Hey, Managers! What's up with the "weeding out" of good nurses? - page 15

Recently there's been a spate of write-ups I've heard about that are basically bogus. Minor infractions that no one else would get written up over. I'm furious. On the surface, it doesn't seem to... Read More

  1. by   Simplepleasures
    Nursing associations and groups are EXCELLENT and we really do need them, BUT they are not going to be able to be there with you in these types of meetings,(our facility would NOT allow any other person to be in a disciplinary or "counseling" meeting ) especially the type of meeting with the "management" regarding these types of trumped up charges.A union stewert will be next to you in that room when you are facing 4 or more of "them". IF the union stewert sucked and did not do his job well, you go to the head of the union and *****! Bad unions can be gotton rid of! I guess I would rather put my trust in a union,even if unions have the reputation of being innefectual or corrupt.Unions have the NLRA to back them and YOU up. We have put our trust in the our employers to act fairly, we depend on the HR department to council the management ( Coroporate Compliance type policies, that are used to make the employee think that the corporation will act ethically) for such a long time and what have we seen happening ? IF your union is no good , dont give up, ther IS a way to get rid of BAD unions.Bottom line, who would you rather trust to do the right thing?
  2. by   Keysnurse2008
    Angieoplasty.....girl...you are preaching to the choir! I have seen excellent nurses...who brought tons of experience to the unit they work on....once they near that top-out salary...poof....those managers (some- the bad ones) become more budget minded and "opt" to get rid of them. I can think of a couple of reasons. First...more experienced nurses are more likely to be vocal about working conditions/staffing ratios or assignment appropriateness, Secondly,...new grads are cheaper.Alot of the write ups are for bogus things....sometimes.....if you are too vocal about conditions they will fire you with no warning at all. It is all about cheap/silent workers....thats whats "in" right now. It is never about experience, or patient safety. It is kinda disheartening really.With experience- comes increased safety and increased resources for the new grads to draw from.Just IMO
  3. by   EmerNurse
    Quote from TNNURSE
    Alot of the write ups are for bogus things....sometimes.....if you are too vocal about conditions they will fire you with no warning at all. It is all about cheap/silent workers....thats whats "in" right now. It is never about experience, or patient safety. It is kinda disheartening really.With experience- comes increased safety and increased resources for the new grads to draw from.Just IMO

    PLEASE someone teach me to keep my mouth shut! I get so head-banging irritated at some things - unfair, unsafe, whatever, and it's SO hard to not say something, but I've already been that route (not fired, just blown off) and know that it gets you nowhere.

    How do I learn to keep my mouth shut regardless of how stupid things are - when common sense would dictate another approach - and keep my sanity?

    Thank God for Allnurses - at least I can vent here.
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    When I read (right here at allnurses.com) of the ridiculously inept, insufficient, disorganized and short orientations new nurses get, before they are expected to take on 7 to 10 acutely-ill and complicated m/s patients or scarier, charge the unit, I see why "oldies" are run off. THEY KNOW BETTER!
  5. by   Sheri257
    Quote from CardioTrans
    Also, the point system.... the nurse had not missed a day since last April. Now she did have some tardies, but was always there. The patients, MDs and other staff loved her. She was a good nurse. Never had a complaint or write up. There were some other nurses on that same unit that had more points than she did, and they are still working there. One of which has had numerous complaints against her from MDs. Whats wrong with that picture?

    It is a sad time in nursing when the good ones are being gotten rid of and the ones who arent are kept.
    Wow ... was she making too much money, perhaps?

    :typing
  6. by   canoehead
    Quote from celeste7767
    I have been a RN since 1975. NEVER had a write up. NEVER had a bad eval; NEVER made ANY errors that resulted in an incident report being written up.
    No way Celeste. That is statistically and literally impossible.

    Listen, I know this guy trying to get rid of some swampland...?
  7. by   twotrees2
    Quote from EmerNurse
    PLEASE someone teach me to keep my mouth shut! I get so head-banging irritated at some things - unfair, unsafe, whatever, and it's SO hard to not say something, but I've already been that route (not fired, just blown off) and know that it gets you nowhere.

    How do I learn to keep my mouth shut regardless of how stupid things are - when common sense would dictate another approach - and keep my sanity?

    Thank God for Allnurses - at least I can vent here.
    i feel your pain - i am the same way - if it weren't for the fact they have no nurses and the ones they get dont stay i would have had the guillotine dropped on me already- i am VERY vocal because thier BS staffing is hurting the residents - they are bringing in anythingandeverything that even the psyc wards wont take - they are bringing in more and more and dont have the staff - i soooo wish state would walk in some night shift or pm shift and see what we are staffed with - one nurse has near 50 resident of the 94 we have - my dementia unit has turned to a psych unit with 6 one on ones that literally need to be run out after cause they get out of the building - they give me 2 aides for these and me - and i am supposed to do anything i am like meds - yeah -ok - and the other nurse is stuck with 2 trachs 5 tube feedings and numerous other skilled things needing done with only 2 aides. night shift is even worse - told the noc nurse tonight id never do it - one nurse 4 aides for 93 or so residents ( ok one is about dead so we wont count that one as he has lots of family there )

    i have emailed my state board asking who's license is on the line when something happens and we are not staffed accordingly - my DON says its hers - HA i dont think so - i am sure my butt is on the line too. i also found we cant not accept unsafe assignments according to our states website or we can be charged with abandonment - so either i call in 2 hours before work thier protocol - or i take the assignment -

    they are now saying they offer a bonus - 5 bucks if over 4 hours picked up extra- if that dont work they will mandate OT for them ( id like to see them try it with me as I'm casual call - ill be out the door ) but the full timers are livid - there is only a few full timers on PMs gonna get stuck with all this mandated OT as the majority of us are casual - as it is most of us casuals are working at least half to 3/4 time as it is - and hell - when i wanted casual it was just for that - casual - sheesh. i gave them a bunch of agency numbers they refuse to use. they dont wanna be working the shift work but they dont wanna get us staff either.

    back to your question - i dont know how to keep your mouth shut cause i am not one that can lol. i watch the ones who can and dont get it how they can be so nicey nicey and then complain - i just go right along my path to the office and ream them - they offering a sign on for any nurse who stays so long - HA - 1000.00 that isn't enough for ANY nurse to put up with what is going on there. we can pray though. i will pray for you to have the patience you need. I'm beyond help lol.

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