Is my short career over?

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      No, get back in the saddle and ride!
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      No, but you need more education!
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      No, volunteer for Free Health Clinic!
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ladies and gentlemen, i am having great difficulty deciding if my nascent career is, or should be, over. please be kind enough to tell me what you think. i am an rn with an as who recently graduated nursing school with distinction and a gpa of 3.9. i passed my nclex on the first try, in 1.5 hours, with 75 questions. i am acls certified. but, in school, they told me "nurses eat their young", and i have come to believe it's true. i'm not young; i was 58 years old at graduation, but young in the profession.

within a month of passing my boards, i found employment with a dialysis clinic, as a dialysis nurse and team leader. after a training period, they promised i would soon be charge for my shift, assess patients, pass meds, and supervise four techs.

unfortunately, they had my subordinates train me. i was thrown into the lion's den. my subordinates were techs with only 6 weeks of informal training from the company, but had many years of valuable experience. they seemed anxious to let me know that while i would be their team leader, they had no respect for me because of my lack of experience, and that they really ran the show. it was more like hazing than training. i would see them give a patient 250 ml of ns, go for a lunch break, and fail to chart it. when i suggested they needed to chart it before they left, they'd say, "you aren't the nurse yet, and you probably won't last long enough to ever be the nurse." i refrained from reminding them that while i might not have been "the" nurse, i was indeed a nurse, and tried to get along with them, thinking i could address this when i became charge.

they kept me busy with scut work, emptying the infectious waste trash and cleaning up blood off the floor, while they treated the patients. after a month of this, i complained to the clinic manager that i wasn't going to become proficient in treating dialysis patients by emptying everybody's trash cans. i needed to actually perform dialysis on patients. then the clinic manager put a stop to the cinderella treatment, and insisted they give me some hands on experience.

each day i had a different tech preceptor. everyone had their own way of doing things. each day my preceptor would complain that the way yesterday's preceptor told me to do things was wrong, and insist i must do it their way instead. i learned the principals of dialysis, the appropriate responses to dialysis related emergencies, how to access a "button hole", how to access a fistula, and became proficient at catheter care.

it was a crazy way to set it up, but they also had these tech preceptors evaluating my performance. even though i tried to be pleasant, they really didn't like me and i think they just resented having a newbie come in as their supervisor. their evaluations were less than flattering, insofar as they complained i was "slow in the performance of tasks". as my 3 month anniversary came near, the clinic manager told me that i was "too slow."

i explained that i had still not had much experience and that i would get faster with time. i also asked, "do you want me to be fast, or do you want me to be careful?" she said what she wanted both, immediately, and otherwise maybe i should resign. so, i resigned, but very gracefully, saying i was sorry it didn't seem to be working out, and that i had great admiration for the job she did, and the way she did it. i live in a small town, so burning bridges isn't a good idea. besides i did admire her, she was capable and had been kind to me. i did frankly tell her she should not be dismayed if my coworkers spoke badly of me, because they also spoke badly of her. the rest of the staff smiled in her face while making cruel remarks about her behind her back. she said she knew this. i also mentioned that it was probably an ill-conceived company policy to be trained by subordinates. she agreed, wished me well, and we parted on good terms.

within a week i was working again, this time at a community clinic with a low level of acuity. i was treating a broad spectrum of patients, pediatrics, geriatrics, diabetes clinic, surgical clinic, as well as women's health and pre-natal patients. in my first month there i learned how to perform many poc lab tests such as rapid strep, flu tests, rsv tests, urinalysis, pregnancy tests, a1c and accu checks. i learned how to assist in minor surgeries and pelvic exams and do prenatal non stress tests, ecgs and learned the pediatric immunization schedule.

everything seemed to be going along fine until, in my second month, i made my first ever med error. i had a baby who had turned 6 months old the day before he came to the clinic. his mother brought him in because she wanted him to have an influenza immunization. our "standing order" protocol dictated that if he were less than 6 months old he should get a divided dose, 2.5 ml now, and another 2.5 ml in a month. if he were more than 6 months old, he should, instead, have gotten one single 5 ml dose. as it happened i was distracted by people bustling around me, my preceptor talking to me, reaching around me to get into the med press, the unit clerk coming and taking over my computer while i was trying to look at the computer's calculation of his age, etc. i was also dehydrated, tired and rushed. i miscalculated the baby's age, thinking him one day younger than 6 months instead of one day older than 6 months. i gave him the 2.5 ml dose that would have been appropriate if he had come in two days earlier. the child was under dosed. i had only been there two months, and i still had a preceptor watching me, but she didn't notice anything out of the way, either, until it was too late.

