Insight on a question I do not agree with - page 7

Recent test had this question on it. I personally do not think that any of the responses are correct. Teacher says option C. What do you think . . . .Please back your response up with references. ... Read More

  1. Visit  morte profile page
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    [quote=TexHaws;5320137]
    Quote from GrnTea
    "C. "Your body only absorbs about 1 liter of water a day."
    I would take that to mean that over 1 liter is going to be excreted by the kidneys and will not help with constipation."

    Excellent post GrnTea. . . .I think you hit every issue. The idea behind therapuetic communication and the complete lack of phisiological knowledge concerning choice C. I really appreciate your response, and more than anything I have felt vindicated in the fact that the body absorbs way more than 1L of water in a day. Thanks to all the nurses that have years of practicing experience and sound understanding of physiology that have responded.
    It blows my mind that anyone with critical thinking skill would NOT get it....
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    [QUOTE=morte;5320169]
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    It blows my mind that anyone with critical thinking skill would NOT get it....
    Lets not get angry here, but it blows my mind that anyone with an ounce of knowledge regarding the physiological process of the body wouldn't be upset by this
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  3. Visit  whichone'spink profile page
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    Questions like these are why previously A students can never get more than Bs in nursing classes, doesn't matter if they have reason and logic on their side.
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  4. Visit  TexHaws profile page
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    Thanks everyone for your opinions
    Last edit by TexHaws on Jun 30, '11
  5. Visit  dudette10 profile page
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    Quote from TexHaws
    How about this one from the same class . . . I am starting to get a little worried:


    Alcohol consumption recommendations indicate that:

    A. Men may consume 20 ounces of red wine daily.
    B. Women may have up to 6 ounces of spirits daily.
    C. 48 ounces of beer exceeds the daily limit for men.

    "right answer" is supposedly A.
    Out of these three, I would have chosen "C."

    As for A, that would be 4/5's a bottle of red wine a day. Wow. Really?!

    As for B, give me six shots a day, and I would never be sober.

    I don't like C at all, but 48 ounces does indeed exceed the daily limit for men...by a lot.

    Which statement about the use of ACE inhibitors and ARBs is correct?

    A. Both stimulate the sympathetic and renin-angiotensin-aldosterone systems
    B. ARBs quickly reduce the vasoconstrictive action of angiotension II
    C. ACE inhibitors are contraindicated in patient with diabetes

    Again "right answer" is A. To my understanding and according to LeMone & Burke Medical-Surgical Nursing these are both incorrect.

    Maybe I am not as crazy as some of you think. This was one a test for hypertension.
    I would have chosen B.

    I don't like the word "stimulate" in the A answer.
    C is definitely wrong.
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    Quote from whichone'spink
    Questions like these are why previously A students can never get more than Bs in nursing classes, doesn't matter if they have reason and logic on their side.
    Yes they can. I did.

    The previously A student who stomps her feet, whines, cries, insists her knowledge is superior and picks a wrong answer on purpose because they don't like the word "absorb" gets a B. The previously A student who learns how to beat these stupid questions gets an A.
  7. Visit  MN-Nurse profile page
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    Quote from grntea
    bottom line, though? if those and other questions are truly bogus (like wrong answers you can refute clearly from your pharm. text), the op should compile them and accurate references and write them up, nicely, absolutely deadpan with no snarkiness, and give them to the department head. let him/her take it from there. seriously.
    most instructors i've met direct the output of all that work to their circular file.

    there are better ways to spend your time than trying to prove you are smarter than your instructors.
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    Quote from TexHaws
    How about this one from the same class . . . I am starting to get a little worried:


    Alcohol consumption recommendations indicate that:

    A. Men may consume 20 ounces of red wine daily.
    B. Women may have up to 6 ounces of spirits daily.
    C. 48 ounces of beer exceeds the daily limit for men.

    "right answer" is supposedly A.

    Which statement about the use of ACE inhibitors and ARBs is correct?

    A. Both stimulate the sympathetic and renin-angiotensin-aldosterone systems
    B. ARBs quickly reduce the vasoconstrictive action of angiotension II
    C. ACE inhibitors are contraindicated in patient with diabetes

    Again "right answer" is A. To my understanding and according to LeMone & Burke Medical-Surgical Nursing these are both incorrect.

    Maybe I am not as crazy as some of you think. This was one a test for hypertension.
    I don't think you're crazy, and whoever is writing these questions is definitely an idiot.

    As far as I know, the recommended ETOH consumption for males is up to two drinks per day. 20 oz of wine is more than that, but it is far closer to the recommendations than B or C. This is definitely a moronic question but A is the best answer.

    For the ARB/ACE question, B is correct.

    A is wrong because ARB and ACE inhibitors interfere with the RAAS, they do not stimulate it.
    C is wrong because there is no such contraindication.

    Check again on B, please. If you instructor doesn't budge, you went to the wrong school and I wish you the best of luck!
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  9. Visit  morte profile page
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    Quote from MN-Nurse
    Most instructors I've met direct the output of all that work to their circular file.

    There are better ways to spend your time than trying to prove you are smarter than your instructors.
    this wouldn't go to the instructor only...but up the chain...do you really want instructors teaching inaccurate information?? And the effort isnt to prove that the OP is smarter than her/his instructor but can provide a cogent argument to correct an error. Tests are teaching tools in and of themselves, and should never have errors such this.
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  10. Visit  MN-Nurse profile page
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    Quote from morte
    this wouldn't go to the instructor only...but up the chain...do you really want instructors teaching inaccurate information?? And the effort isnt to prove that the OP is smarter than her/his instructor but can provide a cogent argument to correct an error. Tests are teaching tools in and of themselves, and should never have errors such this.
    It depends on the specific test question. Instructors can and do make corrections when something is wrong, like say if a question said the normal K+ level is 9-11 mg/dl.

    But for the OP's original question, they are probably not going to budge. Taking that particular question up the is only going to waste the student's time.

    I brought concerns over test questions to instructors on a few occasions - but only to that instructor and only in private. (I had much better instructors though) I can tell you for sure that a few of the ones I complained about before I learned how to take those tests I sure would not complain about now.

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