Is There An AllDoctors.com? - page 3

I was discussing with a friend that is a physician about the wonderful world of allnurses; the resources, camradarie and support we give each other here. He asked if there was such a site for... Read More

  1. by   indigo girl
    Quote from zenman
    Why not? I've argued with them so much that sometimes they go berserk and attack me and the mods close the thread down, he, he.
    Really? That's so funny, because I have this completely different
    picture of you. You know, sort of zen...
  2. by   ERNurse752
    I rather enjoy studentdoctor.net - I joined awhile back and haven't really noticed anything shockingly offensive.

    Everyone bashes someone sometimes, whether it's ER vs. floor, RNs vs MDs, NPs vs PAs, Lindsay vs Paris, etc etc etc.
  3. by   Grace Oz
    Quote from P_RN
    http://alldoctors.com/

    Actually according to my address bar there is an alldoctors.com so not actually a mirror image com vs net. But it's blue and that's my favorite color.
    GO the Aussies! This site is based in Sydney, Australia!
    Just had to boast!
  4. by   zenman
    Quote from indigo girl
    Really? That's so funny, because I have this completely different
    picture of you. You know, sort of zen...
    One must meditate to quiet the mind so you can beat the heck out of someone with the least effort and amount of time....if they attack you first of course.
  5. by   SarasotaRN2b
    I've spent some time on SDN and found it quite informative. If there is any controversial remarks it is usually MD vs. DO. Also, keep in mind that the majority are college students 18-22 (pre-med) that seem to be the more arrogant ones. The older nontraditional students are usually more helpful to others and the medical students and residents are just trying to keep their heads above water with their courseloads.

    I would guess that the mean age of the posters on allnurses is older than the mean age of the posters on SDN. That alone speaks alot of the immature remarks made on SDN.

    Kris
  6. by   everthesame
    I've lurked on SDN before. I haven't been there for a few months but I did find some interesting and entertaining posts in the emergency medicine forum. That is where I learned never to trust "some dude" and I also learned that "standing on the corner minding my own business" can be hazardous to my health.
  7. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from pagandeva2000
    Why not? Just asking, because I plan to tell him about it tomorrow.
    There is a certain level of sexism, elitism, and arrogance that exists there that is annoying.

    Currently there is "I owned a nurse" thread - while allnurses.com has it's antiMD threads, none really comes close to a "I owned an MD" sort of bad attitude. There is a certain immaturity to anyone that uses a phrase like "own" - coming from one so-called professional to another.

    In another thread, a poster describes some nurse behavior, and a respondent talking about how to get even- Don't (blank) them. I don't think that nurses quite stoop that low, sexist and tacky on this BB.

    Many of the things that are complained about are things that we are required to call on by protocol/regs. Though there are many that would be justifiably annoying. I really think that nurses should have an "internship" to prevent them from making some of the calls that they do.

    Please note that most are "student docs" and not mature docs...and it explains a lot. One also suspects that mommy and daddy have kissed and spoiled progeny that is going to be an "MD" silly, so they expect people to worship them....in some cases. There tends to be this disillusionment that sets in a few monthes after internship sets in, that people (nurses, OT, PT, CRNA, pharmacy) are not falling all over them. And nurses, unfortunately, deal on the front line of it - we are the ones that call the "pharmacy won't fill this - the schedule is not right", "you have to write an acceptable reason for ordering lovenox instead of heparin", "CT wants to know the reason for the test/STAT", "PT doesn't have time to see the pt for the next two days", "We can't give that drug on this floor", etc. So we get mired in useless urinating contests between professionals, that often really should not involve us at all.

    But I do have to compliment a few things. I have yet to see a large number of posts of MD students griping about the required higher grade point averages, required math classes, having to forgo using calculators in basic math classes, and bemoaning the huge amount of data that they have to learn in a short time. I don't see them telling schools that they need to dumb down/slow the curriculum, "because there is a shortage".

    They accept that they will have to work weekends, and holidays occasionally, and that they will have to work odd hours starting out - there is not the "My family just will die if I am not off Christmas and I deserve it more because I have children". When they first graduate, they work much harder for that first and in that first job, making pitiful wages, often lower than many of the nurses for twice as many hours. This unlike the many new grads on this BB that think that prime jobs will be falling in their lap, and that they "deserve" to be paid so much more than what they offered, "because there is a shortage"and school was just so hard. They expect to pay dues, whether they are coming from another career field or not. And I have to respect that in them.
  8. by   HealthyRN
    Your post is right on! I have lurked on studentdoctor.net for many years and I find many of the posts regarding nurses and NPs infuriating. However, I also realize that most of the posters are premed and med students who have a lot to learn about life and how it is in the real world. You are absolutely right about their attitude regarding required courses and the difficulty of the courses. They expect it to be hard and they accept it, unlike many of the students on this board.