well, anyone who has ever made a med error knows the whirlwind of reports that follow. i made out all the reports. i called the baby's mother at home and explained to her that i had made a mistake, but that it should not harm the child, except insofar as he would need to come back for the second dose. she was very kind. my preceptor dressed me down and wasn't satisfied until she reduced me to tears.

the don was livid and demanded to know why this happened. i explained that i had not been given a break, was fatigued, dehydrated, and the clinic was busy with people bustling about, and that a computer was not available to me to look up the child's exact age. she asked what could be done to prevent recurrences of this in the future. i suggested that the nurses should be given a 10 minute break in the morning and another in the afternoon so that we could refresh our minds, use the bathroom, and have something to drink, since drinks were not allowed on the floor. i also suggested that nurses drawing meds should be given a "quiet zone" around their computer for the few minutes they were drawing them. she said, "well, you're not going to get that! so forget it!" "and", the don added, "you are still on probation, you don't get to make mistakes! i'd better not hear of anything else going wrong, or you're out!"

the don also dressed down my preceptor, saying that she should have caught this error before it occurred. my preceptor thereafter became very hypercritical and no longer seemed willing to train me, actually ridiculing me whenever i asked for information. i apologized to all profusely and hoped i would be forgiven, but i felt i was never forgiven. very shortly after, i was so miserable, i resigned again.

i then decided that i needed a hysterectomy, before i got another job, because i had a prolapse and had been waiting for a hysterectomy since before nursing school, never having enough time off to do it. so i took that opportunity. my recovery was complicated by cellulitis of the cuff, and my doctor didn't clear me to go back to work for 4 months. but i didn't look for another job just yet, because my daughter's wedding, scheduled to take place on the other side of the continent, would be happening soon. i thought a new employer would never give me time off to go to her wedding, so i waited 3 more months. very soon after that, my brother in law, (of 43 years), was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer with mets, and i flew across the country to help my sister care for him until died, which occurred just last week.

now i find that i have been out of nursing school for 21 months, and have only worked a total of 6 months, at two different jobs! i spent 3 months waiting for nclex, 3 months working dialysis, 3 months working the clinic, and 11 months being unemployed, reticent, and trying to fathom my future. i'm very discouraged and actually afraid to go back to nursing. i also don't know how i can be smooth in an interview when i have failed so miserably at both jobs. i was slow at one and incompetent at the other.

einstein said, "anybody who has never made a mistake has never tried to do anything new." that's true, but maybe i'm not fit for nursing, even though i enjoyed scholastic achievement. nursing school teaches you how to be a good student, but only experience teaches you how to be a good nurse.

just last week a headhunter called and asked me if i would consider going back to the same dialysis clinic, this time as the clinic manager, since my former clinic manager had resigned. i thought about it for only 30 seconds and said, "no." i remember how the nurses and techs who worked for that clinic manager spoke evil of her behind her back. when she was not in earshot they called her a fat, ugly, old *****. i ventured to ask them how that was relevant to her job. they said, "well, she doesn't do her job very well either." actually i thought she did pretty well, i did admire her. i can imagine how those techs and nurses would treat me, who they viewed as slow, inexperienced and incompetent. they would tear me apart. and they'd be impossible to manage. it would be mutiny.

if i did go back to nursing, i wouldn't know how to smooth all this into a productive interview. and i don't know what to say in interview about the long hiatus. maybe my patients are better off having a different nurse. i have no self-confidence about it. is there anything else i can do with my degree and license? would an insurance company take me as a case manager? or do they want a lot of experience?

on the other hand, i have enough money and there is a free clinic that operates solely with volunteer staff in my town. maybe they would more patiently precept me, since my labor would be free, and maybe i could get a year's experience there, and become a more astute nurse.

any suggestions on how i might salvage my career? i do have very nice letters of reference from my clinical instructers in nursing school, as well as some of the mds and rns that i worked with at the community clinic. i'm sorry this was so long. thank you very much for your time reading this, and for your consideration of this problem.

OK, I think I've read enough responses to reply. First, don't volunteer to gain experience. If you need money, EARN it! Don't work for free, especially if you are trying to learn a new skill. Second, emphasis on LEARN NEW SKILL. Go get your BNS if you want. It will make you a well-rounded person, but it will not decrease your med errors or make you a better nurse, especially if you never lay hands on patients! Practice, practice, practice. You gain skill and knowledge by exposure, hands-on and yes, mistakes. I hate to say it, but the most valuable lessons we learn, are the ones from mistakes made.

Now, your med error. This may be unpopular on here, but, my call is it barely qualifies as one. A baby is six months by one day? OK. Your clinic WAY over-reacted here! The biggest issue is that this child now needs to be poked a second time, and Mom could have brought him back. Worse case? Under dose. I work adult and pedi er AND in-patient acute hemodialysis, and I'm here to tell you, if you are going to make any kind of dosing error on a kid, underdosing is the kind to make. Your DON was just being a cow. That said, your going through a litany of excuses (I was dehydrated, etc) probably didn't help. That though, has been beaten to death on here. As to your paralyisis because of it? GET OVER IT! Did you learn from it? Have you figured out how it happened? Will that likely ever happen again? Alright then. You will make med errors again. I guarentee it. If you are so terrified of making a mistake, then you shouldn't be a nurse. You are a human. Humans make mistakes. All we can do is do what we learned in school (5 rights, or 10 now or something) and when in doubt, check again. You work with humans, so there is a 100% chance that sometime, somewhere, somehow, a mistake will be made again in the future. If you are so panicked and terrified of EVER making a mistake, you will make a fatal one.

What other posters have said of dialysis is true - you learn the majority of your job from the techs. Having had a positive, and a very negative, dialysis orientation experience, I will tell people, it is not uncommon for techs to take full advantage of people. I have no doubt that you wasted weeks of time taking out the trash. I wasted weeks of learning time cleaning chairs. Trust me, the last thing I need to learn is how to clean a recliner! There are some units that are just plain disfunctional and toxic, and it sounds like yours was. A very smart decision on your part to turn down the clinic director position. You would have been in job hell had you taken it.

I've been a paramedic for 15 years, in the ER for 9, a nurse for 6, and in dialysis for a year. I understand transition. I'm not sure a refresher course would be helpful. You clearly have no lack of understanding of information! You just need hands-on and to find your "fit". I agree with other posters that, if you are in a small town, perhaps you need to look outside your area. More than that, though, what area of medicine excites you? What patient populations do you like to work with? I don't know what is available to you, so I don't know what suggestions to make, but those would be questions I would ask myself.

It would be a shame to have worked so hard only to not be able to enjoy any of it. Good luck to you. I hope you find your passion!

Specializes in telemetry, med-surg, home health, psych.

Oh, my.don't know where to begin !!!!

You jumped right in to a nightmare !!! what an awful first job experience.......to be trained by your techs is an insult and I would not have allowed that, I would have insisted on another RN to train me...........

Don't worry about your med error........you DID NO HARM....I repeat, you DID NO HARM....that is the bottom line....we have all had med errors........and those that don't admit it, are not telling the truth !!!

You sound like a very caring and conscientious nurse.........just need to start out in a better environment....make sure wherever you go, they have a long preceptorship......as in a hospital........you need a year of hospital experience and then you can pick and choose to find your niche.

Good Luck, don't give up...........you went thru too much hell to get that license !!!!! you WILL find your place !!!

Specializes in TELE, CVU, ICU.

**** happens. Deal with it.

good luck, and hope to see you on the other side.

PS: I hope one day you will be my boss. you would be AWESOME

Sorry but I hate when people refer to private duty as home health. Two different things. Home health is not for someone without a strong background of experience. You are really on your own in home health and need a solid work experience.

Private duty is boring but you can learn a lot and you have more time to learn and practice. LTC can be hectic and crazy, understaffed and pressured. It depends on the facility.

I think you are losing your self confidence. Easy to do with the things you have been through. People love to torment and test new nurses and new staff members. They don't trust you and they are afraid to trust you or depend on you. That comes with time.

What do you want? That is the question. Do you want to eventually work in a hospital? Then jump back in. If not, then maybe the volunteer position would help you regain self confidence. I can tell you from experience though that I have been in nursing for going on 27 years and I have always had times where I forgot to do things, or went home worrying that I did something wrong or reliving the whole shift over again, etc. Nursing is stressful and you will make mistakes. We all do. You are human and you do your best. But those terrifying moments will happen again. We are responsible for lives every day. It is a terrible burden. Some areas are more demanding then others but all areas of nursing are high stress and high responsibility. You have to decide if it is right for you.

Good luck in whatever you decide.

ladies and gentlemen, i am having great difficulty deciding if my nascent career is, or should be, over. please be kind enough to tell me what you think. i am an rn with an as who recently graduated nursing school with distinction and a gpa of 3.9. i passed my nclex on the first try, in 1.5 hours, with 75 questions. i am acls certified. but, in school, they told me "nurses eat their young", and i have come to believe it's true. i'm not young; i was 58 years old at graduation, but young in the profession.

within a month of passing my boards, i found employment with a dialysis clinic, as a dialysis nurse and team leader. after a training period, they promised i would soon be charge for my shift, assess patients, pass meds, and supervise four techs.

unfortunately, they had my subordinates train me. i was thrown into the lion's den. my subordinates were techs with only 6 weeks of informal training from the company, but had many years of valuable experience. they seemed anxious to let me know that while i would be their team leader, they had no respect for me because of my lack of experience, and that they really ran the show. it was more like hazing than training. i would see them give a patient 250 ml of ns, go for a lunch break, and fail to chart it. when i suggested they needed to chart it before they left, they'd say, "you aren't the nurse yet, and you probably won't last long enough to ever be the nurse." i refrained from reminding them that while i might not have been "the" nurse, i was indeed a nurse, and tried to get along with them, thinking i could address this when i became charge.

they kept me busy with scut work, emptying the infectious waste trash and cleaning up blood off the floor, while they treated the patients. after a month of this, i complained to the clinic manager that i wasn't going to become proficient in treating dialysis patients by emptying everybody's trash cans. i needed to actually perform dialysis on patients. then the clinic manager put a stop to the cinderella treatment, and insisted they give me some hands on experience.

each day i had a different tech preceptor. everyone had their own way of doing things. each day my preceptor would complain that the way yesterday's preceptor told me to do things was wrong, and insist i must do it their way instead. i learned the principals of dialysis, the appropriate responses to dialysis related emergencies, how to access a "button hole", how to access a fistula, and became proficient at catheter care.

it was a crazy way to set it up, but they also had these tech preceptors evaluating my performance. even though i tried to be pleasant, they really didn't like me and i think they just resented having a newbie come in as their supervisor. their evaluations were less than flattering, insofar as they complained i was "slow in the performance of tasks". as my 3 month anniversary came near, the clinic manager told me that i was "too slow."

i explained that i had still not had much experience and that i would get faster with time. i also asked, "do you want me to be fast, or do you want me to be careful?" she said what she wanted both, immediately, and otherwise maybe i should resign. so, i resigned, but very gracefully, saying i was sorry it didn't seem to be working out, and that i had great admiration for the job she did, and the way she did it. i live in a small town, so burning bridges isn't a good idea. besides i did admire her, she was capable and had been kind to me. i did frankly tell her she should not be dismayed if my coworkers spoke badly of me, because they also spoke badly of her. the rest of the staff smiled in her face while making cruel remarks about her behind her back. she said she knew this. i also mentioned that it was probably an ill-conceived company policy to be trained by subordinates. she agreed, wished me well, and we parted on good terms.

within a week i was working again, this time at a community clinic with a low level of acuity. i was treating a broad spectrum of patients, pediatrics, geriatrics, diabetes clinic, surgical clinic, as well as women's health and pre-natal patients. in my first month there i learned how to perform many poc lab tests such as rapid strep, flu tests, rsv tests, urinalysis, pregnancy tests, a1c and accu checks. i learned how to assist in minor surgeries and pelvic exams and do prenatal non stress tests, ecgs and learned the pediatric immunization schedule.

everything seemed to be going along fine until, in my second month, i made my first ever med error. i had a baby who had turned 6 months old the day before he came to the clinic. his mother brought him in because she wanted him to have an influenza immunization. our "standing order" protocol dictated that if he were less than 6 months old he should get a divided dose, 2.5 ml now, and another 2.5 ml in a month. if he were more than 6 months old, he should, instead, have gotten one single 5 ml dose. as it happened i was distracted by people bustling around me, my preceptor talking to me, reaching around me to get into the med press, the unit clerk coming and taking over my computer while i was trying to look at the computer's calculation of his age, etc. i was also dehydrated, tired and rushed. i miscalculated the baby's age, thinking him one day younger than 6 months instead of one day older than 6 months. i gave him the 2.5 ml dose that would have been appropriate if he had come in two days earlier. the child was under dosed. i had only been there two months, and i still had a preceptor watching me, but she didn't notice anything out of the way, either, until it was too late.

well, anyone who has ever made a med error knows the whirlwind of reports that follow. i made out all the reports. i called the baby's mother at home and explained to her that i had made a mistake, but that it should not harm the child, except insofar as he would need to come back for the second dose. she was very kind. my preceptor dressed me down and wasn't satisfied until she reduced me to tears.

the don was livid and demanded to know why this happened. i explained that i had not been given a break, was fatigued, dehydrated, and the clinic was busy with people bustling about, and that a computer was not available to me to look up the child's exact age. she asked what could be done to prevent recurrences of this in the future. i suggested that the nurses should be given a 10 minute break in the morning and another in the afternoon so that we could refresh our minds, use the bathroom, and have something to drink, since drinks were not allowed on the floor. i also suggested that nurses drawing meds should be given a "quiet zone" around their computer for the few minutes they were drawing them. she said, "well, you're not going to get that! so forget it!" "and", the don added, "you are still on probation, you don't get to make mistakes! i'd better not hear of anything else going wrong, or you're out!"

the don also dressed down my preceptor, saying that she should have caught this error before it occurred. my preceptor thereafter became very hypercritical and no longer seemed willing to train me, actually ridiculing me whenever i asked for information. i apologized to all profusely and hoped i would be forgiven, but i felt i was never forgiven. very shortly after, i was so miserable, i resigned again.

i then decided that i needed a hysterectomy, before i got another job, because i had a prolapse and had been waiting for a hysterectomy since before nursing school, never having enough time off to do it. so i took that opportunity. my recovery was complicated by cellulitis of the cuff, and my doctor didn't clear me to go back to work for 4 months. but i didn't look for another job just yet, because my daughter's wedding, scheduled to take place on the other side of the continent, would be happening soon. i thought a new employer would never give me time off to go to her wedding, so i waited 3 more months. very soon after that, my brother in law, (of 43 years), was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer with mets, and i flew across the country to help my sister care for him until died, which occurred just last week.

now i find that i have been out of nursing school for 21 months, and have only worked a total of 6 months, at two different jobs! i spent 3 months waiting for nclex, 3 months working dialysis, 3 months working the clinic, and 11 months being unemployed, reticent, and trying to fathom my future. i'm very discouraged and actually afraid to go back to nursing. i also don't know how i can be smooth in an interview when i have failed so miserably at both jobs. i was slow at one and incompetent at the other.

einstein said, "anybody who has never made a mistake has never tried to do anything new." that's true, but maybe i'm not fit for nursing, even though i enjoyed scholastic achievement. nursing school teaches you how to be a good student, but only experience teaches you how to be a good nurse.

just last week a headhunter called and asked me if i would consider going back to the same dialysis clinic, this time as the clinic manager, since my former clinic manager had resigned. i thought about it for only 30 seconds and said, "no." i remember how the nurses and techs who worked for that clinic manager spoke evil of her behind her back. when she was not in earshot they called her a fat, ugly, old *****. i ventured to ask them how that was relevant to her job. they said, "well, she doesn't do her job very well either." actually i thought she did pretty well, i did admire her. i can imagine how those techs and nurses would treat me, who they viewed as slow, inexperienced and incompetent. they would tear me apart. and they'd be impossible to manage. it would be mutiny.

if i did go back to nursing, i wouldn't know how to smooth all this into a productive interview. and i don't know what to say in interview about the long hiatus. maybe my patients are better off having a different nurse. i have no self-confidence about it. is there anything else i can do with my degree and license? would an insurance company take me as a case manager? or do they want a lot of experience?

on the other hand, i have enough money and there is a free clinic that operates solely with volunteer staff in my town. maybe they would more patiently precept me, since my labor would be free, and maybe i could get a year's experience there, and become a more astute nurse.

any suggestions on how i might salvage my career? i do have very nice letters of reference from my clinical instructers in nursing school, as well as some of the mds and rns that i worked with at the community clinic. i'm sorry this was so long. thank you very much for your time reading this, and for your consideration of this problem.

golden_dawn

you need to decide what is more important to you....making friends on the job or the job itself.. if you are in nursing for the patients, then don't worry about people talking behind your back. your remember the basics you were taught in school and ask questions of supervisors. if they do not know the answer, go higher for the correct answers. sometimes you have to go backwards in order to go forwards. you may want to consider taking the dialysis job. you were there prior to being a manager , so you are already informed as to the dysfunction of the job. it is something you may be able to help change in the future. i am presently going back into nursing after being out for 7 years. i have my challenges ahead of me including finding work right now in the field. i do remember the basics of nursing though and know that i will do the best job possible because my patients will come first. so think about what you want the most and why you went to nursing school and go from there. as for the explanation of the time off, well though you were not in a building you were still doing a form of nursing, nursing yourself and also your family, there is nothing to explain it will come to you as to what to say in an interview, just be honest.

Specializes in ICU, PACU, OR.

Reading your history on your career and life situations it seems to me that you may need a career evaluation. Nursing is not for people with thin skin. There are very sweet and kind nurses out there-not all are hard nosed people-that's not what I'm saying here. What I am saying is that you have to first pay your dues as a new nurse. That means that you must find your way connecting school and theory to the shocking reality check of the nursing work day. Sometimes it is best to start in a hospital environment to learn prioritization, regulations, policy and procedure, and handling nursing care plans. When you work in that type of environment, with USUALLY plenty of preceptors and mentors and good orientation plans for new employees, then you can hone your skills to then venture out into outpatient/clinic settings where the pace is faster. You don't learn enough in school to able to cope with the real world without lots of support. Your job choices may have been limiting, but since you stated that you had to quit shortly into your career, it's more your inability to cope. You haven't learned enough to get a thicker skin, stick up for yourself, have the confidence of experience to back up your opinions when at odds with your co-workers. Nursing is not a job that you can just plug into and hope to find a Utopian environment. It just doesn't exist-anywhere. Remember there's a book way of doing things, then there is the real world way of doing things. You must gain experience to learn how to balance the two and maintain safety for yourself and your patient. Everyone talks bad about their superiors behind their backs, that goes with the territory. If you ever plan to be in charge, you best brace yourself for that. Your role as manager or charge nurse is to find the best way to communicate your goals with your subordinates-and that can be daunting, as everyone responds differently to the message. Free clinic experience is not going to help you that much, and you can have errors even there. So how would that help you any? Evaluate yourself, go to a career mentor and see what career would be best for you. If you are superior in scholastics, maybe writing test questions, evaluate nursing text-or doing something in academia would be better. Further your education, if nothing else it will open more doors for you.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Oh, my.don't know where to begin !!!!You jumped right in to a nightmare !!! what an awful first job experience.......to be trained by your techs is an insult and I would not have allowed that, I would have insisted on another RN to train me...........Don't worry about your med error........you DID NO HARM....I repeat, you DID NO HARM....that is the bottom line....we have all had med errors........and those that don't admit it, are not telling the truth !!!You sound like a very caring and conscientious nurse.........just need to start out in a better environment....make sure wherever you go, they have a long preceptorship......as in a hospital........you need a year of hospital experience and then you can pick and choose to find your niche.Good Luck, don't give up...........you went thru too much hell to get that license !!!!! you WILL find your place !!!
Everyone seems to have such a different take on the same post! I don't think it's an "insult" to be trained by techs when the OP took a job in a dialysis clinic. Such places usually don't have a plethora of RNs handy, and being trained in tech duties by the techs seems like a good use of resources. Being insulted by learning such skills from a tech reeks of being "above all that", and that's not what nursing is about. It's all our job -- we need to learn how to do all of it.

And about the med error -- while it's certainly wonderful that no patient was harmed by the OP's error, I certainly wouldn't just dismiss the whole thing because "no one got hurt." A medication error is a potentially serious mistake, and I wasn't comfortable with the lengths the OP went to to explain it away. There are always going to be noisy workstations, time pressures and someone who wants to talk to us about something else while we're trying to prepare meds; none of those things make good excuses. I'd rather see a nurse who made an error -- and we all do make errors -- immediately own up to the error and set about mitigating the potential harm to the patient rather than spending a lot of energy making excuses for why it happened.

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

Geez, I usually agree with ruby, but....

If the techs were having her spend the majority of her time doing chores and all doing everything differently and giving her a hard time about it then that is not the training she needed and I would have been PO'd too. Unfortunately the manager was not managing them well.

Med error - I never got the feeling she was casual about it. And it was minor. And it was difficult circumstances. I long ago worked peds clinic and you have 18 people around all asking you questions as you are trying to draw up meds. It is insane and super easy to make mistakes. I do feel that kind of pace is probably not the best for the O/P.

One thing I thought about the Dialysis Clinic job while reading your post was that it was a terrible job for a NG. I am in a similar situation as you in that I graduated about 19 months ago and I am an older second career nurse. I also did well in school as far as the school work but struggled a lot in the clinical setting. I had absolutely no confidence my first job; I'm fairly sure I would not have had the courage to take that dialysis job. My first nursing job and where I still am is in corrections at the County jail. (Corrections, one of the fastest growing industries in the U.S. - sad); I love it, I think it is a great job for a nurse with a lot of life experience. It is not as physically challenging as many nursing jobs. You really learn a lot about assessment, patient communication, mental health medications and management of chronic diseases.

Specializes in telemetry, med-surg, home health, psych.

It certainly was an insult to the OP the way she was treated by those techs !!!!!!!! It was horrible........

I would want another RN to train me if I was brand new in a Dialysis Clinic...techs may know the basic skills, but they certainly do not know how to handle emergencys and what to be looking for..........and what to do about them !!!!!! but that's me....

I certainly would never minimize a med error.........we are all trained to do our utmost NOT to make med errors... BUT they do happen.........more than just once in a while..........but this OP was letting this minor,,,yes minor.....med error devastate her...I was trying to lift her spirits with honesty and compassion..........the main thing she needed to hear, was she DID NO HARM....

I want her to get back in the saddle !!!!!!!!!!!! sorry if anyone felt I was minimizing the situation.....i

Specializes in ICU, PACU, OR.

I work in the OR where everything is fast-paced and distractions are rampant. People interrupt you, invade your tiny little work space (if you are circulating) and you are doing many things at a very rapid succession. I did not start in the OR though, I trained in the ICU first to get my assessment skills down to a fine art-repetitive assessment is the name of the game in ICU, and you can concentrate on 1 or 2 maybe 3 patients in a shift. That prepared me for any place I decided to work. I always chose departments where I did not have a huge patient load-so I could concentrate on doing the best I could for my patients. After ICU, then PACU, then I went to the OR. That is where I stayed. I came to that conclusion based on knowing what I was best at, and what my skills were, and where I wanted to grow. After working in the OR for many years I became a Surgical Services Nurse Educator. That is where I learned so much more. Teaching allows you to learn how to transcend book knowledge to real life situations and how to prepare inexperienced nurses to their new environment. I wanted other nurses to have a better start than I did, and to prepare them for success and warn them of the pitfalls. I have seen people come and go because sometimes what they think they will like is not necessarily a best fit for them. You have to soul search, then try places that will enhance your attributes. It's a journey. And if you decide that you want to have an attitude of life-long learning, then you will have more successes than unhappy situations. I have learned from surg. techs, environmental techs, other nurses, doctors, cooks, nutritionists, infectious disease personnel, lab techs, etc. I was never too big to not learn from anyone. You can learn from everyone. But and this is a big "but", nursing is responsible for so many things. You still have to take what you can use, then tailor it to the nursing practice act of your state. Sometimes you have to gently correct, and prove through text, policy and procedure specific to your institution. You have to do due diligence to your profession. If you want to be the best then that is what you have to do. If you want to just get by, then just go with the flow and let others influence you and mold you into what they want you to be. I personally want to know the right way. I do have to say that I had much experience in a diploma nurse program that gave me much more clinical time than the present day BSN education.

The hazing was encourage by the nurse supervisor. The techs talk bad about her, because the nurse manager told them too. They wanted to see how you would react. They set you up far failure. I worked at 18 different facilities, and they all play the same game. You were smart no to take the dialysis managers position, those techs would have really sabotage yout license. You would be smart to avoid all hospitals and all dialysis companies. If you volunteer at the free clinic, that might be good way to get full time at a later date. Remember, health care's philoshopy is always profit over people. Trust no one.

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