How many nurses here have their license currently suspended? - page 6

I have been an RN for 5 years. Two years ago, a small hospital in which I was practicing reported to my state BON every mistake I had made during my entire 2 years of employment. This happened AFTER... Read More

  1. by   ayndim
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    Carry malpractice insurance? It might not stop them from trying, but it might certainly keep them from succeeding.

    http://www.nso.com/
    I am a pre-nursing student but from the time I start clinicals I will carry malpractice insurance. I have other reasons to but one reason is the access to an attorney if I should have to go up before the BON. Some of the OP's problems might have been avoided had she had an attorney the first time. And I am sure the 100 or odd dollars I pay per year will be much cheaper than the attorney I would have to pay out of pocket.

    My license protection is not the only reason but I think I made my feelings known on the other threads.
  2. by   sleepless in norman
    Read my story entitled " Down and Dirty in the Oklahoma State Board of Nursing " it's posted in this forum, it will enlighten you to the real world of nursing. Good Luck.
    Quote from gr82luvme
    As a nursing student, stories like these frighten me and give me a reality check. Thank you for sharing your story.

    Your errors were human, your accountability was admirable, and you sound like a nurse I would respect.

    You'll be in my prayers... best of luck to you.

    Deanna
  3. by   ZZTopRN
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    Quote from Nurseprotect
    My response is based on several years of assisting nurses with board of nursing complaints through Nurseprotect.


    <<< No offense but I really don't think we are hearing the full story. >>>

    Chad, offense taken - but you are typical of MOST nurses on the planet when it comes to a complaint against a colleague's license. That nurse MUST have done something wrong.

    To the nurse who started this thread, don't waste your time and energy trying to convince these people of what you and I already know - even if they pretend to be supportive, they will still assume that YOU are the problem - that is one way that humans protect themselves from believing that bad things could happen to them.

    "THE BON IS NOT YOUR FRIEND." Are you back in business, Lee? Are you working in San Diego?

    mv

    I do not see this mentality changing and I do not see our lot improving in this nasty trade.

    <<< To my knowledge unless you had a med error which caused a death or an adverse reaction I don't see why the hospital would report it to the BON, there just simply is no reason to.>>>

    Why is there no reason to report all errors? Just because a patient was harmed or died, what is the difference between a good outcome and one that results in death when an error occurs? Read the literature on this topic - the EXPERTS ask this question often.

    <<< Two missed doses being means for action on your license? Well I guess myself and 99.9 of the nurses on this board need to turn in our licenses. >>>

    ALL of the nurses, myself included, would need to turn in our licenses. NOBODY practices without error.

    As if errors were not enough, do you know the other things that a board could come after you for? If I told you, if I presented legal documents, you would not believe me. . . Just don't piss off your manager, administrator, or other nurses and you might be ok.

    This nurses story is so common that I don't even get angry anymore when I hear about this type of retaliation. It is simply that rotten way things are in nursing. It is NOT going to change soon. With this being said, and multiple case files of evidence attesting to this fact, there are still too many nurses who refuse to believe what I have written. I will not change this fact.

    Our system is VERY sick. Errors are used by administration if and when it is convenient for them to discredit a nurse - especially a nurse that points out dangerous practices within a system.

    This retaliation has been well documented in nursing literature. Case files of the evidence exist in nurse attorney's offices nationwide -- worldwide. NOTHING has changed for many years and I don't foresee it changing any time soon.

    Of course, it will NEVER happen to you/me because you/I are/am such a good, conscientious nurse. . .

    With that said,

    Happy happy joyous fricken New Year to all of my nurse colleagues! : )

