Is it Ethical to Refuse to Treat a Patient due to Sexual Identity? - page 11

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  1. by   maxthecat
    I read the story of The Good Samaritan and that settles it for me. Remember that Samaritans were considered heretics by the religious fundamentalists of their day.
  2. by   Jamiednp19
    As a transgender nurse let me clarify that transvestite refers to people (male or female) who enjoy dressing in clothes associated with the opposite gender and often derive some sexual gratification from said activity. This term is very derogatory to transgender individuals where the central issue is that the assigned sex at birth does not conform to what the individual sees them self as internally. To date much of my research has been done as a transgender nurse and the disparities in healthcare that impact the transgender community. The essential basis we as healthcare providers need to be informed about is that sexual identity and gender identity are two different concepts and that both exist on a spectrum rather than being on a binary as we have traditionally viewed such matters.
  3. by   elkpark
    It's being reported this AM that the Trump administration is going to announce today that it is creating a new office with the DHHS to proect the rights of healthcare professionals to practice their faith without being penalized -- the point of this office is to expand the protections that already exist for healthcare professionals to decline to participate in procedures they object to on religious grounds, and expand that kind of protection to any kind of moral or religious objection to providing treatment, e.g., refusing to treat gay or transgendered individuals because you disapprove of them on moral or religious grounds.

    New HHS civil rights division to shield health workers with moral or religious objections - The Washington Post
  4. by   Rocknurse
    Quote from elkpark
    It's being reported this AM that the Trump administration is going to announce today that it is creating a new office with the DHHS to proect the rights of healthcare professionals to practice their faith without being penalized -- the point of this office is to expand the protections that already exist for healthcare professionals to decline to participate in procedures they object to on religious grounds, and expand that kind of protection to any kind of moral or religious objection to providing treatment, e.g., refusing to treat gay or transgendered individuals because you disapprove of them on moral or religious grounds.

    New HHS civil rights division to shield health workers with moral or religious objections - The Washington Post

    This makes me absolutely rageful. I hope that sensible minded people come out in droves to protest this backwards stance. I can see lots of lawsuits coming.
  5. by   AceOfHearts<3
    Quote from elkpark
    It's being reported this AM that the Trump administration is going to announce today that it is creating a new office with the DHHS to proect the rights of healthcare professionals to practice their faith without being penalized -- the point of this office is to expand the protections that already exist for healthcare professionals to decline to participate in procedures they object to on religious grounds, and expand that kind of protection to any kind of moral or religious objection to providing treatment, e.g., refusing to treat gay or transgendered individuals because you disapprove of them on moral or religious grounds.

    New HHS civil rights division to shield health workers with moral or religious objections - The Washington Post
    This is something I hope the BON can still do something about. Absolutely disgraceful. It's none of my business what someone does in their personal life-I treat all my patients the same. I've had police on the unit for a new admit and I made it clear I'd speak with them AFTER I got the patient stabilized and comfortable.
  6. by   elkpark
    Quote from Rocknurse
    This makes me absolutely rageful. I hope that sensible minded people come out in droves to protest this backwards stance. I can see lots of lawsuits coming.
    Quote from AceOfHearts<3
    This is something I hope the BON can still do something about. Absolutely disgraceful. It's none of my business what someone does in their personal life-I treat all my patients the same. I've had police on the unit for a new admit and I made it clear I'd speak with them AFTER I got the patient stabilized and comfortable.
    Yeah, but this kind of thing is exactly what the Trump voters were voting for, and all that matters to this administration is keeping them happy.
  7. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from Rocknurse
    This makes me absolutely rageful. I hope that sensible minded people come out in droves to protest this backwards stance. I can see lots of lawsuits coming.
    Are there sensible people in the Trump administration?
  8. by   khminh
    Quote from Ruby Vee
    Are there sensible people in the Trump administration?
    I believe that compassionate people exist in spite of Trump administration. In fact, I am grateful that Trump is still the president. Can you imagine what will happen when Mike Pence becomes a president?

    I am religious, but I will never side with Christians and Muslims about anything in our society.

    Statistics show that American people trust atheist the least. Luckily, I am a naturalized citizen. I wasn't born here. I have not been saturated with Christian thinking. Otherwise, American society would have another bigot since I am a stubborn person. When it comes to compassion and justice, I make no apology about my conviction. Most people who profess their atheism to me are among the most wonderful people I have ever met. I will vote for one as our president over a Christian. I am sure that he/she will use his/her humanistic rationality to eradicate religious discrimination in the most efficient way.

    Having said that, if this bill really supports refusal to treat lgbt people due to religious conscience, I think people should let it fly. I say this as a gay person. When I am sick, the only thing that I am able to control is my dignity, how I feel about myself. I would dehumanize myself when I allow a Christian, who sincerely believes that what makes me who I am is an abomination, to take care of me. Do I really want that?

    I grew up in a communist country. Coming to the US, I understand what human worth and dignity are. In my opinion, Christianity is a disgrace to humanity. People who follow a god who is willing to make anyone who is not convinced of his existence suffer for eternity should only take care of people of their kind. I believe that when those people are screened out, compassionate nurses will shine. We need nurses who accept patients for who they are. We don't need nurses who tolerate patients for their identity.

    I don't think we can ever legislate morality. I personally don't want that. I always admire nurses for their dedication, compassion, and empathy. I don't believe that Christian nurses are capable of these characters. If they are, they simply take care of patients to serve a religious ideology, i.e., to spread their faith. They don't do it for patients.

    Therefore, forcing them through laws to care for "sinners" is asking them to carry a burden on themselves. If they cannot leave their nursing profession, let them do their job with their own kind so that they can leave non Christians alone.

    I think we should have greater trust on American people. From my experience as an immigrant, a majority of Americans are very accepting of people who don't practice Christianity, people who are gay, people who are not Caucasians. I trust that they would make the right decision in terms of morality. Christian bigots who happen to be nurses will fade out of their profession when no patient wants their care. People's sense of justice will eliminate these bigots naturally.

    When you look at senator Mark Kirk, you can see that he changed his view about gay marriage after he recovered from stroke. Until Christians suffer like they make non believers suffer, they will not understand the type of pain they cause on other people.

    I think this bill will be a great opportunity to allow people who have moral conflict with Christian values not to take care of Christians. Let them have their own medicine for once and see how much longer they can use their faith to justify their imposition on non Christians.
    Last edit by khminh on Jan 21

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