I don't want to be a CNA anymore.

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After this experience, I don't want to be a CNA anymore. I do not have any luck in this field, I have the worst luck.

I recently spoke with the Nursing home who terminated me to get the real reason why I was let go and things got real ugly. The RN was rude, had me on speakerphone so other RNs/LPNs could chme in aganst me. I ended up crying after the conversation.

Apparently, they said that there were too many complaints against me before I even reached 90 days. One of them was being getting a write up for one diaper being soaking wet.

And then a major one that almost cost my certification being stripped away from me involving a resident and his "shoe". His shoe was put on wrong, and his toes were curled under or something like that. He has arthritis. His son came up there to visit him and said that his father was screaming in pain because of how his shoe was put on. He was so angry that he was going to call state on the Nursing home, and try to get my certification taken away from me. I was unaware that it was this serious when I was employed. I was just told that his shoe was put on wrong and that I was not allowed to get him dressed anymore.

Still, I do not see how that could have happened. He had hard leather sneakers that easily slid on his foot.

The RN who I talked to claim that I ignored the pain and agony he was in--I told her that he was not in any pain when I put his shoes on. Then she switched it up and said he was SCREAMING after I had left my shift.

Then I asked how was I supposed to know if something was wrong--his shoes were perfectly fine when I put them on, he was not in any pain.

She claimed that what I did was not intentional and it was a case of being careless. You cannot tell if something is wrong with his foot because it looks fine when you put them on. Well, I argued why is he wearing hard leather sneakers if he has arthritis then?? Why doesn't he have cloth slippers so this doesn't happen again?

She claims that I was the only person this has ever happened with and since it has not occured again with another CNA.

I really don't know what I could have done differently. What happened was the inevitable. I still assured her that if they continue to make him wear those shoes it WILL happen again, despite her claims.

The other complaint was that I was too rough with a female resident. She complained to a CNA that a girl was not very gentle with her and that she did not want her ever again.

That was the first time I had ever dealt with the woman and I had been working there for nearly 3 months. She was having major difficulty getting up so I did the best I could to help her. Maybe I was a bit too rough with her, but I don't see how I could have gotten her up if I didn't put all my strength into lifting her.

It's really hard being a CNA. It is NOT easy lifting people with a lot of dead weight, what else are we supposed to do? We can't lift them like they weight 1lbs. Just about everything we do to help these people can be classified as abuse. You try to roll patients who are very heavy and cannot help themselves and they are always going "ouch" or "you're too rough"...or if a RN/LPN walks in and sees something and is quick to say you are doing it wrong and abusing the resident.

The other complaint was getting them dressed too early. There was only one particular set that was very exhausting and stressful that I HAD to get them dressed early. They had to be up at 5am, and I would just dress them at 3:30am instead of 4am. If I hadn't of started early I would have been behind. And all the other CNAs are too preoccupied with their workload to give me a hand all the time. I specifically asked the RN if this was in the employee handbook that we were not allowed to dress them at 3:30am and she started dancing around the issue..I stressed that there was no policy in the Nursing Home that stated it was against rules to do this. As a new CNA, how are we supposed to know it's wrong?? Especially, if we have not been properly trained! When I started working there it was really up to everyone's own discretion as to what time they get their residents up. Not everyone got them up at 4am. When I told her this, she specifically asked me for names and was ready to fire other CNAs of course I refused. I am not malicious at all. And I really liked my fellows CNAs very well, and they work very hard.

Lastly, the RN claimed I had many other complaints against me, and when I asked her what they were she said, "I have many things to do right now and I don't have time to be on the phone with you all day". With persistance on my part she finally told me that the other complaints were about the way my 'sets' looked.

I asked why was I not made aware of all these issues. She said she called me but I was never picked up the phone.

I TRULY felt that I was doing the job to the best of my ability. Everyday, when I came to work I thought I was doing the RIGHT thing. I had no complaints from other CNAs, in fact I helped them dress some of their residents. Just to think that everyday I came to work I was doing EVERYTHING wrong. I am very hurt and dissappointed. My intentions were always to do a good job. I was doing what I thought was right.

