How does your facility define "Lateness to work" - page 3

Have counseled 2 staff members for lateness since 12/06 following health systems progressive counseling policy (met 3 x so far, signed form by staff each time acknowledgeing must be on time),... Read More

  1. by   TigerGalLE
    Just to support my generation. I think there are slackers in every generation first of all. Second of all maybe it has more to do with immaturity and not the fact that it is just our generation. Teens and young adults maybe just haven't learned how to behave like adults yet. You can't blame it on that generation. I know just as many young adults who are chronically late as I do older adults who are chronically late. IMO it is a personality trait... not a generational trait..

    I'm not jumping on anyone. I'm just giving my .02
  2. by   cardsRN
    a few threads here lately have turned into a "these kids today" kind of thing. it is interesting. i too believe that lateness and the lack of regard for others it speaks of are more a personality trait thing than an age thing.
  3. by   TazziRN
    Quote from TigerGalLE
    Teens and young adults maybe just haven't learned how to behave like adults yet.
    I agree that it's not a generational trait, but young adults who are in professions where a person's life depends on that young adult, s/he sure as aych-ee-double toothpicks had better mature fast!!
  4. by   Indy
    What's interesting to me is that, at my current job, the one chronically late person is old enough to be my mother.
  5. by   Quickbeam
    I really do not see this as a generational thing. I feel it is a personality trait. I also saw some of the worst offenders use the crutch of their kids/grandkids as a reason for lateness on a daily basis. In my experience, it crosses all age delineations.
  6. by   NRSKarenRN
    Thanks for your insights.

    Two months ago personaly reviewed with each person facility P+P regarding lateness including last step final seperation = termination of employment.

    One person was off today, other staff member in by 11:55AM with computer up and running....they want to stay employed.

    Hoping this is last staff conversation on issue.
  7. by   Roy Fokker
    Quote from indy
    what's interesting to me is that, at my current job, the one chronically late person is old enough to be my mother.
    yep, same here.

    and so is the preceptor who drilled it into my head on my first day of orientation that i "better be early to work than late" or i'd catch all kinds of heck from the nurses i was relieving.

    i am so glad i had her for a preceptor. could not have asked for a better one!

    cheers,

    ps: i had an argument with 13 year old cousin a few days ago. it was my day off and i was supposed to drop the brat off to school since his parents had to leave early for work. he saunters downstairs for breakfast 10 minutes late and leaves me with about 10 minutes to get him to school. it is do-able but it violates the principle of the thing.

    i lit into him about being late and he shrugs his shoulders and says "what are you getting so upset about? it's not a big deal".

    he wastes my time. not money. not property. my time.
    and he says "not a big deal" ??? :angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire

    few things really make me angry - but inconsiderate people who waste the time of others top the list!
  8. by   Cattitude
    Quote from roy fokker
    ps: i had an argument with 13 year old cousin a few days ago. it was my day off and i was supposed to drop the brat off to school since his parents had to leave early for work. he saunters downstairs for breakfast 10 minutes late and leaves me with about 10 minutes to get him to school. it is do-able but it violates the principle of the thing.

    i lit into him about being late and he shrugs his shoulders and says "what are you getting so upset about? it's not a big deal".

    he wastes my time. not money. not property. my time.
    and he says "not a big deal" ??? :angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire

    few things really make me angry - but inconsiderate people who waste the time of others top the list!
    oh my. but this is how they are growing up for some reason. and then they end up in the workforce and when a supvr. like smilingblueyes calls them on their behavior they act completely shocked.
    co workers and supervisors should not have to finish raising these entitled ones. parents need to do a better job. i have a much younger sister and i constantly try to instill a good work ethic into her. she is 18 and not entitlement minded but doesn't exactly get it as far as time importance factors are concerned .
  9. by   fultzymom
    Seven mintues past your time to be there is late. If you are late x3 that is when you start your counseling. If you are late x7 in one year, they have grounds for termination.
  10. by   NRSKarenRN
    18yo culinary student son is up at 4AM to be at school by 6:15AM as desire/passion to become Chef so strong "nothing stopping him".
    Great turnaround for child took 45 minutes getting dressed in AM grade school till 10th grade, still with shoe laces untied. Now he's the one prying older brother out of bed to catch train/drive to college.

    Learning early and being held to adult work rules after HS graduation is the key.
  11. by   SmilingBluEyes
    How do they deal with tardiness where I am? Not strongly enough, if you ask me. I mean, some things can't be helped, traffic accidents/jams, emergencies, even missing the alarm and sleeping too late on the rare occasion, but people who are chronically tardy should be dealt with!!!! Where I am, seems, everyone looks the other way. I just about am the only one who seems inclined to actually SAY something. Ugh.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Apr 12, '07
  12. by   SmilingBluEyes
    PS like Roy, mark me down as one who arrives about 15 minutes early. I like to be early for a lot of reasons; to get myself together, get my water, settle myself, look at the board to see what's up on the unit--- and also I pick my own assignments, a distinct advantage to being there early. I do all this and then clock in, never having to rush. I hate being late and like I said, I WILL confront those who are chronically late myself with a "hey what's up, do you need to set your clocks earlier or something?" and I WILL rush report at them with all I have and tell them they are on MY time now. They may not like this, but oh well. My time is as precious to me as theirs may be to them.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Apr 12, '07
  13. by   ginger58
    Just terminate them. That's unacceptable by any standards. A hospital is a business and it needs to count on staff arriving on time. Our policy is 7 minutes. If you clock in at 0708 you don't get paid until 0715.
    I was always told that one is to be ready to work at 0700.

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