    Steve Lee, RN
    nurseprotect@earthlink.net
    512-740-1841 mobile
    Austin Texas - home
    and
    San Diego/Los Angeles California - work
  4. by   stevierae
    Quote from mattsmom81
    If I had the energy i would go to law school, become a nurse attorney and help nurses...the stories my nurse attorney told me curled my hair...she devotes her entire practice to protecting Texas nurses who have been railroaded. She keeps very busy.
    Maybe texas RNs should think about UNIONIZING!!!!
  5. by   Malt123
    this is not just in Texas it goes on all over. unfortunately the way the system works in most facilities is the nurse is over worked and is subject to any type of retaliation that they want to inflict, because they choose to do it. Some times I think the DON is just too inexperienced to tell the difference between real error's and charting errors. in any case we the nurses are in a position where we are subjected to this ignorance. I couldn't tell you how often I was written up for so called med errors.example: held ativan due to severe lethargy was charted, doc called, family was aware, put resident on watch. this should never have been an issue, the person that wrote it up didn't look to see what was going on. another one, written up for not giving a Vanco IV: trough was 23, pt. was to be on this for at least a month, called doc,called pharmacy and this was all documented and reported to the oncoming nurse who happened to be an agency nurse. even though nothing became of this it takes a lot of time away from the unit. some people actually think those med cards are a way of telling if a med was not given. I couldn't tell you how many times that I punched a pill out and then discovered the nurse the day before hadn't given it. I told the supervisor about this and she said they will blame you. some times these pills are poured and wasted because they won't take it then the family comes in and they want to try so you punch out another pill, looks like you double dosed. and yes some times this stuff doesn't get charted.
  6. by   mattsmom81
    Quote from stevierae
    Maybe texas RNs should think about UNIONIZING!!!!
    Apparently not enough nurses down here feel unions would help. Failed x 3.
  7. by   VickyRN
    I always advise my students to choose their practice areas very, very carefully, as some areas are so toxic and/ or unsafe that they can destroy a nurse professionally. I warn my students to stay away from certain units or certain facilities.
  8. by   Midwest4me
    "One of my coworkers was using an herbal medicine for weight loss and she tested positive on her drug screen...found after an incident at work..she had a mild stroke on the job, ended up admitted, TPTB drug tested her and voila... opened up all kinds of problems for her and ended up with her being fired. Very sad story but shows what can be done with info. The truth is she had health problems (Lupus) and they used this info to get rid of her...[/QUOTE]
    What a terrible thing to happen! Sounds like a violation of her confidential information--ussed to fire her.....seems to me she could/should have slapped a lawsuit on her employer based on that...you know--a HIPPA violation? Did she think of doing that or consult her attorney(if she had one?) Seems at times that we as nurse have NO rights!
  9. by   allamericangirl
    We seem to live in a world where "accidents" no longer exist, and what used to be accidental has become "negligent", "incompetetence", etc. Our society must place "blame" and have "retaliation" for anything and everything! It is not just in Nursing ... it is everywhere.

    A child is injured playing with a toy, the manufacturer gets sued. People smoke cigarettes, the tobaco company is sued. There is an automobile accident, someone in it gets sued. A parent's child is injured playing, the parent is accused by authorities of neglect. It is really a SICK society. The human attitude has to change before blaming and retaliation for our being "wronged" will stop. We are off the deep end and caught up in a viscous circle of blame and blaming! We can't blame all misfortunes in life on someone or something else and then expect to be compensated by getting financial or emotional satisfaction through blame, vindication, and bringing harm to someone or something else.

    Accidents do happen and blaming and retaliation does not make accidents and mistakes stop.

    People love to sue. Someone dies and the family can't wait to blame someone and file a law suit! A mistake is made on the job and there is always a peer waiting to jump on it and put their fellow worker down in order to make themselves look good. Unfortunately we live in a mean world full of evil doers, and self rightous egotists. It isn't a pleasant realization but it is a fact in today's world. These things won't change until we change.

    "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." "He who is without sin, cast the first stone." My, my... wouldn't it be a different world if everyone would just remember and practice those two little sentences!?
    Last edit by allamericangirl on Jan 8, '05
  10. by   allamericangirl
    Quote from VickyRN
    I always advise my students to choose their practice areas very, very carefully, as some areas are so toxic and/ or unsafe that they can destroy a nurse professionally. I warn my students to stay away from certain units or certain facilities.

    VICKY

    Would you mind giving some general areas where it would be best to consider as high risk areas to be working within a hospital? I am green as grass, and would really appreciate your input on this!
  11. by   VickyRN
    Quote from allamericangirl
    VICKY

    Would you mind giving some general areas where it would be best to consider as high risk areas to be working within a hospital? I am green as grass, and would really appreciate your input on this!
    Not to start a flame war, but, as a rule of thumb, medical-surgical units. Ratios are generally terrible, patients are very SICK... just five years ago many of the patients on the general floor would have been in the ICU! Ironically, we instructors USED to advise our students to take a year of med-surg right out of school... but not anymore! I now advise my students to go to the cardiac stepdown units. However, every area and hospital is different. My advice is to talk to your instructors or nurses on certain floors of the hospital in which you are interested in going.
  12. by   Malt123
    WOW and you do you feel should work the med/surg units?
  13. by   VickyRN
    Quote from Malt123
    WOW and you do you feel should work the med/surg units?
    Obviously someone needs to staff these units. But that someone doesn't have to be you, if the unit is unsafe. And I'm not saying all med-surg units are that way. Some are actually wonderful. It depends on the area and the institution. Some of the smaller outlying hospitals in my area have generally pleasant and safe med-surg floors. The most popular hospital in our area, however, has very rough med-surg floors (that's why I advise them to go to the cardiac step-downs instead). One nice thing about the nursing shortage is that we can generally be very choosy about where we practice. However (as is often the case) good units are few and far between

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