How Did a BSN Help Your Career (Or Not) - page 6

Please ... this is NOT an ADN vs. BSN thread. I don't want to go there. I am merely asking BSN nurses if they feel the bachelor's provided more career opportunities, or not. If so, what kind of... Read More

  1. by   Bikechicky
    [i][color="silver"]i have been debating on whether or not i should go on for a bsn. there's a mostly on-line program that i had planned on doing this year, but changed my mind. i just can't make up my mind. like a previous poster, i don't have any specific plans for what i want to do once i get it. i just like the idea of having as many doors opened as possible. i don't want to go on for np, i don't want to teach... it seems like maybe it's not worth the time, energy and expense. i would not make any more money if i get it and i have no tuition reimbursement available.
    anyway, it's been quite interresting to read this thread.[/quote]
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    ]i agree with orsmurf above. i have 30 years experience bedside nursing as a diploma rn. in august i will complete my accelerated bsn (yeah!!) why did i do it? not for any of the reasons listed by others. i simply wanted to prove to myself and others i could. i've found the non-nursing courses interesting, and most of the nursing courses boring! as someone else said, lots of jumping through hoops! but i'm so glad i've done it.
  2. by   judisdream
    What an interesting topic. I too have went the route from LPN to ASN to BSN and am now in a Master's program. All over the last 25 years. I decided to go on for my BSN because it was a job requirment ( I was working in management) but now am glad that I did it. I have seen many more oppurtunites open up to me. I can look at state and federal level jobs that I could not have obtained before. I have also seen alot of growth in myself. A BSN gives you the "why" of things and I feel a better perspective on creating a culture of change in our current healthcare system. Go for it!!!
  3. by   olderthandirt
    Many states are now requiring a BSN to work as a nurse. NY is considering this. They will give current RN's 10 years to complete the 4 year degree.
  4. by   JBudd
    Your BSN does not have to relate only to your career, although I know that is what the OP's question says. I took classes that had nothing to do with nursing on the way to nursing school (2 years pre-reqs, then 5 semesters nursing school). I was exposed to worlds of information and ideas that were great, and over the years have stood me in good stead one way or another. Education for the sake of education is worth it in itself.

    Since I went straight for the BSN, I can't comment on what an ADN program did or didn't give, that I got. I do know that a lot of the leadership and management courses have been useful over the years, and even told some of my supervisors which theories the hospital was pushing at any given time (snicker, snicker ) 20 years after the BSN, I'm now going for a Masters, just for the heck of it, and learning a lot here too.

    And since nursing is far more than "just" patient care, all those extra subjects can help you help your patient with the larger picture, social aspects etc. Yes, I'm still at the bedside, doing direct patient care, although I do a fair amount of charge nurse stuff I have steadfastly refused to move into management.
  5. by   henry01
    Hey. You replied to my post...I do have a bachelors degree...it is a BBA. My question is does it really make sense to have another bachelors degree. I am currently enrolled in an ADN program and am wondering why I would be looked over for a supervisor role with a BBA (bachelor business administration). If my BBA is not enough with an ADN, then I guess it would make more sense to get a MSN, right? I just don't believe a second bachelors degrees would be more helpful. Many schools will accept my ADN and BBA to enroll in a MSN program. If ADN and BBA is not enough education for a mgr role...then I am thinking an MSN may serve me better...If I have to put in more schooling anyway. Am I thinking clearly on this? What do you think?
  6. by   RN34TX
    Quote from olderthandirt
    Many states are now requiring a BSN to work as a nurse. NY is considering this. They will give current RN's 10 years to complete the 4 year degree.
    There are no states in the U.S. that require a BSN to work as a nurse at this time.
    NY's plan to do this is currently dead and not even remotely close to being implemented at any time in the near future.
  7. by   henry01
    Hey. I am certainly not discounting more education, but for me...enough is enough. My bba has served me well for mgr roles in corporate america. I thought the bba and adn were going to be a good combo.
  8. by   hpcat
    "Many states are now requiring a BSN to work as a nurse. NY is considering this. They will give current RN's 10 years to complete the 4 year degree."

    The bill died in committee (probably due to the shortage, a possible shortage of slots in schools, plus some groups were complaining it discriminated against lower income people who wanted to go into nursing).

