Homelessness - page 2

If you graduate nursing school, assuming you were living with your parents, and you had a lot of student loans and your parents said, "You graduated, now, get out" and you found a job as an RN in a... Read More

  1. by   Wuzzie
    Quote from Coffee Nurse
    Well, he said his parents kicked him out, and that he had no money and "had [not wanted] to live in a van." so I assumed a roof over the head was the goal. And as the van situation was to enable working as an RN, presumably after six months he'd - have an income to pay rent with? I agree that rent is not an investment, but I've been paying it for ten years now and I've been far happier living in apartments than I would've been in a camper van.
    No he said he didn't want the stress of paying rent or a mortgage. He said he wants to live in a van. Some people find that freeing. So I gave him a suggestion for maybe stepping it up a bit from a cargo van. Geesh, you'd think I suggested he live in a cardboard box. Our own Ruby Vee lives on a boat.
  2. by   Coffee Nurse
    Quote from Wuzzie
    No he said he didn't want the stress of paying rent or a mortgage. He said he wants to live in a van. Some people find that freeing. So I gave him a suggestion for maybe stepping it up a bit from a cargo van. Geesh, you'd think I suggested he live in a cardboard box. Our own Ruby Vee lives on a boat.
    "say you had no money and you had to live in a van for awhile" is literally what he said. There was no "want" about it. Other posters have spoken to the stresses of living in a van that, IMHO, sound like they outweigh the stresses of rent/mortgage payments. But I am not invested enough in this topic to continue arguing about it.
  3. by   ItsThatJenGirl
    With all respect, you're not in nursing school yet! So much may change between now and then - try not to stress about your living situation after you graduate. Save as much as you can, and if living in a van is what you want, then do that.

    Have you talked to anyone about your anxiety?
  4. by   Wuzzie
    Quote from Beldar_the_Cenobite
    I'll have enough money saved up by the time I graduate where I can afford a van, preferably white cargo van, where I can avoid the stress of paying rent/mortgage bills.
    Direct quote from the OP without putting my own spin on it. He doesn't want to pay rent. I'm just giving him a better option than a van down by the river. If you're going to shoot down somebody's idea you need to be able to handle their defense of it. If the man doesn't want to pay rent I stand by my suggestion. I'm not saying it's optimal but it is within the parameters of what he said he wants. If he said he didn't mind paying rent then my answer would have gone an entirely different way.
  5. by   Ruas61
    People camp out over night in Wal-Mart parking lot with the company's blessing at a lot of the stores. You can also get a gym membership and clean up.

    It might be a short term problem solver.

    I would be concerned about your safety and potential for getting 'rousted/ticketed' by police.

    Perhaps you can barter your skills for lodging such as live in with elderly or disabled as a companion and still work.
  6. by   KelRN215
    Quote from Ruas61
    Perhaps you can barter your skills for lodging such as live in with elderly or disabled as a companion and still work.
    I searched craigslist in my city for roommate postings in response to this OP and found an extremely creepy post from a 48 year old man looking for a "fun young lady" to live with him for free to "care for his house while he's at his other house" on the opposite coast. There was also the possibility of being his assistant for $500-$700/week.

    I do have a friend whose brother with Down Syndrome lived in some sort of supportive roommate situation where I think the roommate got a good deal for helping him with things like paying his bills and grocery shopping.
  7. by   Ruas61
    Quote from KelRN215
    I searched craigslist in my city for roommate postings in response to this OP and found an extremely creepy post from a 48 year old man looking for a "fun young lady" to live with him for free to "care for his house while he's at his other house" on the opposite coast. There was also the possibility of being his assistant for $500-$700/week.

    I do have a friend whose brother with Down Syndrome lived in some sort of supportive roommate situation where I think the roommate got a good deal for helping him with things like paying his bills and grocery shopping.

    I wasn't suggesting he/she offer themselves up for sexual favors.

    Good grief...
  8. by   KelRN215
    Quote from Ruas61
    I wasn't suggesting he/she offer themselves up for sexual favors.

    Good grief...
    I wasn't suggesting you were. Just saying that if you search craigslist for roommates, there are other options than living in a van.

