Here's how stupid the nursing situation is getting here in TX... - page 2

Anyone who has read my recent posts knows that I am very frustrated with the lack of jobs, due to the SURPLUS of nurses in the panhandle. Well get this... I got a card in the mail from a local... Read More

  1. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from mtnmom
    wow....wish someone would offer to pay for me to get my Masters...I am working full time, struggling to get an employer to work with my school schedule and struggling to pay my way through school, support a family and make ends meet all at the same time. And did I mention doing this with all the projects, papers, reading, etc required in a Masters program? And dealing with a teenage and a preteen daughter? I would go for it if it were available to me!!!

    If it were me, I would go for it in a heartbeat. But everyone's situation is different.
    Yea no LIE. I would take FULL advantage, if I lived there.

    And then I would RELOCATE to a place where that MASTERS could be put to good use! I agree w/the "glass half empty/full" post....how you see it really affects what you do next. I would leave the TX panhandle in a heartbeat to find better opportunities, if need be. Been there------living in OK I have a pretty good familiarity w/the Tex Panhandle and how it is-----you are right. The area is depressed in a lot of ways.

    But you know, Sometimes, we have to make our own opportunities. I would get that education, opening up some more doors for myself....and then MOVE ON to where it worked best for me.

    Hell, I wish I could see a program like that come HERE. I would love to get my MSN and have someone else foot that bill!
  2. by   Lisa CCU RN
    I sure hope Hilary runs for President.
  3. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Maybe (and you know I am not a big Bush fan, neither Prez or Gov) but MAYBE that investment is meant to help OTHER areas by putting monies to use. Maybe they think, people might take advantage and then go use this in places where there is actually a SHORTAGE of RN's and RN instructors. That could be their thinking, you know? Texas is a big state; that much I know. Is it this hard to find a job in the WHOLE state, or mainly the Panhandle region? Just wondering, playing a bit of Devil's Advocate here.

    Still confused why the OP sees this as so bad. It could be a sweet deal for both "ends" if you will. For nurses wanting to advance their education/people wish to enter nursing AND the public, who will need nurses increasingly desperately in the next 20-30 years. I think it's a good deal, the more i think about it.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Nov 17, '05
  4. by   FirstYear2005
    where are you at where you can't find a job in t x ??
  5. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from steelcityrn
    When I Went To School We Started With 55 And Graduated 11. They Need To Screen Canidates Well Or The Tax Payers Will Be The Losers.
    Well at the Master's degree level, anyhow, this should not be a big problem. And those who wash out----let em pay back the money they used up, then. It could work.
  6. by   sunnyjohn
    Quote from CRNASOMEDAY25
    I sure hope Hilary runs for President.
    hehehe....

    I'd prefer Joe Biden, Chuck Hagel, Barack Obama, John McCain or Marcy Kaptur.

    Anyhoo, does anyone have a link for this program? I could use all the scholarship money I can get.

    I may have to break out the tin kettle/bell and stand in front of the Walmart next to the Salvation Army people this holiday for tuition money!

    "HELP SUPPORT THE FUTURE OF WORLD HEALTHCARE!"
  7. by   Kelly_the_Great
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Texas is a big state; that much I know. Is it this hard to find a job in the WHOLE state, or mainly the Panhandle region? Just wondering, playing a bit of Devil's Advocate here.
    Hey BluE,

    I'm in East Texas and let me tell you there definetely is not a surplus of nurses here!

    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Still confused why the OP sees this as so bad. It could be a sweet deal for both "ends" if you will. For nurses wanting to advance their education/people wish to enter nursing AND the public, who will need nurses increasingly desperately in the next 20-30 years. I think it's a good deal, the more i think about it.
    Me too! And with this you'll have the tools to find employment in other fields of nursing.
  8. by   Kelly_the_Great
    Quote from Hellllllo Nurse
    No I don't sorry. You might find info pn it if you look at The Dept of Labor website.
    What's the name of the university where you attended this seminar and I'll contact them to see what information they have.

    I for one, am VERY interested.

    Thanks for the info., Hellllllo Nurse.
  9. by   nurse4theplanet
    Anyone who has read my recent posts knows that I am very frustrated with the lack of jobs, due to the SURPLUS of nurses in the panhandle....
    this is strange to me because we have such a shortage in my Metro area that the nurse recruiters salivate over the students. Is the overload in only certain areas? Here it is hard to get on in OB/PEDs, facilities like LeBohneur and ST. Jude, because that is where everyone wants to work. But in critical care/med-surg/public nursing areas...well these are WAY understaffed.
    Each student must sign an agreement stating they will pursue employment as a nursing educator in the State of Texas for 3 years after graduating....

