Major venting about some CNA's - page 17

First, let me say that I am not venting against all CNA's or even most...I've been one myself. I know how hard they work. I applaude the good ones. My problem is the majority of the ones at... Read More

  1. by   lateblumer
    i personally don't believe that it is our job to take patients out to smoke. not to preach, but we all know that smoking is bad for you. if you are in the hospital, HELLO!, don't you think it would be best to NOT smoke. i don't think it is very professional to see a whole butt-hut full of healthcare workers standing around with sick patients burning up their lungs. Besides, if you've ever had to take care of a newborn going thru withdrawals from a two or three pack a day mom, we all might reconsider.



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  2. by   yogastudentRN
    Well, where I work PCT's do Accu-checks and initiate the low blood sugar protocol within 10 minutes of a critical low.......without the nurse if the nurse cannot be located.

    I do have to say though, we get a LOT more training to work in a hospital than PCT's who work in LTC.
  3. by   rebelwaclause
    (Now I see what it looks like when I change the topic of a thread! (hehehe)...)

    What's next....Cocaine escorts? Liquor runs for patients? hosting a hash night out for all patients interested meet in conference room A?

    Pul-eeeeze!

    If they're that well for recreational stuff they can take their happy-butts (literally) home.

    If I didn't state this before, here it is...I wouldn't take a patient anywhere to do anything other than a treatment, test or something pertaining to nursing. Period.
  4. by   jones58
    Sounds like she doesn't have much faith in her aides. In my facility, only nurses do glucoscans. If you didn't trust your aides, would you really feel comfortable giving insulin based on the BS's they got??
  5. by   Gromit
    Well, in our facility, if a patient has the doctors permission to leave (or in other words, the pt is not in isolation or restrained ala baker act) they may step outside for a smoke, but we do not escort them (nor would I do so. THAT is NOT a nursing function, and I do not feel its right to place myself in their presence while sucking on their cigarrettes, spitting tobacco or whatever.

    If you are in the facility, I will help you, do all that is required, and even things that are not required. But those that have no wish to get better, please go somewhere else.
  6. by   kids
    Originally posted by Flo1216
    kids-r-fun
    she who talks to cats-
    "You can never be to thin, to rich or have to many cats."


    I have 2 cats that need to be adopted.....
    Sorry, I gotta hold off on getting anymore for a while...I have 2 that are foster cats but after 3 months haven't gotten a home and the husband is starting to think he's been scammed (as if I would ever pull a fast one and add more cats to our household without telling him!) :stone

    We'll talk once George & Gracie (matched pair of elderly Persians) go to a permanent home, I'll need replacements and 10 is such a nice round number (tho an even dozen wouldn't be bad either).
  7. by   austin heart
    Originally posted by Susy K
    Here's my question.

    Say you work with a bunch of non-smokers who refuse to take patients out for smoke breaks? Then what? Who does it then?

    Isn't it along the same lines of refusing to take care of a TB, AIDS, pneumonia or other infectious patient because it's bad for your health?
    i do believe you are comparing apples and oranges here. can you really not see this difference?!
    slap a patch on them. they came to a hospital to get help for their illness. if they don't want to follow the rules, they are free to go home the exact way they came in.
  8. by   Q.
    Um NO Austin, I was questioning based on MY experiences as a nurse. And I was asking, not making a STATEMENT that they are in fact, the same. Yeesh.

    I worked in OB; people didn't "come" to my floor to "get help for their illness" as you say because pregnancy is not an illness. But what I COULD see happening is a patient who needs to be escorted (for liability reasons perhaps) outside to smoke and everyone on the floor refusing to do so because of second-hand smoke dangers.

    We escorted our patients outside, and waited inside the glass doors while the patient sat immediately outside in our view. And yes, this was delegated to the aides if we were too busy, when we finally got aides.
    Last edit by Susy K on Dec 28, '02
  9. by   ktwlpn
    Originally posted by Flo1216
    What the heck is an RPN? And speaking of breaks, I hate when I have a pt screaming in pain and the RN says, " He'll have to wait-I'm on break" and the covering RN says, " Wait until Nancy gets back from break," and the pt blames ME. That's not cool.
    A conscientious and well organized nurse will attempt to anticipate her pts needs before she goes to break ...and a co-worker is always left to cover those pts when she is at break if they need anything-...If the nurse always goes to break leaving her group hollering for meds and her co-workers are refusing to cover for her then go to the nurse manager....
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Suzy yours must have been a FAT-STAFFED floor for you to have time to stand at glass doors, watching people smoke. WHERE I WORK there is NO TIME TO DO ALL WE HAVE TO DO in the way of teaching, beyond basics, let alone all the niceties, like TRUE labor support..(beyond getting an epidural started for someone)........let ALONE escorting a smoker out to do something I am totally against, healthwise. Like I said before, on my radar screen of priorities, this is not even a blip.
  11. by   tattooednursie
    I don't smoke that much, only as much as I have stated in previous posts, and they still make me go out and smoke patients. I think its stupid though.
  12. by   Furball
    If ever I'm a pt in a hospital, somebody better make me a double martini at 2200 sharp dammit!


    :chuckle
  13. by   Q.
    Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes
    Suzy yours must have been a FAT-STAFFED floor for you to have time to stand at glass doors, watching people smoke. WHERE I WORK there is NO TIME TO DO ALL WE HAVE TO DO in the way of teaching, beyond basics, let alone all the niceties, like TRUE labor support..(beyond getting an epidural started for someone)........let ALONE escorting a smoker out to do something I am totally against, healthwise. Like I said before, on my radar screen of priorities, this is not even a blip.
    No Deb, we were as short-staffed as the rest. We were also an LDRP; if labor was slow, we'd help with post-partum. The POINT I am making is someone had to escort the patient, per our hospital policy - whether it's for smoking or for discharge. I am not a smoker, I hate smoke and am against smoking; I also hate epidurals too but monitor my patients who have one. My point is, someone on our floor had to do it, and if we all cried "it's bad for our health" or "I don't agree with it" I guess I'm not sure what would've happened or who would've gotten it done.

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