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- Aug 7, '12 by kcmylornWhen I worked night shift- the night shift was full of us young moms, that's exactly why we worked nights- to be there for the kids during the days. Yeah, we were tired and dragged our butts to the P/T conf, school functions and sporting events.
I remember clapping at Saturday morning soccer games in my sleep. Thank god for those folding chairs with cup holes (coffee), a nice warm blanket and sunglasses( to hide your actually sleeping and not watching the game.) I learned not to ask "Who won"!!
I remember snoring( loudly) in the movie theater during "Lord of the Rings" and my daughter elbowing me.
I remember having 2 in diapers running around and trying to sleep on the sofa to do the next 12 hr shift. Hubby( now ex-hubby) wouldn't watch the kids so I could sleep for work.
I also remember being so tired and it taking all my days off before i was awake again, only to have to start the work week all over again.
It's a small price you pay for being a working mom. It just became a fact of life that we had to accept. Keep the job, keep the pay vs be home , get sleep and no paycheck. You pick your battles. Ours back then was we needed our paychecks. Life/working/raising kids was no cake walk for us either. We learned to accept the good with the bad- the pluses with the negatives. We realized we had to make sacrifices and did them the best we could.
- Aug 7, '12 by hiddencatRNQuote from ruby veei'm trying to imagine my unit keeping something like so-and-so is trying to move to days/nights/swing shift/weekends quiet. or even so-and-so themselves not talking about it.that she knows of. the manager doesn't always share the list.
to the op, i would start looking around. looking for other opportunities doesn't mean you have to quit your job, but it means you might have options and possibilities to decide from. maybe the situation will change at your current job, but in the meantime, i wouldn't count on day shift there.
- Aug 7, '12 by K+MgSO4AS a manager I have have had people come to me with requests that they do not want to share with their colleagues until everything is signed and delivered. these could be the same people that tell every other thing to their workmates but they may not want it discussed or known. You NM may have requests like that. also she may need extra charges. It can often be near impossible for a charge nurse to call in sick when they know that noone wants to act as charge. She also may be "bottom heavy" and have too many junior people already on days and want someone with more experience.
- Aug 7, '12 by sauconyrunnerQuote from RNCCRN9706YOu might not find a new job, but there is no problem in LOOKING. While someone might be thankful for a nights position, it is not for everyone.In this economy, I think you'd be silly to look for a new job. They are hard to come by from what I hear. I'm sure there's someone else who would be THANKFUL for your night position.
I would look around and see if you can find something on days that you might like to do, if not, hang in there.
- Aug 7, '12 by jadelpnYou mentioned that the new night nurse has not started orientation to the floor yet. It may be one of the reasons for the delay. I would make an appointment to meet with your manager right after your shift, or at a time when you are off, and really get some good feedback. If you specifically say that you have been with them for "X" amount of time, that you put your time into nights, that you need to switch to days due to family responsibilities. Should you apply for the open position through HR to expidite the process--, that you understand that there's a delay, is there a timeline? When could you expect to transition, providing that you be considered for a day position? Why or why not? That perhaps once you are in a day positon for some time, you may consider a day charge position. Write down whatever questions you may have, and I would really sit down 1:1 and ask all of these questions. If she says to you that you are a strong night nurse, she wants you to be night charge, then I would say that although you really love the facility, it is not your goal to remain on the night shift. You need to know the process of transitioning to days. If she says that currently you are not being considered for days, even if you were to apply through HR, then at least you will know and can decide how you would like to proceed with that information. And that may be that you apply and get a day position on another floor. Or that you decide to go PRN (and I am not exactly sure I would play that card quite yet, see what she has to say 1:1 with specific questions that will get concrete answers). And I would even say that you are confused by the process, that you are attempting to do what it best for you and your family, and that night shift is becoming non-compatible with those things. I would at least look at what is out there for day shifts, but unless it is PRN, not sure if there is much of much. However, another choice would be school nursing or MD office--something that is all days all the time, until the kids are older.
Let us know how it goes!
- Aug 7, '12 by Esme12Quote from DeLana_RNYes .......but that was a WAY DIFFERENT economic time.....sighI know, that's why I hesitate. There have been a lot of changes, the manager is fairly new to this position (not new to management though). The previous manager did hire even fairly inexperienced nurses directly to days for staff; at the time there were plenty of charge nurses. Now there are several openings on days, and now she tells me she needs to hire FT charge nurses. She did, however, hire PRN staff nurses. So maybe I need to inquire about changing to PRN status?
Why do we all have to play games... I don't like or want to.
Has anyone ever had to give an ultimatum of sorts and it come out "right"?
- Aug 7, '12 by DeLana_RNJust to clarify, I don't work in a hospital, it's a small inpatient facility with no other unit to transfer to. Because there are so few nurses, I know them quite well and would be very surprised if any other night nurse wanted days; besides, in previous months there was more than one opportunity to transfer to days, which they could have taken advantage of. I'm reasonably certain I'm the only one.
But I agree with pp, I do need to make an appointment to have a face to face meeting with the manager, not when I'm tired and worn out after working night(s), but during the day when I'm rested and the kids are back in school (school starts soon). I don't think orienting to night charge would help me much to prepare for the day charge position, and because we're so severely short-staffed right now, I'm afraid I would get a "sink or swim" orientation and don't want any part of that.
I don't believe in playing games, and I think our facility has great potential, the new hires have much better attitudes then some of those who left. I have patience (to a point), and don't want to give ultimatums. Pp is correct, nurses' options just a few years ago were much better than today.
Again, thanks so much everyone for the input! I'll keep you posted.
- Aug 7, '12 by nursewrechedQuote from hiddencatRNEntirely possible. In my unit, the manager has a list of people who want to go to days. No one knows who is on the list, people tell the manager directly to put their names on it. Generally, the manager will tell you how many people are ahead of you at the time you sign up.I'm trying to imagine my unit keeping something like so-and-so is trying to move to days/nights/swing shift/weekends quiet. Or even so-and-so themselves not talking about it.
That being said, it sounds to me as if a day shift is not coming your way at that facility in the near future. It certainly never hurts to look elsewhere.