Lastly, the whole confrontation between me and the LPN was such a set-up to get me fired. The confrontation was what got me written up and taken off the schedule, but when I get there it was not addressed at all!

I know this post is long but I really need to vent. But I have talked to my mother and father and told me that I do not want to work in a nursing home ever again. I still want to be a RN, but not a CNA. I truly feel like there is VERY little respect for what we do and its easy for us to make so many wrong mistakes. I don't want to go through this ever again. I might find a job in retail or something. This experience has really jaded me a bit.

Specializes in Telemetry.

A suggestion for your next position:

When you are approached by a supervisor having a problem with something you did/are doing, apologize, tell them you want to improve, and ask for suggestions on how to better do your job the way they'd like you to. Then LISTEN!!

If you respond to them the way you responded here you aren't getting anywhere. No one cares about the "why" when you aren't properly doing your job. They want you to fix it.

Okay, with so little help and short staffing what do you suggest I have done ?

Anything other than penalize the residents. If the care there is truly so bad, you can report them to the state, who I guarantee will not take too kindly to residents being awakened for dressing at 0330 because the staff is getting into trouble.

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.
After this experience, I don't want to be a CNA anymore. I do not have any luck in this field, I have the worst luck.

I recently spoke with the Nursing home who terminated me to get the real reason why I was let go and things got real ugly. The RN was rude, had me on speakerphone so other RNs/LPNs could chme in aganst me. I ended up crying after the conversation.

Apparently, they said that there were too many complaints against me before I even reached 90 days. One of them was being getting a write up for one diaper being soaking wet.

And then a major one that almost cost my certification being stripped away from me involving a resident and his "shoe". His shoe was put on wrong, and his toes were curled under or something like that. He has arthritis. His son came up there to visit him and said that his father was screaming in pain because of how his shoe was put on. He was so angry that he was going to call state on the Nursing home, and try to get my certification taken away from me. I was unaware that it was this serious when I was employed. I was just told that his shoe was put on wrong and that I was not allowed to get him dressed anymore.

Still, I do not see how that could have happened. He had hard leather sneakers that easily slid on his foot.

The RN who I talked to claim that I ignored the pain and agony he was in--I told her that he was not in any pain when I put his shoes on. Then she switched it up and said he was SCREAMING after I had left my shift.

Then I asked how was I supposed to know if something was wrong--his shoes were perfectly fine when I put them on, he was not in any pain.

She claimed that what I did was not intentional and it was a case of being careless. You cannot tell if something is wrong with his foot because it looks fine when you put them on. Well, I argued why is he wearing hard leather sneakers if he has arthritis then?? Why doesn't he have cloth slippers so this doesn't happen again?

She claims that I was the only person this has ever happened with and since it has not occured again with another CNA.

I really don't know what I could have done differently. What happened was the inevitable. I still assured her that if they continue to make him wear those shoes it WILL happen again, despite her claims.

The other complaint was that I was too rough with a female resident. She complained to a CNA that a girl was not very gentle with her and that she did not want her ever again.

That was the first time I had ever dealt with the woman and I had been working there for nearly 3 months. She was having major difficulty getting up so I did the best I could to help her. Maybe I was a bit too rough with her, but I don't see how I could have gotten her up if I didn't put all my strength into lifting her.

It's really hard being a CNA. It is NOT easy lifting people with a lot of dead weight, what else are we supposed to do? We can't lift them like they weight 1lbs. Just about everything we do to help these people can be classified as abuse. You try to roll patients who are very heavy and cannot help themselves and they are always going "ouch" or "you're too rough"...or if a RN/LPN walks in and sees something and is quick to say you are doing it wrong and abusing the resident.

