I must make a confession - page 4
by abbaking | 8,595 Views | 45 Comments
This is something that is so dumb and so stupid, but I must confess this because it is eating me up inside. The other night at work (1800-0700), I was so massively busy I didnt have time to get my dinner from the cafeteria. I am... Read More
- 0Feb 2, '13 by anotheroneI never ate from trays although many coworkers (day shift as meals are done by night) do. ( of pts who are discharged, then made npo or diet orders changed ) but i have drank coffee, soda and juice from the pantry. ice cream and graham crackers too. i feel like such a low life after ( i am serious, i feel awful and guilty now. how humiliating to get fired for that) we were told recently that it is for pts only and there are "spies". i don't know if the pt ice and water machine counts too. that is all i use now , but i will try to buy my own cold drinks at the vending machine. can i still take ice , if using my own cup and straws? now i am paranoid that this is all on camera and i will be fired after it is posted online !
- 0Feb 2, '13 by mariebailey, MSN, RNI once brought a surgical mask home to clean out my cat's litter box. oop: Then it occurred to me that the surgical mask came out of the department's budget, & it did not belong to me. I don't now why it didn't occur to me before I took the mask home. I felt like a jerk.
The OP confessed on this thread b/c he is aware that he took something that did not belong to him, and he feels guilty about it. If he did it every day, then shame on him. A one time occurrence...well that makes for a funny post.
- 3Feb 2, '13 by trueblue2000In all fairness, hospitals should provide nursing staff free meals, especially during the night shift. There are fewer nurses on the floor, less support personnel, and most of us have no time or anyone to cover us while we step out to get something to eat. Hey, just get the closest pizza place to deliver a few pizzas to each nurse's stations at around midnight everyday. On the theft issue, I think that both eating a pack of crackers from the pantry or ordering a tray technically meet the definition of the crime, but you can't really say that both actions are the same. Although not different in kind, there is a difference in degree. By ordering a meal, you are just not helping yourself to some food you found in the pantry, you are setting in motion the whole food services department, from the attendant who took your order to the cooks who prepared it and the person who delivered. In terms of costs to the hospital, in terms of institutional resources being used, it is a different game than raiding the pantry for graham crackers. But worst for me is the issue of lying, the deception used to get the cafeteria to send a tray, which appears to be a graver ethical violation. I summary, I think you crossed the line with ordering a tray, if you ask my opinion. Now go on and sin no more.
- 6Feb 2, '13 by Bortaz, RNQuote from imintroubleSo, if this hungry dude takes a tray, he's a thief. But you steal crackers and milk that aren't yours, and everything is groovy? Awesome.I was really surprised with the responses to this post. My first thought, was it's theft. That's still my opinion. I wouldn't have done it in a million years. I'll own up to eating grahams and drinking milk out of the floor supply, but to me there is a difference. All staff snacks on those things, and they're not designated patients only. I wouldn't make an issue out of it. Wouldn't report it, and wouldn't spend more that a minute or two considering it if I witnessed it. However, I was taught taking something that is not yours is theft.
As I'm in the minority here, please be nice.
- 2Feb 2, '13 by imintroubleouch...ouch....ouch!!
The crackers and milk is not just for pts where I work. There are also sodas, juice and tea for employees. Coffee too. (thank goodness).
As I stated EVERYBODY eats them. Freebie stuff. Provided without cost to the nurses, CNAs..... Gratis.
I didn't think I was passing judgement, said as much in my post. Nonjudgemental here. Making an observation only. I said I wouldnt give it a minutes consideration even had I seen him do it. However, I find it hard to believe, even those who don't like what I wrote, would argue a pack of crackers = a meal tray charged to a patient.
Consider that my post just added an avenue for discussion.
- 1Feb 2, '13 by JDZ344Quote from imintroubleThere is no difference between milk and a meal, really, they are just two "shades" of theft, just one is "worse" for whatever reason. (I suppose like stealing $5 or $5,000,000. Both wrong but probably 99.99% of people and the justice system would say the bigger amount is "worse".)I was really surprised with the responses to this post. My first thought, was it's theft. That's still my opinion. I wouldn't have done it in a million years. I'll own up to eating grahams and drinking milk out of the floor supply, but to me there is a difference. All staff snacks on those things, and they're not designated patients only. I wouldn't make an issue out of it. Wouldn't report it, and wouldn't spend more that a minute or two considering it if I witnessed it. However, I was taught taking something that is not yours is theft.
As I'm in the minority here, please be nice.Last edit by JDZ344 on May 14, '14
- 1Feb 3, '13 by boushie87Just because everyone takes the milk and crackers doesn't mean it is meant for you guys lol But if it is like an office that has a water cooler that is truly meant for everyone then there is no issue.. Though if that is the case I'm not sure why you would be comparing stealing a pt's tray vs. having milk that is meant for employees. And just because you say you aren't judging doesn't mean you aren't. You called this guy a thief lol