    This guy's ad said that his personal assistant would "run errands, keep things organized and post ads on the internet." I did think sexual favors when I read it but technically that's not what he's advertising.

    Another option for the OP would be house sitting. I hire house sitters to watch my dogs in my home every time we go away. Someone I work with (she's per diem and towards the end of her career so does what she wants) seems like she's traveling about as much as she's home and she also always hires house sitters for her dog so if you could find 2 people who travel 50% of the time and need house sitters while they're away, you could get paid to watch their houses and then have access to showers and a kitchen.
  9. by   hppygr8ful
    About 30 years ago I found myself homeless and resulted to living in a camp ground in a two man tent with my then ner' do well husband. Let me assure you camping is no fun when you have to do it for a living. There tends to be dirt and mud everywhere and costs for things like food and places to take care of hygiene are hard to find. At least where I was there was a clean shower room. I vote for the suggestion of buying a used van conversion with an actual bed and kitchenette w small refrigerator. Parking at a campground allows you a shower and laundry facility as part of the rent and would be far more comfortable than living in a cargo van with just a mattress and blanket.

    Hppy
  10. by   SpankedInPittsburgh
    I gotta say living in a Cargo Van doesn't seem like a way to avoid stress. Use that saved money to rent a room at least and get a buss pass
  11. by   Wuzzie
    I was thinking about it and at my facility if you were sneaky and moved your camper daily you could theoretically park in one of the garages for $80/mo (and that's directly from your paycheck pre-tax), shower in the hospital (several areas) eat at the cafeteria and there's a Target and a laundrymat within walking distance. Might be a pretty sweet deal. You'd have to make an occasional run in your vehicle to charge the on-board battery. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal. LOL!
  12. by   Beldar_the_Cenobite
    Quote from Ruas61
    People camp out over night in Wal-Mart parking lot with the company's blessing at a lot of the stores. You can also get a gym membership and clean up.

    It might be a short term problem solver.

    I would be concerned about your safety and potential for getting 'rousted/ticketed' by police.

    Perhaps you can barter your skills for lodging such as live in with elderly or disabled as a companion and still work.
    I've had to live in my car (compact sedan) before the VA approved me for HUDVASH (VA section 8). I've encountered two males: One was some aggressive hot shot who thinks anyone sleeping in their car doesn't carry a loaded firearm underneath their blanket and he thinks he can pick on anyone he wants and they won't say anything. He's lucky I didn't have a firearm. He didn't know who I was or how I thought. I could have easily put a gaping hole in his chest from where I was sleeping. The other guy he was with kept telling him to let it go and to move on after seeing I had veteran plates on my car. Next time I live in a vehicle, I'm carrying a compact pistol with a light attachment.

    I didn't face them personally because I was pretending to be dead asleep and when they walked away, I looked up to see if they were still there. Then again, a few years later, a guy was doing the same thing as me and two people approached his car after going around the parking lot car shopping and he stared at the barrel of a gun aiming at him through the window, screamed don't do it and died in his car. Very sad. Hence why a white cargo van, which can blend in with other traffic, is good enough because it gives me safe privacy and the chance to pull out a firearm if I get broke into. I live in Vegas so there's tons of hotels off strip and weekly stays that have open parking lots I could park at. On strip parking lots have charged parking and they're raising rates according to recent local news. I used a gym membership when I was sleeping in my car. I used the trunk for non-perishables: water, ramen, peanut butter crackers, etc.

    My grandmother lives up in Marysville, WA on section 8. She says her neighbors like to snitch and she can't have anybody living with her. She says it's not worth the risk of her losing her section 8. Even though I would be willing to watch over her health and house. It would save me a lot of money, plus, I'd get to spend time with the only family member I can tolerate being around.
  13. by   Beldar_the_Cenobite
    Quote from Coffee Nurse
    I'm living centrally in a large city and 12K would pay my rent for six months. At that point, why not just find a real place to live?
    Wow, $12,000 would pay 6 months worth of rent? In one year, you've paid up to half of what I owe in student loans. $24,000 in one year is also half the price of a new Impala Premier I want to buy if I become an RN. $12,000 may not seem like much money to you, but that's a lot of money to me. That's half of what a new Harley Street Glide costs.

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