    Quote from caroladybelle
    There is a certain level of sexism, elitism, and arrogance that exists there that is annoying.

    Currently there is "I owned a nurse" thread - while allnurses.com has it's antiMD threads, none really comes close to a "I owned an MD" sort of bad attitude. There is a certain immaturity to anyone that uses a phrase like "own" - coming from one so-called professional to another.

    In another thread, a poster describes some nurse behavior, and a respondent talking about how to get even- Don't (blank) them. I don't think that nurses quite stoop that low, sexist and tacky on this BB.

    Many of the things that are complained about are things that we are required to call on by protocol/regs. Though there are many that would be justifiably annoying. I really think that nurses should have an "internship" to prevent them from making some of the calls that they do.

    Please note that most are "student docs" and not mature docs...and it explains a lot. One also suspects that mommy and daddy have kissed and spoiled progeny that is going to be an "MD" silly, so they expect people to worship them....in some cases. There tends to be this disillusionment that sets in a few monthes after internship sets in, that people (nurses, OT, PT, CRNA, pharmacy) are not falling all over them. And nurses, unfortunately, deal on the front line of it - we are the ones that call the "pharmacy won't fill this - the schedule is not right", "you have to write an acceptable reason for ordering lovenox instead of heparin", "CT wants to know the reason for the test/STAT", "PT doesn't have time to see the pt for the next two days", "We can't give that drug on this floor", etc. So we get mired in useless urinating contests between professionals, that often really should not involve us at all.

    But I do have to compliment a few things. I have yet to see a large number of posts of MD students griping about the required higher grade point averages, required math classes, having to forgo using calculators in basic math classes, and bemoaning the huge amount of data that they have to learn in a short time. I don't see them telling schools that they need to dumb down/slow the curriculum, "because there is a shortage".

    They accept that they will have to work weekends, and holidays occasionally, and that they will have to work odd hours starting out - there is not the "My family just will die if I am not off Christmas and I deserve it more because I have children". When they first graduate, they work much harder for that first and in that first job, making pitiful wages, often lower than many of the nurses for twice as many hours. This unlike the many new grads on this BB that think that prime jobs will be falling in their lap, and that they "deserve" to be paid so much more than what they offered, "because there is a shortage"and school was just so hard. They expect to pay dues, whether they are coming from another career field or not. And I have to respect that in them.
  9. by   SFDRN
    Thank you for pointing out that many RN students complain and gripe about the curriculum, which is SUPPOSED to be difficult, given the immense responsibility that practicing RNs have.

    It bothers me SO much in class when I hear a fellow student ask the professor, "do we have to know this for the exam?" It's so annoying.

    And then there are the professors who act really tough and then end up capitulating to whiny students after a difficult but fair exam. Argg.
  10. by   FireStarterRN
    OK, I just am signing up at this site.
  11. by   FireStarterRN
    I declined to state my 'status'.
  12. by   NRSKarenRN
    Starting a website is easy. Developing a successful one can be done via content: useful or outrageous, the new "WOW" factor, etc.

    Starting, developing and maintaining a professional website is harder:
    content needs to be kept fresh, appeal to those considering the career, novice to expert practitioner, adhere to professional standards, allowing individual expression while maintaining bb community standards.

    All founders/bb owners set the tone for how their bb community will develop. In our early year after some free for all discussions resulted in members complaining about flaming attacks, our Terms Of Service developed. Cooperating with various websites, we've chosen to avoid sniping comments from one site to another. Instead, we focus on promoting nursing and serving as patient advocates, correcting inaccuracies about this profession and give encouragement to all considering this dynamic profession.
  13. by   elizabells
    :yeahthat:

    As I recall, last year someone started a thread along the lines of "What's the dumbest thing a resident ever did" and it was shut down pretty right quick.

    I always explain to the residents who are nice: If a nurse who you always thought was smart suddenly starts acting dim and calling you about every little thing: you have done something to p*** that nurse off.

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