The other complaint was getting them dressed too early. There was only one particular set that was very exhausting and stressful that I HAD to get them dressed early. They had to be up at 5am, and I would just dress them at 3:30am instead of 4am. If I hadn't of started early I would have been behind. And all the other CNAs are too preoccupied with their workload to give me a hand all the time. I specifically asked the RN if this was in the employee handbook that we were not allowed to dress them at 3:30am and she started dancing around the issue..I stressed that there was no policy in the Nursing Home that stated it was against rules to do this. As a new CNA, how are we supposed to know it's wrong?? Especially, if we have not been properly trained! When I started working there it was really up to everyone's own discretion as to what time they get their residents up. Not everyone got them up at 4am. When I told her this, she specifically asked me for names and was ready to fire other CNAs of course I refused. I am not malicious at all. And I really liked my fellows CNAs very well, and they work very hard.

Lastly, the RN claimed I had many other complaints against me, and when I asked her what they were she said, "I have many things to do right now and I don't have time to be on the phone with you all day". With persistance on my part she finally told me that the other complaints were about the way my 'sets' looked.

I asked why was I not made aware of all these issues. She said she called me but I was never picked up the phone.

I TRULY felt that I was doing the job to the best of my ability. Everyday, when I came to work I thought I was doing the RIGHT thing. I had no complaints from other CNAs, in fact I helped them dress some of their residents. Just to think that everyday I came to work I was doing EVERYTHING wrong. I am very hurt and dissappointed. My intentions were always to do a good job. I was doing what I thought was right.

Lastly, the whole confrontation between me and the LPN was such a set-up to get me fired. The confrontation was what got me written up and taken off the schedule, but when I get there it was not addressed at all!

I know this post is long but I really need to vent. But I have talked to my mother and father and told me that I do not want to work in a nursing home ever again. I still want to be a RN, but not a CNA. I truly feel like there is VERY little respect for what we do and its easy for us to make so many wrong mistakes. I don't want to go through this ever again. I might find a job in retail or something. This experience has really jaded me a bit.

"Luck" has nothing to do with it. Taking responsibility for one's actions and learning from mistakes is what carries a person through when the going gets tough. Almost every worker will, in his or her lifetime, experience bad management, irritating co-workers, irate customers, and heavy workloads; this is not unique to CNAs or LTC facilities. But when we keep running into the same problems over and over again, it's time to take a long, hard and honest look at ourselves and consider that 'they' just may be right.........that maybe, some of the blame lies with us.

Ms. Nurse Assistant, you have received some excellent advice here. It sounds as though you have the best of intentions and want to be a conscientious employee, but you have some work to do, especially before you go on to nursing school. Please, for your sake and that of your future patients, take some time away from health care and do some growing up. For what it's worth, I wouldn't have been good at this in my youth either.........I had a LOT of maturing to do before I took on such grave responsibilities, and I've never regretted waiting till later in life to become a nurse.

I wish you the best.:)

Specializes in Telemetry.
Anything other than penalize the residents. If the care there is truly so bad, you can report them to the state, who I guarantee will not take too kindly to residents being awakened for dressing at 0330 because the staff is getting into trouble.

Amen.

I was just thinking, if I was going to do something technically wrong on the job, in this situation you can bet I'd be getting in trouble for not having residents in the dining room at 5 am... not for waking them up at 330. And if facility policy was to have them in the dining room for 3 hours before breakfast is even served, sitting there sleeping in their wheelchairs, I think I'd surely follow it up the chain about changing that.

You have missed the part about advocating for pts/residents in all of this.

A suggestion for your next position:

When you are approached by a supervisor having a problem with something you did/are doing, apologize, tell them you want to improve, and ask for suggestions on how to better do your job the way they'd like you to. Then LISTEN!!

If you respond to them the way you responded here you aren't getting anywhere. No one cares about the "why" when you aren't properly doing your job. They want you to fix it.

I told them about that particular set and how I needed extra help. They didn't do anything about it. A lot of nursing homes are like this, which is why they run through so many CNAs because they don't effectively find a way to combat the heavy workload. They will never keep CNAs with this kind of attitude, expecting us to fix something when we are not given the efficient tools to do the fixing.

Amen.

I was just thinking, if I was going to do something technically wrong on the job, in this situation you can bet I'd be getting in trouble for not having residents in the dining room at 5 am... not for waking them up at 330. And if facility policy was to have them in the dining room for 3 hours before breakfast is even served, sitting there sleeping in their wheelchairs, I think I'd surely follow it up the chain about changing that.

