in the least if a patient refused to have me care for her based on gender, that is your choice I do not have to agree with it but it is your right to do so. but I would be extremely mad if you were A DON and would not hire me because of my gender no matter what your beliefs are.

    as far as cathing females ,doing adl's or intimate care for them, I have always done it but i always ask a patients permission to care for them when i introduce my self at the begining of the shift and before I provide any such care. and like some one else said here, If the patient is not comfortable with me then I am not comfortable with them and would prefer not to care for that person.

    and as far as GENDER ASSIGNMENTS, I do not tolerate them we split the patients by acuity when i work other floors PERIOD. if a patient does not want me or another nurse to care for them then we will trade patients.

    and on the topic of who cares for me or my family members it does not matter what gender,race or sexual preference is, THE ONLY requirement that I have is that they are qualified to do care,I want the best quailified most caring nurse available period, be if female, white ,black green or any other color, homosexual, lesbian or hetrosexual. all i want is the best care possible.

    the issue of a female must be present when a male doc or nurse provides care is not a law in most states and should not be. some hospitals make this requirement some don't. I do not use a chaperone when providing care for female patients unless the patient requests it. one the subject of it being a requirement the "patients bill of rights " states a patient may request a chaperone during exams and procedures . the chaperone does not have to be of the opposite sex, and this bill is the same for male and female patients. the chaperone may also be a family member or friend it does not have to be a medical personnel. the male doctors that say it is required it is just their preference. thankfully this is changing also.

    I work in the ER also and i cath my own patients there also, male or female. one thing i could never figure out is why ER and radiology will call LD to get someone to cath female patients. and never ask the patient if they mind. I end up going down to cath them and the patients have no problem with it. It just goes to show the mind set of nurses in general. this old idea has been beat into their heads until they think it is the truth.

    I hope my posts are not taken as whinning as some one said earlier. I just like to state the truth and my opinions and make sure they are clear I do not expect to convert any one to my view just want it clear.


    I still hate the term MALE NURSE, and I know plenty of doctors who hate to be called lady doctor or female doctor because of their gender. I think they deserve the same respect as themen who are doctors, just as I think I and others of my gender who are nurses desrve the same respect as or female coworkers.

    yes males can make good nurses, and males can provide care for females, believe it or not


    in the end let me say I love being a nurse, I love what i do,so much so that I do it for less than half the money I used to make ,by my own choice. I encourge people who truely want to help people to become a nurse all the time.
  12. by   MR.PICURN
    I'm a 5'10 200 (+) something pound male nurse who works in PICU. I often here the female nurses say how nice it is to have a big (no real emphasis on big) strong man around the unit who happens to also be a nurse. The patient and the parents often say how nice it is to have a male nurse instead of a female. One parent said to me that his son felt more comfortable with another guy helping him. It must be a guy thing. As far a pay goes, unions keep things equal amoung the ranks of men and women alike. However I do make more than my wife who is also an RN with 10+ years more experience than I........ Hummmmmm
  13. by   GPatty
    We had a couple of men in our nursing class. I hope they are doing well. They worked just as hard as the females did, and they deserve the same oppertunities as females in this profession.
    Good Luck to you!

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