I got fired today, how will that affect my chances? - page 3
by Nurseadam 17,001 Views | 70 Comments
I got fired for a dumb thing I did breaking a hospital policy per HR, not my nursing performance or patient care related. How will that affect me getting another job?... Read More
- 3Feb 6, '13 by hiddencatRNQuote from WhisperaIt sounds like OP's former employer is CHOOSING to only verify basic information like many other employers do, but they can say anything that is true.While a HR department officially can only give dates and pay info., people know people, and people talk. I think it will be difficult for you to find a job in your area.
OP: it's encouraging that your manager will give you a good reference. I think it is still likely that you will be asked why you left/were terminated in an interview. I'd try to just leave that box blank in the application and handle that in person during the interview.
- 3Feb 6, '13 by BSNbeDONEQuote from NurseadamNo judgements here....because you WILL find another position....just a little FYI: As an LPN (Low Paid Nurse), I always held two jobs just to make ends meet. As an RN, (still low paid, only with a slight Raise), in an imperfect world that expects nurses to make NO mistakes, I STILL keep two jobs. As your career progresses and you, as the old folks say, "keep living", you will continue to make mistakes, as we all will. So as soon as you land another position, line up yet another one even if you only show your face once a week. This day in age, I think it pays NOT to become complacent in any position because management is always "restructuring" and downsizing and HUMANS are always making mistakes. I know this post doesn't address your question but i hope it does give you a little insight for the future. Plan B is a wonderful concept. I read your very first post a few days ago. I just really wish you good luck because I know without a doubt that the lesson has been learned here. Remember....Plan B!I got fired for a dumb thing I did breaking a hospital policy per HR, not my nursing performance or patient care related. How will that affect me getting another job?
- 9Feb 6, '13 by ♪♫ in my ♥Be aware that one thought that you might have to counter is that your employer decided *not* to keep you on when they certainly could have. One might consider that they took the opportunity to cut you loose when it easily presented itself.
I have been in meetings discussing whether to retain or dismiss employees for various transgressions and such usually begin and end with an assessment of whether we even want to retain them or not. While the policy violation may be what gets written in the file, it's usually been our perception of the worker's attitude and value that actually makes the decision.
- 11Feb 6, '13 by HouTx GuideI'm just now coming up to speed with nurseadam's saga. I think one of the PPs raised valid concerns that this may be reportable to the BON - particularly if he was in uniform (identifiable as health care provider, associated with that institution) when the event occurred. Depends entirely on the state's rules & regs. In Tx, it would be considered unprofessional conduct - probably just get a warning.
However (gently now with my 'Mom' voice) I have some real concerns for OP - the behavior reflects incredibly poor impulse control. Although it may not be a priority at this point, it would seem that this should warrant some serious personal reflection. I am (for sure) old enough to have more than one acquaintance/ colleague who have found themselves or partners embroiled in similar situations. Yes, really. In two instances, it was a behavioral pattern that was repeated numerous times. I'm sure that OP's sitch may be a 'one of' that will never happen again, but just saying - if this is not the case, counseling may be appropriate.
In the meantime, I would advise the OP to try to make a fresh start ASAP -- in an entirely different area if possible. Gossip is a horrible thing, and can be very damaging for many years afterward. There is no such thing as 'confidentiality' if even one person knows what happened. Best to start over where no one knows what occurred.
- 5Feb 6, '13 by FlyingScotThe truth of the matter is, even in the largest communties the nursing community is small...and they talk...a lot. Especially when the topic is as provacative as your situation. I highly doubt you will never be able to find a job as a nurse again but you've pretty much torpedoed your career in your area. Best to move on and out...far out!
- 1Feb 6, '13 by Meriwhen Senior ModeratorQuote from HouTxI agree. Even if your last job says they will only verify dates of employment, they're not bound by that: they CAN tell prospective employers exactly why you were terminated. They may say they'll keep the details confidential, but unless they put a promise of confidentiality in writing, there's no guarantees.In the meantime, I would advise the OP to try to make a fresh start ASAP -- in an entirely different area if possible. Gossip is a horrible thing, and can be very damaging for many years afterward. There is no such thing as 'confidentiality' if even one person knows what happened. Best to start over where no one knows what occurred.
But HouTX is spot-on, in that there's nothing stopping word about you from traveling along unofficially, be it the actual facts or speculation over what people think had happened. You'd be surprised who knows who and where...and you may find to your dismay that your reputation has preceded you.
In your case, you may have better luck in a new geographic area. Yes, you will still have to address why you were fired, but at least you won't have to deal with everyone and their mother possibly knowing your business and drawing conclusions before you even set foot in the door.
Best of luck with your future.
- 9Feb 6, '13 by Altra GuideQuote from lawandaluxnurseAs OP points out in his references to his other thread, his termination followed being observed in intimate contact with a coworker on hospital grounds.sorry I can relate. I had the gall to have surgery , how dare I.
No idea how that relates to your situation with your surgery.
- 8Feb 6, '13 by Tina, RNI haven't read all of the replies to this thread. But, maybe you could tell future interviewers, "I had a relationship with a coworker, and that was frowned upon at my previous employer. I will never make that mistake again." I doubt the person would ask for all the gory details, so why tell them? Keep it simple.