Nurses Helping Nurses
allnurses Network: Central | Jobs | Books | Newsletter
allnurses: A Nursing Community for Nurses
Home General News Blogs Articles Students Region Specialty Degrees F.A.Q.
General Nursing Discussion /

Jcaho



Did You Know?
allnurses is the largest community for nurses on the web. We now have over 388,052 members! Join today to network with other nurses, laugh, share, and much more.
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Aug 14, 2008 01:57 AM

Jcaho

by TraciRN

I am looking at an ER job and a Non JCAHO hospital. What are the pros and cons of JCAHO?
Thanks Traci


Share

Search Tags
None
Top

 
Advertisement
Sponsored Links
 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Reply
10 Comments
No. 1
from jmtndl
Old Aug 14, 2008, 04:59 AM

Default Re: Jcaho
I imagine at a non- JCAHO hospital you might find something stored under a sink.They are so worthless that I cannot imagine it would make a whit of difference!
Top

1 Reader Gave Kudos
 
No. 2
Old Aug 14, 2008, 05:05 AM

Default Re: Jcaho
Joint Commission sets the standards for hospitals, derived from evidence-based patient practice. As much as I complain about the paperwork that's generated, I would not work in a hospital that was not accredited.

I would encourage you to research what Joint Commission is and why it exists.

http://www.jointcommission.org/Accre...ams/Hospitals/
Top

1 Reader Gave Kudos
 
No. 3
from mpccrn
Old Aug 14, 2008, 02:56 PM

Default Re: Jcaho
if JCAHO really wanted to know what was going on they'd come unannounced every time.....not set a date and time to review a unit...giving everyone time to clean up the place before they show up. what's the big deal about throwing a pillow case over an open dirty linen bin??? or why not have coffee at the desk?? it probably is the only place i'll have the time to take a drink! let's be real....while JCAHO rules and regs are good on paper, they really don't occur unless they are in the building.
Top

3 Readers Gave Kudos
 
No. 4
from SteveRN21
Old Aug 14, 2008, 03:12 PM

Default Re: Jcaho
JCAHO does not announce visits. My hospital, and the last one I worked in had to be prepared for a visit anytime during the year.

My understanding is that Medicare/Medicaid will not pay for care at an unaccredited hospital.
Top

2 Readers Gave Kudos
 
No. 5
from mcknis
Old Aug 14, 2008, 04:48 PM

Default Re: Jcaho
Not sure of the exact details, but I am aware that hospitals do not have to be Joint Commission accredited. In order to receive medicare coverage, this might not be true. JC is pretty ridiculous IMO, and regs aren't followed to the T until JC walks through the doors. Even our units remain the same during in-house surveys (non-JC) and return to normal after the surveys are completed. Everybody wants the top score, but no one wants to do the work to get there or to maintain said scores. Argh, to JC!!!
Top

2 Readers Gave Kudos
 
No. 6
Old Aug 14, 2008, 06:07 PM

Default Re: Jcaho
It is true that they are supposed to come unannounced, now, but I think that is a load of crock. Our administrators had those surveyors trailed to the point where they knew their names and personalities by the time they got to us. If they moved from a certain geographical area, we knew that we were 'safe' for the week. As they migrated closer, we were forced to remain overtime to clean up our mess.

When they finally did come, they somehow avoided the 'biggy' areas such as the ER, Coumadin Clinic, Medical Clinic and even the ICU. I swear, I think that some of them were friends with our CEO and did him a favor.
Top
 
No. 7
from mshultz
Old Aug 15, 2008, 05:11 PM

Default Re: Jcaho
Originally Posted by mcknis View Post
...Everybody wants the top score, but no one wants to do the work to get there or to maintain said scores...
One of the great truths about life in general. Another one is:

Everything is a compromise (so when you hear an ad about a product with no compromises, it's time to hit the Mute button, or turn the channel).
Top
 
No. 8
from Daytonite
Old Aug 15, 2008, 07:51 PM

A non-JCAHO hospital can have 2 meanings:
  1. they may be directly accredited by Medicare - in which case thing will go on just as if they were JCAHO accredited. Some hospitals have gotten so put off with JCAHO that they have just opted to go through a Medicare inspection instead which is absolutely OK with the Medicare people
  2. they may not be accredited at all - the only drawback to this is that they cannot bill Medicare or MedicAid for services they provide to these patients nor can they bill these patients for the services unless they tell them that Medicare isn't going to pay and that they must pay out of their own pocket. That means you are likely to have grumbly patients. It also puts you ER people in an awkward position if someone half dead stumbles into your ER needing immediate life saving care. You can't just let them die because they can't pay.
Top
 
No. 9
Old Aug 15, 2008, 08:12 PM

Default Re: Jcaho
Originally Posted by SteveRN21 View Post
JCAHO does not announce visits. My hospital, and the last one I worked in had to be prepared for a visit anytime during the year.

My understanding is that Medicare/Medicaid will not pay for care at an unaccredited hospital.
Technically, no they are not announced, but since that came into effect (at least in MI), the facility I worked at seemed to have a "general idea" when JCAHO would be coming.
Top
 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Reply




Thread Tools


Who's Online
308 members
2,672 guests
2,980

5

California Imposes Stricter Rules Regarding Drug Abuse In...

10

Are older nurses being forced out of the profession?

1

An outlook in California?

8

Australian surgeons successfully separate conjoined twins

40

Disruptive behavior by doctors, nurses persists a year...

31

Woman sues after police tackle her in ER during premature...

5

Beyond The Last Lecture -For Randy & Jai Pausch nurses...

17

WHO: Give at-risk groups anti-flu drugs early

21

Nursing, medical schools should work together, experts say

6

Army nurse honored after 100th birthday



1

Society Needs Care Too

11

Why am I doing this, anyway?

2

Nurse Heal Thyself

9

My Papa, why I am the nurse I am today.

17

I made it through

11

An angel's gaze

14

A Sister Never Forgets

16

Ruby's Marbles

37

What Do Operating Room Nurses Do?

14

My Little Old Jedi

20

I love this job......

23

"I hear voices"

19

Preventing FRUTI (Foley Related Urinary Tract Infection) in...

24

Error and Attitude

10

It's Just a Shower





Sponsored Links

Currently Reading This Page: 1 (0 members & 1 guests)

Interested in the hottest topics of the week? Subscribe to the Nurse-zine Newsletter.
Enter email address: