Is marijuana addictive? - page 11

A couple of us were having this discussion tonight. One nurses says no it is not addictive. I said "well I've know some potheads who couldn't stop smoking, couldn't face life without pot, etc." ... Read More

  1. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
  2. by   Q.
    Ok, so ya didn't ask, but I'll give it anyway.
    Heather, you're a freak.

    Authors
    Winterer G. Schmidt LG. Frick K. Ulrich G.

    Institution
    Psychiatrische Klinik und Poliklinik, Freien Universitat Berlin.

    Title
    ["Neuroadaptation" in long-term cannabis abuse. A clinical and electroencephalographic case study]. [German]

    Source
    Nervenarzt. 65(9):635-7, 1994 Sep.

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    NO LONGER RECEIVED. TODD WEHR HAS OLDER VOLUMES

    Abstract
    This report is about electroencephalographic changes in a twenty-eight year old patient with longterm heavy cannabis use. He was admitted to our hospital after he had developed a depressive-apathetic syndrome. Two days after the last cannabis-intake, the patient had recovered from initial psychopathology and his EEG was completely inconspicuous at this day. Some days later however the patient's behavior became increasingly impulsive and unstable, while his EEG showed a marked disturbed regulation of vigilance. In the following weeks his impulsiveness became less and his EEG returned to normal. We suggest that these alterations may reflect a discontinuation of the initial neuroadaption of the central nervous system to the drug.
    Last edit by Susy K on Jan 28, '03
  3. by   tattooednursie
    Well, to be honest with you all. Despite what everyone thinks of me *lol*, I never use the stuff, and I won't either!

    I imagine that it would be. Smoking ciggs is one thing. Tabacco and alcohol are drugs too . . . That I am willing to do . . . So, call me a druggy *sorry, got out of the wrog side of the bed this morning, no pun intended*
  4. by   sbic56
    Don't forget, I work with a Pharm & Tox research fellow....
    I see a running theme here with you Susy. You used a similar argument when we were discussing something OB related...only then you were the high risk OB authority. You can only have garnered so much wisdom in so many areas at the age of 29. You need to accumulate a little life experience to project true credibility. I could throw some credentials around as well, but that would not enhance my position one bit. I have plenty of sources pro and con on the subject at hand, so no I don't need your as well....but thanks for offering.
  5. by   NurseDennie
    I love the propaganda. I am so old that when I was in school, they had one of those assemblies where they show you movies - I think it was "Demon Weed" or something along those lines. LOL

    Love

    Dennie
  6. by   tattooednursie
    Man who stands on toilet is high on pot! It's an old proverb. *I feel better now*
  7. by   ziggyRn
    Originally posted by sbic56
    I see a running theme here with you Susy. You used a similar argument when we were discussing something OB related...only then you were the high risk OB authority. You can only have garnered so much wisdom in so many areas at the age of 29. You need to accumulate a little life experience to project true credibility. I could throw some credentials around as well, but that would not enhance my position one bit. I have plenty of sources pro and con on the subject at hand, so no I don't need your as well....but thanks for offering.
    So...just as in previous response to another poster a page or so back...YOU are the authority...
    So when DOES one accumulate enough life experience to be more credible than anyone else?
    When does one have enough info to disregard anymore?
    When does this lofty state of being arrive?...I was born in 1961, you were born in 1957 [think I saw that]...therefore it must be coming to me anyday now....
    Not that I would want it...because I like learning about other POV's. And sometimes I learn enough to realise that I should change my own POV.
    Last edit by ziggyRn on Jan 28, '03
  8. by   Q.
    sbic56,
    I think that theme was with you, if you remember. You were the one who granted your own authority status by stating you worked in OB and you had the upper hand and that my OB knowledge was "fair." Remember?
    Originally posted by sbic56
    SuzyK
    That's some pretty fair OB info you cite...I have to think I have the edge on this one having been an OB nurse for the past 12 years


    I responded to you by stating I also worked in OB, for 5 years, and now work in research with docs who are ingrained in Pharm and Tox. I did not state I was the authority on drugs, but simply was trying to mention that as a result, I have resources related to recent studies at my fingertips, simply by my virtue of where I work and what I do. What was true in 1960 is not necessarily true now.

    And, I am not 29, but 30, so at least get your facts straight. Age does not equate to wisdom, nor does smoking joints as a teenager. An open mind does. Sorry to have intimidated you so much.

    Buh-bye now.
    Last edit by Susy K on Jan 28, '03
  9. by   sbic56
    I won't say anything more than let's call a truce, Susy. I should just stop over riding the iggy feature by clicking "to view this post click here" as I know you have most likely posted something that gets me going. I'm sorry...I'm done. No more peeking. Damn train wreck syndrome got me again!
  10. by   Q.
    Wow, a research article gets you "going?" Jeez, I'm sorry.
  11. by   Q.
    Anyone see the new anti-drug commercial during the Super Bowl? Did you know that smoking marijuana leads to pregnancy? Nah, no propaganda there!
    Actually....

    Authors
    Donnelly J. Goldfarb ES. Ferraro H. Eadie C. Duncan DF.

    Institution
    Department of Health Professions, Physical Education, Recreation, and Leisure Studies, Montclair State University, College Hall 301, Upper Montclair, NJ 07043, USA. donnellyj@mail.montclair.edu

    Title
    Assessing sexuality attitudes and behaviors and correlates of alcohol and drugs.

    Source
    Psychological Reports. 88(3 Pt 1):849-53, 2001 Jun.

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    Abstract
    The association between sexual abstinence and use of alcohol, cigarettes, and marijuana was examined in data from questionnaires completed by 874 students in Grades 6 through 8 at six urban schools. These students participated in a program that implemented and evaluated an educational program on abstinence sexuality. It focused on raising self-esteem, improving communication skills, and learning to set life goals. The evaluation instrument contained items assessing sexuality and attitudes toward behaviors related to drug use. Use of each drug (alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana) was significantly (p < .00001) and positively associated with self-report of having experienced sexual intercourse and expectation of having intercourse during the next year.


    Not trying to be a snot, but just showing that trends change as research is done.
    Last edit by Susy K on Jan 28, '03
  12. by   fergus51
    That still doesn't mean that pot led to sex. A correlation doesn't necessarily mean it has a causative link does it? Couldn't it be that people with free sexual attitudes also have free attitudes about drugs.
  13. by   Q.
    I dunno, that p-value is pretty impressive. Besides, we're talking about kids here. We don't need any more of them having sex. If using drugs is correlated with increased sex for kids (Grades 6-8) then we should act on it.

    SuperBowl commercial has my blessing.

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