Is it right to sexually assist a paralysed patient? - page 17

How do you deal with the paralysed patient with frequent erections? Have you ever been asked to assist? I've never faced this but have seen a heated discussion on another forum. Is it humane to bring... Read More

  1. by   jrvb
    No, we cant.

    This is a stupid topic. There are a lot of battles to fight and look at the one you've picked. I think that speaks volumes about your personality. I can guarantee you one thing-I wouldn't leave you alone in a room with my grandfather.
  2. by   tattooednursie
    Quote from jrvb
    No, we cant.

    This is a stupid topic. There are a lot of battles to fight and look at the one you've picked. I think that speaks volumes about your personality. I can guarantee you one thing-I wouldn't leave you alone in a room with my grandfather.

    Bwahahahaha, good point made!!!

    There are cities being bombed, nursing shortages, and widespread famine in some countries, and this dude wants to battle about whether to spank a patients monkey! What is this world comming to.

    And about this whole "Were against the French" Thing. Were not. There are sick people in every country, and you just hapen to be one from France
  3. by   psychomachia
    Quote from jrvb
    No, we cant.

    This is a stupid topic. There are a lot of battles to fight and look at the one you've picked. I think that speaks volumes about your personality. I can guarantee you one thing-I wouldn't leave you alone in a room with my grandfather.
    Why? Does your grandfather suffer from frequent unrelievable erections?
  4. by   DavidFR
    Quote from jrvb
    No, we cant.

    This is a stupid topic. There are a lot of battles to fight and look at the one you've picked. I think that speaks volumes about your personality. I can guarantee you one thing-I wouldn't leave you alone in a room with my grandfather.

    Would you think it was a stupid topic if YOU were asked for such assistance from a paralysed patient?
    Would you think was a stupid topic if YOU were paralysed and were longing for sexual contact?
    Would you think it was a stupid topic if you were a nurse manager and a junior nurse brought this issue to you?
    Would you think it was a stupid topic if a colleague confided in you that (s)he had done it?
    What your response says about you is that you prefer to bury your head in the sand and not think about issues which, for whatever reason, you don't feel comforable with.
    Your reference to your grandfather is ridiculous. If he were my patient he would get good nursing care like all my patients. If you are suggesting that I would have sexual ideas about a patient, simply because I have had the intellecual capacity to consider this difficult ethical issue, then that is both insulting and preposterous.
  5. by   DavidFR
    Quote from FutureRN_Mandi
    Bwahahahaha, good point made!!!

    There are cities being bombed, nursing shortages, and widespread famine in some countries, and this dude wants to battle about whether to spank a patients monkey! What is this world comming to.

    And about this whole "Were against the French" Thing. Were not. There are sick people in every country, and you just hapen to be one from France

    I debate all the topics you mention on political forums. This is a nursing forum, hence we are debating a nursing issue.
    Like the previous poster, you are obviously uncomfortable disussing sexuality so you resort to insults. What does that say about your intellectual capacity?
  6. by   nursemeow
    David, I doubt anyone here is "obviously uncomfortable discussing sexuality" we are nurses and discuss private issues daily. You are resulting to insults also by challenging OUR intellectual capacites! You asked an "ethical" question, and ya got our responses. MOST of us thank GOD responded the way we did because it is WRONG. It is apparent that you have been in some situation in which this topic that is up for debate holds personal to you. Thanks for the chance for some debate, but this topic folds quickly because it simply is wrong period. If you disagree, well that's the beauty of a free mind, however I only pray that you would not engage in that behavior. Oh, and if peers, students, patients, or whoever asked me this question.. no I wouldn't call them "stupid" to their faces... I may just think it to myself.




    Quote from DavidFR
    I debate all the topics you mention on political forums. This is a nursing forum, hence we are debating a nursing issue.
    Like the previous poster, you are obviously uncomfortable disussing sexuality so you resort to insults. What does that say about your intellectual capacity?
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    David - I was responding to Roland's question regarding why some posters had begun to feel "had" when I explained about trolls and others who like to stir folks up. It has happened here before, we are a bit sensitive to it and this IS a provocative subject, you must admit. You ask "Is it right to sexually assist a paralysed patient?" And then you ask if we have ever been asked to assist? As I said before, you ask a question like that you must be prepared for the range of answers you might just get. It seems perfectly obvious to some of us that this is laughably clear . . . no, you as a nurse do not sexually assist a paralysed patient.

    The whole range of sexual issues that a paralysed patient confronts is already dealt with by patient teaching. Couples have managed to continue a sex life and have children. As a nurse, your role in working in a facility that rehabs these patients may well be to explain issues to the patient and his family.

    However, it is not our role to procure hookers for these patients. I personally think that it is immoral, degrading and sad for anyone to prostitute themselves or frequent prostitutes.

    Of course we've been confronted by post-op cardiac patients with erections who may make comments . . heck that was a question on my NCLEX. You aren't taught to relieve them of their predicament. You do patient teaching about how to resume a sex life with their spouse or S.O. after surgery.

    You ask us to consider changing the laws so paralysed patients can use prostitutes. Well, I say no.

    I have always found it sad that sex has been demeaned in such a way in our society when it is meant to be such a soul-sharing, loving, bonding, emotionally fulfulling experience. Now we are discussing having groups of volunteers and/or paid "professionals" jerk off paralysed men. Sorry, that is just depressingly sad.

    You asked the question . . . . remember that.

    steph
  8. by   Nurse Ratched
    Locking this thread for the moment until it can be further evaluated. Thank you for your understanding.

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