You have missed the part about advocating for pts/residents in all of this.

No one is being supportive of the CNAs either.

I mentioned how the heavy workload can cause a CNA to work past their shift which can result in a write-up. No one seems to care about that. The management didn't do anything about the heavy workload either. With this kind of support no wonder so many people quit or get fired. If you don't treat the CNAs right then how do you expect the residents to get treated right as well?

i too, think you may consider delaying nsg school.

every single post that has focused on your unwillingness to take responsibility for yourself, you have ignored....not responded to.

and yet, you keep on asking, "what can i do?"

and still, you don't listen.

your pt's rights and dignities, will always trump those of your superiors.

always.

you should state your concerns, in writing, to your immediate supervisors.

if you get no response, you go to the person above them.

at least you have it documented that you shared your concerns.

in the meantime, you change/toilet your pts and give them the best care possible.

if the state ever intervened, they would commend your actions, and not those of your supervisors.

but somehow, i don't think you're hearing any of this.

whatever path you pursue, please remember, defensiveness is an obstruction, preventing you from learning some very important lessons in life.

wishing you well.

leslie

Specializes in Telemetry.
I told them about that particular set and how I needed extra help. They didn't do anything about it. A lot of nursing homes are like this, which is why they run through so many CNAs because they don't effectively find a way to combat the heavy workload. They will never keep CNAs with this kind of attitude, expecting us to fix something when we are not given the efficient tools to do the fixing.

Telling them you need help is not the same thing as asking for suggestions. Its comes off like an excuse.

Specializes in psychiatry.
Not completely possible to do single handedly.

Exactly. What this CNA is describing is not something one person should be expected to do all by themselves. I have worked as a CNA, and I have also been abused by nurses who refuse to help me. However, I have for the most part had an excellent working relationship. And when I need help I make sure someone is there to help. By the same token, I am eager to help other nurses and CNAs. It works both ways. I worked in a hospital, which is also very different from a nursing home.

Specializes in Cardiac Care.
No one is being supportive of the CNAs either.

It's not about the CNA's.

It's about your patients and their well-being. As someone else pointed out, I'd rather be in trouble for advocating for the rights of my patients, than to be in trouble for harming them.

I wish for you a better situation in your next position.

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.
No one is being supportive of the CNAs either.

I mentioned how the heavy workload can cause a CNA to work past their shift which can result in a write-up. No one seems to care about that. The management didn't do anything about the heavy workload either. With this kind of support no wonder so many people quit or get fired. If you don't treat the CNAs right then how do you expect the residents to get treated right as well?

CNAs are NOT helpless, especially not in contrast to the frail elderly and disabled under their care. No matter where a CNA works, s/he can always choose to leave and go to another facility if the conditions are unsatisfactory. Too bad the residents don't have the same options.:o

I think your main problem is that you work in LTC. I'm sure there are some good ones out there somewhere, but I've never actually seen one.

Also, there isn't an administrator anywhere who would spend 2 minutes of their time to listen to a CNA's concerns/complaints. If the CNA can't/won't do exactly what they want them to do, they just replace them.

A CNA would get fired from every job they took if they actually tried to be a patient advocate. The crap that administration expects the CNA's to do is horrible for the patients but they will have it done one way or the other. A CNA who stands up for the patient will be fired and if they move to another LTC and stand up for the patient at that one, guess what? They'll get fired there, too!

I feel sorry for anyone who has to live/have family in LTC. My grandpa spent the last two years of his life in our local one and it was the saddest existence you can imagine. When I worked in the ED, it was shocking to see the shape of the residents when they were sent to our hospital. It would break your heart.

My husband's a LPN working LTC and he says it's is a miracle that anyone manages to stay alive there. He has actually checked with the BON to see if some of the nurses he works with are really licensed. Some of the things he has described would lead you to believe that maybe they've never really been to nursing school.

He also said he can't believe how many of the LPN's will actively try to sabatoge the CNA's. He says the hostility towards them is sickening. He tries to help the CNA's out because he realizes that they work way too hard for what they get paid and they don't deserve the treatment they get from the female staff.

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