    However, I think to maximize your potential for the greatest # of opportunities, you need to get as much education as possible. Due to how complex nursing is becoming due to new technologies, I doubt that an ADN will be sufficient in another 10-20 years.

    I have a BA in social sciences and am working on my ADN. The college I got my BA from has an online MSN program that you can get into with a nursing portfolio, RN and any Bachelor's degree. If I go into their RN to BSN or MSN program, I have to take 5 more pre-req courses totaling 17 credits. The individual MSN program requires only 2 more credits over the RN to MSN program and no pre-reqs.

    So even though I am not working in a social sciences field, my BA is still working for me.
  9. by   hpcat
    Hi! I'm definitely going the ADN to MSN route (with my BA in social sciences) - if you can avoid any extra time or cost (like pre-reqs), go for it!
  10. by   mwhittin
    Even though I am an Associate degree graduate from the 1980's, my experiences have allowed me to move through different roles including management, i.e. Director of Nursing, Administrator, and now New Hire Support/Retention Specialist. But, I do feel that I have had to justify my knowledge and abilities just because I do not have that B.S.N. I am certainly capable of doing particular jobs, but I have been "passed over" solely on the lack of credentials. More than anything I want to prove to myself that I can complete that Bachelor's degree. So, now, after 20+ years, I am breaking down and starting classes in order to complete the B.S.N. Do I think that I will be a better nurse? I don't know, but I am certain that I will learn a lot, mainly because I am finally in the space that I want a B.S.N., not feeling like that I have to get one to make other people happy. Also, I am certain that additional opportunities will be available to me with that credential. Who knows? Maybe this "dyed in the wool" ADN will even advance to a masters or doctorate. Wish me luck!
  11. by   Monica RN,BSN
    I Am too an ASN then BSN nurse. The BSN has allowed me to hold upper managemnet positions as I have been a DON, ADON, and supervisor in several capacities. I am also an educator throughout our community with a Fla Board of nursing contact hour provider number. That is how it has helped me..Good Luck toall who are pursuing the BSN programs.
  12. by   Daytonite
    Quote from olderthandirt
    many states are now requiring a bsn to work as a nurse. ny is considering this. they will give current rn's 10 years to complete the 4 year degree.
    i have to say that this continual idea that ny is going to require all their rns to have a bsn has been around for many years. it was talked about when i was in nursing school back in 1973!!! so, it is not an old idea in ny. with the state of healthcare and current national shortage of nurses i wonder that it is even feasible to enact unless the state makes for, or mandates employers to make for, some serious money available for this to be accomplished by the nurses. there are huge repercussions when monumental decisions like this are made. when governor schwarzenegger signed the legislation mandating the lowered patient to nurse ratio staffing law out here in california several years ago, a number of hospitals, i believe it was 45, had to close within a year because they couldn't meet that mandate. that had a backlash on the other hospitals in those communities who had to assume the burden of taking on those patients that would have previously gone to those hospitals. i would think that there are people in the ny legislature that are aware that something of a similar nature could happen in ny and would want to build protections against such a backlash. another problem i can see is that not all rns are going to be scholastically capable of doing the schoolwork necessary to get a bsn. what kind of provision are they going to make for those rns? and, how about the rns who came by their licenses as a result of completing a course in a hospital school of nursing outside the state rather than in a college?
  13. by   nfahren05
    Outside of staff nursing, an RN will do little for you today or tomorrow. A BSN today will open new doors everywhere, managment, consulting, education, insurance, research, pharma, public health, policy - or completely outside healthcare - a college degree says "I can hack it". Go for it.[/QUOTE]

    Actually, outside of nursing, it doesn't matter if your bachelor's is a BSN. Consulting, public health, and pharma companies generally prefer the highest related degree and most professional experience available. Even inside nursing, the only real incentive for picking the BSN is a desire to teach or to get a advanced practice certification (CNM, NNP, PNP, etc.) If you are thinking about management, you will do as well by getting the BA/BS, and then follow up by pursuing an MBA, MPH or MHA, any of which will generally give a stronger administrative background than most MSN programs. This is not to say that the nursing programs are not without some advantages, but access to nursing programs is limited in many parts of the country, and those nurses who have better access to non-nursing programs may want to at least consider them.

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