    ... The Nursing program director said that nurses who graduate from the program may be required to leave the area to become nurse educators in other parts of Texas, as they do not anticipate that there will be enough educator jobs for all the grads.
    I definitely see your point here. The students will be committing themselves to work AS A NURSE EDUCATOR for three years before they are allowed to practice in another state. Since, there are a shortage of NURSE EDUCATOR positions this will pose a problem. I recently discovered that my State (MS) also provides money (not as good as this program) for ADNs and BSNs to get their Masters as an educator and our committment is two years in this State. However, when you do a search for jobs...almost zilch available
    Several hundred nurses attended the seminar. The talk among the nurses was about how there are already no jobs in the area, due to too many nurses, now the college is going to expand so there will be even more nurses here, when there are already too many.
    Several nurses were saying how they had been trying to get in to the local hospitals, but could not get hired...

    Other nurses spoke about how they had to commute 100 or more miles to other towns to work, since there are no jobs here.

    Part of the application requirements for the grants require that applicants submit 2 letters from supervisors. Several nurses spoke up saying "I'm not employed; I can't find a job. Can I submit a letter from a former supervisor?"

    Others who did have jobs were talking about how they were only getting 20-30 hrs of work a week, as all the local hospitals and nursing homes have too many nurses on staff...
    You must live in a very desireable area. After working my butt off in college for my nursing degree, I would move to Timbuktoo to practice! I wouldn't sit around complaining or waiting for an opening. The world is a large place. And you don't *have* to be a staff nurse at a hospital either... (home health/agency/public health/even pharm. sales rep if you have a 4yr degree)
    Only 16 colleges/universities in the nation will get grants in this program. And they picked the nurse-overloaded panhandle as one of the 16 locations?

    2 million of our tax dollars are going to be used to expand nursing programs and create more nursing instructors and new grads in an area that is saturated with nurses.
    they probably chose your area based on the track record and reputation of the University. Could you please provide the name?
  10. by   VickyRN
    We SURE could use some of that money in Eastern or Western areas of North Carolina, where the shortage of nurse educators is becoming desperate...
  11. by   Stitchie
    Quote from CRNASOMEDAY25
    I sure hope Hilary runs for President.
    I wouldn't mind Hillary running for prez. I'd love to see Gen Wesley Clark on the ticket too. Barack Obama is a fine choice for president also but he needs about 10 years of experience before he's ready for presidential consideration, IMO,

    Here in Il, my ADN program is in desperate need of educators. I'd love to teach, too, if I could find someone to help with the master's program tuition fees. There's no way I'd move to TX, even with the 'invigorating' weather we enjoy in Chicago (it's 25 degrees right now ... )
  12. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Yea no LIE. I would take FULL advantage, if I lived there.

    And then I would RELOCATE to a place where that MASTERS could be put to good use! I agree w/the "glass half empty/full" post....how you see it really affects what you do next. I would leave the TX panhandle in a heartbeat to find better opportunities, if need be. Been there------living in OK I have a pretty good familiarity w/the Tex Panhandle and how it is-----you are right. The area is depressed in a lot of ways.

    But you know, Sometimes, we have to make our own opportunities. I would get that education, opening up some more doors for myself....and then MOVE ON to where it worked best for me.

    Hell, I wish I could see a program like that come HERE. I would love to get my MSN and have someone else foot that bill!
    I would love to leave Texas. Dh's job is here and he has been looking elsewhere for a couple of years. We both want to leave. The program requires that graduates work in TX for 3 years.

    The program is a good idea, just that the location for it is a poor choice.

    One poster said they'd better screen the applicants carefully, or risk wasting tax-payer monies due to failure rates. They really don't have time for careful screening. they just found out they got the grant on Oct 16, just announced it to the public on Nov 15, and must have all applicants chosen by Nov 29.

    I was interested, but each semester requires students to take 18 credit hours during regular semesters and 9 during the summer semesters.
    My math skills are very poor, and I personally do not feel I would be successful taking college algebra and statistics within a 17 credit hour load.

    As I said, the program is a good idea- the location is bad.
    It will only exacerbate the nursing surplus and lack of jobs in this area.
  13. by   gauge14iv
    I doubt Bush actually chose the schools, or designed the program but you can blame him if it makes you feel better

    :chuckle

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